Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3 *PART 2*

[The Ocelot]

This one is very obscure and you won't find it on youtube due to a music copyright dispute. I think it's "fair use," but apparently the record company feels differently. It's "Misheard Lyrics" of a song by L'Arc~en~ciel, a very popular Japanese band. They are singing in Japanese, of course, but with a bit of visual prompting it truly shines in English. I really wish I could embed it.

ClipMoon - New World Misheard Lyrics Video

 

[pyroav8er]

There was an issue a while back concerning the stud on the original sub tank beauty ring being too long on some and over compressing the o ring on the center pin of the p3. The pin wouldn't come back out and make contact with other tanks. I was able to gently lift mine, others have done so also. Hope that helps

 

[rbrylawski]

Morning P3 Family........These are cute.

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[Peter_C]

An Ant Circle J&*%!?

Is that like a 'crop-circle', but just inside?

 

[Peter_C]

Well be that way. Sir Rod is so disappointed. Yes he is! LOL

I must also confess, I have never bought/tried No Ox. I clean everything with rubbing alcohol 91%, and am pleased (so far)...

 

[rbrylawski]

I must also confess, I have never bought/tried No Ox. I clean everything with rubbing alcohol 91%, and am pleased (so far)...

Sigh..........

 

[Katdarling]

We could go to the steakhouse!!! It's open Wednesday - Sunday. They have the most decadent appetizer there I have ever tried. It has a silly name, "Pork Belly Lollipops," but they are like bacon that melts in your mouth. The picture is too large to post: http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/1y0E-tk7_iCTOymYGGmyxQ/o.jpg

Lollipops!!!!!! Ok, those are just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too tempting! Let's go.

At 1:47
Look at Papa hold...her what???

Hahahhaahhahahaaaaaaaaaa! Who knew The Pajama Game was NSFW.

I have the stuff REO sells. Its probably No ALox.
But - I feel no need for No Ox. None whatsoever. Maybe it's just me..

R

It's not just you, and I had a feeling, Mr. DPL would chime in his thoughts. I think the Ti (particularly) needs no thread lotion. Sorry Eyebrow! Really I am.

I'm vaping my P3s and learning stuff that I didn't know that I wanted to know.

Go fullscreen
Choose HD
Let it play next, next, next
You're welcome

It's an oldie, but a goodie. I can't remember how many years ago I first saw it, but it still makes me laugh. Just like the Russian guy over-dub - and this one:

Made my day!! Marvelous. Pink fairy armadillo, sniffing its derriere. Yep.

 

[Peter_C]

Sigh..........

Confession is good for the soul, I feel oddly light now, yes I do~!

 

[Vape360]

I posted about this once already over in the Saloon but that wasn't enough to stress how I feel about this
Provape still selling Efest batteries just blows me away
For a company like Provape that puts safety first to sale a product from a company like Efest is a joke to me.
You might as well make the P3 200 watt and put a sticker on it saying "Good Luck"
This is a Quote from Baditude's blog,
Dampfakkus is an independent testing facility in Germany which first exposed that Efest is using cells from other manufacturers, rebranding them, and then advertising over-rated specifications as a marketing ploy for better sales of their batteries.
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

Purple efest 18650 battery warning | E-Cigarette Forum

Hi FC68,

I can tell you that before we sell a battery, we put it through hundreds of hours of testing to qualify that cell. It's not like we just randomly select a battery, look at the label, agree with what is printed on the wrap and toss it on the website.

If we made a 200 watt device we would not be recommending that battery, but for our current application, this cell is within spec for what our devices demand from it.

There are only a handful of battery manufacturer's and many resellers rebrand cells saying it's their own, this is pretty common.

While I agree with you that over inflating specs on the label is not the right thing to do, the proof for us is in the testing and we put these batteries though more tests than most vendors do.

This family of cells regardless of which major manufacturer made them, performed very well in our tests. In many cases, the E-fest outperformed the AW batteries, which are also a rewrapped cell made by one of the few mentioned manufacturer's and might even come from the same one.

 

[rbrylawski]

Confession is good for the soul, I feel oddly light now, yes I do~!

Depends on who's soul! LOL

Sir Rod, Master of Lube has failed in his mission to educate all ye on the virtues of proper lube-otimy. Yes he has.

 

[Bronze]

Hi FC68,

I can tell you that before we sell a battery, we put it through hundreds of hours of testing to qualify that cell. It's not like we just randomly select a battery, look at the label, agree with what is printed on the wrap and toss it on the website.

If we made a 200 watt device we would not be recommending that battery, but for our current application, this cell is within spec for what our devices demand from it.

There are only a handful of battery manufacturer's and many resellers rebrand cells saying it's their own, this is pretty common.

While I agree with you that over inflating specs on the label is not the right thing to do, the proof for us is in the testing and we put these batteries though more tests than most vendors do.

This family of cells regardless of which major manufacturer made them, performed very well in our tests. In many cases, the E-fest outperformed the AW batteries, which are also a rewrapped cell made by one of the few mentioned manufacturer's and might even come from the same one.

Wish I could like this post more than once. I'm not trying to put down Baditude or anyone else but I see more misinformation being tossed about. I know Bad was just linking us so I'm not pointing the finger at him (in fact I appreciate his efforts). But I use a Provari and all that matters is how a battery performs in a Provari. I know Provape does not cut corners (and is why we pay $250 for these things) so I trust when they recommend a battery that they have done their homework. 360's post confirms this.

 

[rbrylawski]

Wish I could like this post more than once. I'm not trying to put down Baditude or anyone else but I see more misinformation being tossed about. I know Bad was just linking us so I'm not pointing the finger at him (in fact I appreciate his efforts). But I use a Provari and all that matters is how a battery performs in a Provari. I know Provape does not cut corners (and is why we pay $250 for these things) so I trust when they recommend a battery that they have done their homework. 360's post confirms this.

+1+1+1. I couldn't agree more with this! No I couldn't!

 

[FringeChief68]

Hi FC68,

I can tell you that before we sell a battery, we put it through hundreds of hours of testing to qualify that cell. It's not like we just randomly select a battery, look at the label, agree with what is printed on the wrap and toss it on the website.

If we made a 200 watt device we would not be recommending that battery, but for our current application, this cell is within spec for what our devices demand from it.

There are only a handful of battery manufacturer's and many resellers rebrand cells saying it's their own, this is pretty common.

While I agree with you that over inflating specs on the label is not the right thing to do, the proof for us is in the testing and we put these batteries though more tests than most vendors do.

This family of cells regardless of which major manufacturer made them, performed very well in our tests. In many cases, the E-fest outperformed the AW batteries, which are also a rewrapped cell made by one of the few mentioned manufacturer's and might even come from the same one.

The overrated specs is dangerous not only to the individual using them but to an young industry that has people trying to use any ammo at all to hurt it.
And this is my point just like Bronze said,

I trust when they recommend a battery

People trust Provape and them batteries might as well have the name Provape on them.
And even if they are safe to use in the Provape products what happens if one of Provape's costumers uses these batteries in another device because the battery label says it can handle it,
and thinks Provape sales them so the Label must be right?
I know other devices are not Provape's problem but it won't be the device that vents it will be the Battery that they trusted Provape to sell them

 

[Bronze]

BTW, it's not in Provape's interest to offer us crap. The last thing they need is batteries causing trouble with their products. Many manufacturers are not willing to spend money testing batteries and is one reason why they sell their products at a lower price. We are paying a premium price for a Provari so we can expect a premium product. If we get something less than premium Provape can kiss their business goodbye. And based on my many years in business I'm quite certain know one knows that better than Provape. So there simply is no motivation for them to knowingly recommend batteries that are crap. Do the math...a battery costs $12. A Provari costs $250. Why risk a business on a $12 battery?

 

[FringeChief68]

Maybe put a warning that the Battery Specs may be inflated

 

[Bronze]

The overrated specs is dangerous not only to the individual using them but to an young industry that has people trying to use any ammo at all to hurt it.
And this is my point just like Bronze said,

People trust Provape and them batteries might as well have the name Provape on them.
And even if they are safe to use in the Provape products what happens if one of Provape's costumers uses these batteries in another device because the battery label says it can handle it,
and thinks Provape sales them so the Label must be right?
I know other devices are not Provape's problem but it won't be the device that vents it will be the Battery that they trusted Provape to sell them

Life is risky. I don't know what to say. I buy a car to drive on the streets. If I choose to drive it on sidewalks then its on me. Your point is well taken but there comes a time when individuals need to assume responsibility. If we dummy proof everything to the maximum then there wouldn't be much point in living.

 

[FringeChief68]

Life is risky. I don't know what to say. I buy a car to drive on the streets. If I choose to drive it on sidewalks then its on me. Your point is well taken but there comes a time when individuals need to assume responsibility. If we dummy proof everything to the maximum then there wouldn't be much point in living.

So overrating, inflating, or just down right lying about the specs of a product is on the individual to not be a dummy about it?

 

[Bronze]

So overrating, inflating, or just down right lying about the specs of a product is on the individual to not be a dummy about it?

I've been around too long to know that manufacturers lie about their products and it isn't just batteries. Watch any advertisement of just about any product and you know they are fluffing their specs. I'm skeptical about all advertised specifications on all products. If I'm buying a battery for my provari I am going with Provape's recommendation and that's all I'm using the battery for. Should efest sell what they advertise? Absolutely! And it's good people hold their feet to the fire. But to lambaste Provape for this is out of bounds as far as I'm concerned and how I read your original post. What's next, holding Provape responsible for making sure the solder they use isn't made in a country that has no child labor laws? Provape tested the efest battery for their product and approved it. That's good enough for me. Anything beyond this and you enter the world of buyer beware....just like any other product.

 

[Bronze]

I've been around too long to know that manufacturers lie about their products and it isn't just batteries. Watch any advertisement of just about any product and you know they are fluffing their specs. I'm skeptical about all advertised specifications on all products. If I'm buying a battery for my provari I am going with Provape's recommendation and that's all I'm using the battery for. Should efest sell what they advertise? Absolutely! And it's good people hold their feet to the fire. But to lambaste Provape for this is out of bounds as far as I'm concerned and how I read your original post. What's next, holding Provape responsible for making sure the solder they use isn't made in a country that has no child labor laws? Provape tested the efest battery for their product and approved it. That's good enough for me. Anything beyond this and you enter the world of buyer beware....just like any other product.

BTW, I use AW batteries. Always have and stayed with AW because Provape recommends them for their provaris. I had a gal ask me which battery to use for her Vapor Flask. I told her to check with the manufacturer. She did and it was a battery I would never have guessed.

 

[FringeChief68]

I've been around too long to know that manufacturers lie about their products and it isn't just batteries. Watch any advertisement of just about any product and you know they are fluffing their specs. I'm skeptical about all advertised specifications on all products. If I'm buying a battery for my provari I am going with Provape's recommendation and that's all I'm using the battery for. Should efest sell what they advertise? Absolutely! And it's good people hold their feet to the fire. But to lambaste Provape for this is out of bounds as far as I'm concerned and how I read your original post. What's next, holding Provape responsible for making sure the solder they use isn't made in a country that has no child labor laws? Provape tested the efest battery for their product and approved it. That's good enough for me. Anything beyond this and you enter the world of buyer beware....just like any other product.

I wasn't trying to lambaste Provape at all, part of the reason this thread is set up is so Provape can listen to what their customers have to say, good or bad.
Plus I was leaning more towards lambasting Efest.
Vape360 said they were already aware of my issues with Efest and that's a good start.
Pressure from companies like Provape on Efest can maybe get them to change their labeling to be more accurate on the true specs of their batteries.