Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3 *PART 2*

[Pinggolfer]

The most corrupting force known to mankind is the power we willingly grant to those people we naively convince ourselves have our best interests in mind. Trust not the rhetoric.



Except for ProVape. They actually DO have our best interests... [emoji41]

MonsterKenny for President and vape 360 for VP. Maybe we can go back to Made in the USA.

 

[rbrylawski]

Dare I speak up on the topic? I have a very different view of the subject, and can see both sides points. For me, here's what it boils down to. The word "marriage" has been defined in religious circles, translated from ancient scriptures varying from 800-3000+ years, depending on what you read. Most people would agree it's a religious word, and has specific meaning - between a man and a woman. The bible even calls gay people an abomination (if memory serves from my early years in Catholic school).

My personal views are pro-choice. Legally speaking, everyone should be able to share the same benefits, whether straight or gay. However, back to the religious people. The word "marriage" is sacred, so you might be able to sympathize that putting the words "gay" and "marriage" together is insulting to the very origins of the religious term. With that, I cannot disagree. So what's the answer? Some states are calling it a "union" rather than "marriage". This makes more sense, considering "union" can apply to a heterosexual couple as well - it's a legal term, and properly used with a homosexual couple IMHO. Since "marriage" is a religious term, and "union" a legal term, I have to take the side of religion when it comes to terminology.

It's all about respect, and I have respect for both sides. I respect the religious with their sacred word, but I also respect the homosexual couples who deserve equality. Not looking for a debate - this is one of those topics that should never be brought up in an open forum as it almost always leads to intervention - just stating my opinion. Terminology aside, all that matters is two people are happy together. It's a shame how homosexual people have been treated historically, but then again, humanity has a history of mistreating its fellow man.

Congrats again to Rod & Charlie.

Thanks John. Of course you can speak on the topic. Even if I don't completely agree with some of what you've written!

Marriage is not a religious word. In fact the word marriage derives from Middle English mariage, which first appears in 1250–1300 CE. This in turn is derived from Old French marier (to marry) and ultimately Latin marītāre meaning to provide with a husband or wife and marītāri meaning to get married.

Many people may be very surprised to know that in the 1100's, Catholic Priests routinely married same sex couples. It wasn't until the age of the Puritans it became unacceptable.

And I've never found the reference to gay people are an abomination in the Bible, but that too is subjective. After all, the Bible was not written by God, it was written by men, who believed they were interpreting what God was saying and in reality telling stories that had been passed down to preserve them.

To call what Charlie and I have a "union" as opposed to a "marriage" is insulting. It implies we are less than straight people and that is something I would fight wholeheartedly. Yes I would!

Thanks again John. I do appreciate the time and thought you put into your post. Yes I do.

 

[rbrylawski]

Fascinating stuff. I didn't know about Senator Hunt; sadly, my government never ceases to amaze me.

You and Charlie are almost as cute as Eri and Emi. Almost.

Thanks my dear, but I must disagree on that. Eri and Emi are 1,000,000,000,000,000 times cuter than either me or Charlie! Oh yes they are!!

 

[rbrylawski]

why carry 2 Provaris? ... if I'm going to carry an extra kayfun and spare battery ... might as well carry them attached to a spare Provari.

I only carry one Provari, but do carry extra tops and batteries with me.....

 

[AstroTurf]

I only carry one Provari, but do carry extra tops and batteries with me.....

Sounds like it's time for a backup or 10...

LOLz, Jim

 

[HBcorpse]

MonsterKenny for President and Vape 360 for VP. Maybe we can go back to Made in the USA.

It's actually Vape360 for president and MonsterKenny for VP...and Provape has a CS Rep named Blake that needs to take over all those powerful government Secretary of -Insert department- positions. He could do a way better job at all those posts, by himself!
Except for being Secretary of The Insert Department...cuz that's not a real thing, and the title makes my inner child giggle with immature laughter.
Point is...if this country operated like Provape...well, I'm sure we'd be in a much better place! Yes I am!

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

They've come out with a BVC, which is a single coil using Japanese cotton.

The original BVC used a mix of ceramic and cotton for wicking.

I assume the BDC coils are still available as well.

Cisco coils are a single horizantal coil with a small flavor wick. They are re-usable. Made in the USA by Avid Vaper. They are expensive but last a long time with proper care.

They use an Aspire coil housing and an in-house coil.

How much time would a Cisco coil last approximately?

I've always heard about Cisco coils and Cisco bridgeless atomizers and heard the best about them, and I've read comments stating that they last "forever" but I be never had a chance to try one and would like a more detailed overview and information.

 

[rbrylawski]

Sounds like it's time for a backup or 10...

LOLz, Jim

I do have me a P2.5 backup. But it stays in it's box, in my vape drawer as the P3 is so freaking reliable, I don't seem to need to bring it's brother out to play. No I don't!

 

[rbrylawski]

Sorry, but I think this is funny......

Company Creates the World’s First Vaping Mobile Phone |

 

[DPLongo22]

I routinely walk around the house with two Provi's in hand. Two different juices, of course (duh!).

Be prepared.

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Thanks John. Of course you can speak on the topic. Even if I don't completely agree with some of what you've written!

Marriage is not a religious word. In fact the word marriage derives from Middle English mariage, which first appears in 1250–1300 CE. This in turn is derived from Old French marier (to marry) and ultimately Latin marītāre meaning to provide with a husband or wife and marītāri meaning to get married.

Many people may be very surprised to know that in the 1100's, Catholic Priests routinely married same sex couples. It wasn't until the age of the Puritans it became unacceptable.

And I've never found the reference to gay people are an abomination in the Bible, but that too is subjective. After all, the Bible was not written by God, it was written by men, who believed they were interpreting what God was saying and in reality telling stories that had been passed down to preserve them.

To call what Charlie and I have a "union" as opposed to a "marriage" is insulting. It implies we are less than straight people and that is something I would fight wholeheartedly. Yes I would!

Thanks again John. I do appreciate the time and thought you put into your post. Yes I do.

This is quite an extensive topic and sure to cause lots of debate, as religion and politics always do.

From my POV, considering I was homophobic when younger since I was "bullied" and also liked by gay guys, I think it's ok for gay people to marry and have their lives as anybody else. We're all humans and we're all equal.

I was instructed in the catholic religion, and for quite a long time I thought of homosexuality as something unnatural and obscene, taking into account reproduction ONLY. Today I understand more, and support equality for all. There's homosexual behaviors in nature and it even helps to preserve some species (in some flies, at least.)

Also I don't consider myself catholic anymore… I believe in a god, but not in the biblical sense at all, as you said the bible was written by humans and there's explanations for pretty much everything in there. And hoping not to offend anyone or their beliefs, but to me the bible is just like a fairytale made very simple so that the earlier people could understand the majesty of everything around us… but it's very outdated by now and the mindset of people doesn't need simplifications anymore and we can grasp more about the world and everything around us. Again, I believe in God, but just not like a superhuman of sorts, not a human-like being, but as energy, as the cause of everything and what makes everything connect and be the same. Hope I made sense.

So in a brief statement, I'm all in for supporting marriage equality.

 

[rbrylawski]

This is quite an extensive topic and sure to cause lots of debate, as religion and politics always do.

From my POV, considering I was homophobic when younger since I was "bullied" and also liked by gay guys, I think it's ok for gay people to marry and have their lives as anybody else. We're all humans and we're all equal.

I was instructed in the catholic religion, and for quite a long time I thought of homosexuality as something unnatural and obscene, taking into account reproduction ONLY. Today I understand more, and support equality for all. There's homosexual behaviors in nature and it even helps to preserve some species (in some flies, at least.)

Also I don't consider myself catholic anymore… I believe in a god, but not in the biblical sense at all, as you said the bible was written by humans and there's explanations for pretty much everything in there. And hoping not to offend anyone or their beliefs, but to me the bible is just like a fairytale made very simple so that the earlier people could understand the majesty of everything around us… but it's very outdated by now and the mindset of people doesn't need simplifications anymore and we can grasp more about the world and everything around us. Again, I believe in God, but just not like a superhuman of sorts, not a human-like being, but as energy, as the cause of everything and what makes everything connect and be the same. Hope I made sense.

So in a brief statement, I'm all in for supporting marriage equality.

This post made TOTAL sense. Yes it did! Thanks!

 

[DPLongo22]

The only time I ever care about who is (a) getting married ("unionized", whateves), or (b) having "physical relations"* is if I'm involved. Outside of that, and of the obvious (kids, dogs, martians, etc.), live & let live.

* THANK YOU for that term, Bill Clinton!

 

[Bronze]

The only time I ever care about who is (a) getting married ("unionized", whateves), or (b) having "physical relations"* is if I'm involved. Outside of that, and of the obvious (kids, dogs, martians, etc.), live & let live.

* THANK YOU for that term, Bill Clinton!

My stance exactly. What others do is not my business nor am I any more interested in what they do behind closed doors than they are in what I do behind mine. There are reasons why there are doors on bedrooms (and bathrooms too for that matter).

 

[DPLongo22]

There are reasons why there are doors on bedrooms (and bathrooms too for that matter).

Excellent point, Bronze, and of much greater concern (at least to me). Here's to bathroom doors!

 

[Bronze]

Excellent point, Bronze, and of much greater concern (at least to me). Here's to bathroom doors!

I remember going to undergrad school in downtown Chicago. I'd take the train to Union Station downtown. I loathed the thought of having to go to the bathroom there. A long, narrow row of stalls, probably a hundred stalls...none had doors on them. None! Can you imagine walking down this long row looking for an open stall? I'll stop there as I'm sure this is not a very good visual as is.

Even though we all do the same thing, nonetheless there are just some things that need to remain private.

 

[rbrylawski]

Excellent point, Bronze, and of much greater concern (at least to me). Here's to bathroom doors!

Here here! And what's with people not using locks on bathroom doors in public places? Huh? What? I knock on bathroom doors, then twist the knob or handle and there have been so many times, I've opened the door to see someone doing their business and then to hear them say "hey someone's in here" after I open the door. To which I reply, "that's what locks on the door were invented for!" I mean jeesh, you want some privacy? Lock the fricken door. Yes, do that!

 

[Bronze]

Here here! And what's with people not using locks on bathroom doors in public places? Huh? What? I knock on bathroom doors, then twist the knob or handle and there have been so many times, I've opened the door to see someone doing their business and then to hear them say "hey someone's in here" after I open the door. To which I reply, "that's what locks on the door were invented for!" I mean jeesh, you want some privacy? Lock the fricken door. Yes, do that!

And spare others the eyeful of nastiness not to mention the other human senses that are affected.

 

[rbrylawski]

I remember going to undergrad school in downtown Chicago. I'd take the train to Union Station downtown. I loathed the thought of having to go to the bathroom there. A long, narrow row of stalls, probably a hundred stalls...none had doors on them. None! Can you imagine walking down this long row looking for an open stall? I'll stop there as I'm sure this is not a very good visual as is.

Even though we all do the same thing, nonetheless there are just some things that need to remain private.

Been there done that. HATE IT! I'm a very private person and can't stand using public restrooms, and simply couldn't use one without a door on the stall. No I simply could not!

 

[WillyZee]

Whenever I am in a restroom and someone knocks ... I always reply with ... come on in.

Nobody ever does.


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