Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[Snapdragon]

I think its great that ProVape wants to keep their retailers happy. What I don't like is when it's at the expense of many, many more customers.

ProVape would likely make their retailers very happy if they gave them a great wholesale price - and make their online customers very happy by releasing all the P3s at the same time. JMO.

 

[dhaiken]

Whirlpool sucks.....

Doh! Now you've done it.

 

[dhaiken]

The fact that it will only be available in Satin SS for the initial release means I will have to buy at least two.
A Satin SS for instant gratification and a Zenkote Gun Metal when available.
That is not the inability to produce multiple colors; that is brilliant marketing!

 

[HBcorpse]

I think its great that ProVape wants to keep their retailers happy. What I don't like is when it's at the expense of many, many more customers.

ProVape would likely make their retailers very happy if they gave them a great wholesale price - and make their online customers very happy by releasing all the P3s at the same time. JMO.

Tell me...
How is Provape costing any customers any money? What great expense are these "many, many more" customers paying?
Having to wait a little bit longer, until the P3 is sold on Provape's website? Haven't we ALL waited years? And people are getting a mental wedgie over an extra (possible) few weeks? A month or so at most?
If that's the only extra expense I'm paying, because I can only buy from Provape's website, then SIGN ME UP!

I'm not trying to be a jerk, or an a--, and perhaps I'm coming off that way...but it just doesn't make sense to me.
It's already been said, and I've agreed, that everyone has their right to say what they want, on a public forum...I just don't see why anyone would waste their time coming here just to be negative and complain about decisions made by a company, that has obviously done very well for itself...and given its track record, Provape stands to do even better for itself!

Food for thought: The P3 is not just an improved v2.5...it's the v1.0 of the next generation of Provari devices!!!!


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[ENAUD]

Provape has already been down this road before, and it is all laid out in the sticky thread from the original ProVari release. Pre orders, coupled with delays from hiccups in parts availability, ramping up production, and just getting the ball rolling created some angst amongst the eagerly awaiting lineup of customers. They had to pick a strategy to release the P3, and they did so. It's probably a lot easier to ration out what on hand inventory they have, through bulk retail orders, and also, they will get an immediate sense of how well the beta units sold themselves to a ratio of how many were sent out. I think they handled this pretty cleverly myself...an added benefit to those who must wait are that any bugs that may or may not exist, will hopefully be reported from the field from the early recipients.

 

[HBcorpse]

Provape has already been down this road before, and it is all laid out in the sticky thread from the original ProVari release. Pre orders, coupled with delays from hiccups in parts availability, ramping up production, and just getting the ball rolling created some angst amongst the eagerly awaiting lineup of customers. They had to pick a strategy to release the P3, and they did so. It's probably a lot easier to ration out what on hand inventory they have, through bulk retail orders, and also, they will get an immediate sense of how well the beta units sold themselves to a ratio of how many were sent out. I think they handled this pretty cleverly myself...an added benefit to those who must wait are that any bugs that may or may not exist, will hopefully be reported from the field from the early recipients.

^^^That...
Glad there are some people out there with something POSITIVE to say!


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[Snapdragon]

Tell me...
How is Provape costing any customers any money? What great expense are these "many, many more" customers paying?
Having to wait a little bit longer, until the P3 is sold on Provape's website? Haven't we ALL waited years? And people are getting a mental wedgie over an extra (possible) few weeks? A month or so at most?
If that's the only extra expense I'm paying, because I can only buy from Provape's website, then SIGN ME UP!

I'm not trying to be a jerk, or an a--, and perhaps I'm coming off that way...but it just doesn't make sense to me.
It's already been said, and I've agreed, that everyone has their right to say what they want, on a public forum...I just don't see why anyone would waste their time coming here just to be negative and complain about decisions made by a company, that has obviously done very well for itself...and given its track record, Provape stands to do even better for itself!Food for thought: The P3 is not just an improved v2.5...it's the v1.0 of the next generation of Provari devices!!!!
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Well, I opened my post with a compliment to ProVape, which was neither negative nor a complaint, and I never said anything about costing their customers money, so I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment (but I'm sure you're gonna clarify it for me).

I personally don't know anyone who wants to wait a moment longer than they have to to order, buy, purchase, and receive a P3, so to me, that makes you wonderfully unique.

I don't view any of my contributions to ECF as a waste of time and if you do, I hope you move quickly on to the next one that interests you. I was short and to the point and certainly not in any way repetitive. I was stating my opinion, not trying to detract from yours, that by the way, I truly appreciate you sharing so thoroughly and frequently.

My point was simply that the long awaited launch of the P3 could be a win-win instead of putting one group before another.

 

[tearose50]

The debate is always the same.

Never have I seen a Provari fan jump all over a mech mod user, or any other mod user, for why their device doesn't stack up to a Provari.
That's not to say it hasn't happened, but I've never seen it...and from what I've read on the ECF, there are a lot of people out there who haven't seen it either..

Hmm. Didn't get around much did ya? There are dozens of threads comparing the ProVari to whatever new cheap vv device that was produced, starting with the original Lava Tube. I believe the originally intended despicable name, Provarinati, arose from those threads. The term has long lost it's meaning as users of it became "lumen se totus" (however the group spells it). There are also several debates on mechs vs regulated, sub ohm builds and the like that were quite controversial with the Provarinati leading the charge. Not all have been personable in those debates.

This current "debate" is all about power with almost complete disregard for the things that have made ProVari a very very successful device and hardly a peep about some of the new features, mostly features that many have been desiring and could be quite wonderful. Like always, some have valid points from their view and others are just simply rude and/or trollish.

Are ProVari owners not as arrogant now as many have tried other devices, some darn good cheaper competition and/or some VW only devices? Probably. I'm sure just as many are just tired of fighting and simply enjoy their mod(s) of choice.

(P.S. -- I'm eager to see and use a P3. It's most certainly on my want to buy list. )

 

[rbrylawski]

You are totally right...
But I'm mainly focused on the people who are "dumping" all over Provape's business decisions...
Dumping on the device is one thing...a battle that will never end.
But dumping on Provape because they chose to keep their physical retailers happy, is just baffling to me.

Everyone has the right to say what they want, in an open forum...you're correct.

"A wise man speaks, because he has something to say...a fool speaks, because he has to say something..."


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Then what do you have to say about me? I'm buying one, but I still don't think Provape is handling the launch well. I want Provape to hear this and maybe even rethink their position on the launch.

 

[HBcorpse]

Well, I opened my post with a compliment to ProVape, which was neither negative nor a complaint, and I never said anything about costing their customers money, so I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment (but I'm sure you're gonna clarify it for me).

I personally don't know anyone who wants to wait a moment longer than they have to to order, buy, purchase, and receive a P3, so to me, that makes you wonderfully unique.

I don't view any of my contributions to ECF as a waste of time and if you do, I hope you move quickly on to the next one that interests you. I was short and to the point and certainly not in any way repetitive. I was stating my opinion, not trying to detract from yours, that by the way, I truly appreciate you sharing so thoroughly and frequently.

My point was simply that the long awaited launch of the P3 could be a win-win instead of putting one group before another.

I know...I know...I babble on and on, and repeat my points...ugh. I don't know why I do it, and I try to stop myself..but my OCD gets the best of me, and I don't edit myself down to a reasonable length of post. :sad: :shame:
^^^not being sarcastic. Promise.

I was just trying to understand what "expense" you were referring to...I didn't see how it's costing anyone, anything (literally or figuratively) for Provape to release the P3 how they want to.


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[HBcorpse]

Oh, and I didn't say you were being negative...
I was referring to the people who are negative on purpose, who just complain for the sake of complaining.


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[HBcorpse]

Hmm. Didn't get around much did ya? There are dozens of threads comparing the ProVari to whatever new cheap vv device that was produced, starting with the original Lava Tube. I believe the originally intended despicable name, Provarinati, arose from those threads. The term has long lost it's meaning as users of it became "lumen se totus" (however the group spells it). There are also several debates on mechs vs regulated, sub ohm builds and the like that were quite controversial with the Provarinati leading the charge. Not all have been personable in those debates.

This current "debate" is all about power with almost complete disregard for the things that have made ProVari a very very successful device and hardly a peep about some of the new features, mostly features that many have been desiring and could be quite wonderful. Like always, some have valid points from their view and others are just simply rude and/or trollish.

Are ProVari owners not as arrogant now as many have tried other devices, some darn good cheaper competition and/or some VW only devices? Probably. I'm sure just as many are just tired of fighting and simply enjoy their mod(s) of choice.

(P.S. -- I'm eager to see and use a P3. It's most certainly on my want to buy list. )

I said it, right in my post...

I haven't seen a Provari owner, or fan, jump all over anyone else's mod...and from what I've read, not a lot of other people have seen that either...
I also said that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. [emoji12]


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[HBcorpse]

Then what do you have to say about me? I'm buying one, but I still don't think Provape is handling the launch well. I want Provape to hear this and maybe even rethink their position on the launch.

What do I have to say about you?
Hmmm...I would say you've appeared to me, as an intelligent individual. I've seen you battle the nonsensical ramblings of a troll...(VJ)

I'm glad you're buying a P3. I'm glad you read my post(s). I'm glad you shared your thoughts. I wouldn't even have a point to make if others weren't involved in the conversation.

I do, however, think that your desire for "Provape to hear this and maybe even rethink their position on the launch" is a bit of a pipe dream...
I get it. It's your opinion, as mine is mine.

I'm not trying to be a troll, or a thread jacker, or a dream killer, etc etc...


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[HBcorpse]

Look folks, except for these last few posts, I have been nothing but a positive supporter...and helped to answer some questions for people who were curious about the P3, or Provape's release plan!

I'm not here to argue, and I FORMALLY APOLOGIZE to anyone who has felt I was trying to pick a fight. It was honestly not my intention.

I'm just trying to steer the conversation back to a positive light, and keep the information flowing. This thread really wasn't set up as a sounding board for "Who hates the P3 and why?" or "Who hates Provape's launch plan?"...

I DO feel that it is everyone's right to share how they feel in a public forum. But if you want to discuss "Provape should do this or that..." go start another thread...leave this one for people who want to find out information about the P3 and it's launch.


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[rbrylawski]

So, I got to play and vape on the P3 beta at my B&M. Somehow they didn't get the message that customers might come in and ask to try one. One of the guys who works there has had it as his personal device for a few days. But he graciously let me have it. And I have to admit I was VERY impressed. Here are my thoughts:

1. Build Quality: Just what you'd expect from a Provari. Feels great in my hands and everything screws in smoothly.

2. Menu System: I don't recall who posted they thought it was awful, but I have to say I thought quite the opposite. The guy just handed me the device and I found the system to be quite intuitive and very simple to operate. I had to slow the screen down as I wanted to become familiar with the menu options, but they're easy to figure out, without a manual. The guy who was using it had it set to VW, and I quickly changed it to VV as I wanted to use the same setting I have on my 2.5. So, it was simple to switch to VV and set it to the same setting as I was using. Next, I wanted to see what the boost is all about. I was a little confused on this option, but I think I set the boost to about a second. I thought it interesting the P3 is a 3 click on as opposed to 5 click on with the 2.5. I liked that you can leave the screen on when you vape and look at your settings real time, or you can turn the screen off completely. And I liked that you can choose from a number of colors for the button, plus there's an option to let the device rotate through the colors with each push. That's kind of gimmicky, as I don't want my button to glow pink - EVER, but someone else might like pink. LOL

3. The Vape: Typically great Provari, but that boost, man that boost. It works. It works great. The flavor and vapor on my Nautilus Aspire, running BVC coils was even better.

4. My Verdict: A great device and now I want it even more than just from what I've read. I'm not a sub-ohmer, so I don't care if it's limited to 20 watts. That's more than enough power for the way I vape and then some. SO:

COME ON PROVAPE. RELEASE THESE THINGS ALREADY!!

 

[tearose50]

I said it, right in my post...

I haven't seen a Provari owner, or fan, jump all over anyone else's mod...and from what I've read, not a lot of other people have seen that either...
I also said that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. [emoji12]


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Wow. Wasn't trying to be argumentative at all and initial comment should have communicated that. I was only pointing out that there certainly has been posts that I've seen, and lots of them. Most are now somewhat ancient history--you know, a few months ago. (and earlier).

 

[aikanae1]

So, I got to play and vape on the P3 beta at my B&M. Somehow they didn't get the message that customers might come in and ask to try one. One of the guys who works there has had it as his personal device for a few days. But he graciously let me have it. And I have to admit I was VERY impressed. Here are my thoughts:

1. Build Quality: Just what you'd expect from a Provari. Feels great in my hands and everything screws in smoothly.

2. Menu System: I don't recall who posted they thought it was awful, but I have to say I thought quite the opposite. The guy just handed me the device and I found the system to be quite intuitive and very simple to operate. I had to slow the screen down as I wanted to become familiar with the menu options, but they're easy to figure out, without a manual. The guy who was using it had it set to VW, and I quickly changed it to VV as I wanted to use the same setting I have on my 2.5. So, it was simple to switch to VV and set it to the same setting as I was using. Next, I wanted to see what the boost is all about. I was a little confused on this option, but I think I set the boost to about a second. I thought it interesting the P3 is a 3 click on as opposed to 5 click on with the 2.5. I liked that you can leave the screen on when you vape and look at your settings real time, or you can turn the screen off completely. And I liked that you can choose from a number of colors for the button, plus there's an option to let the device rotate through the colors with each push. That's kind of gimmicky, as I don't want my button to glow pink - EVER, but someone else might like pink. LOL

3. The Vape: Typically great Provari, but that boost, man that boost. It works. It works great. The flavor and vapor on my Nautilus Aspire, running BVC coils was even better.

4. My Verdict: A great device and now I want it even more than just from what I've read. I'm not a sub-ohmer, so I don't care if it's limited to 20 watts. That's more than enough power for the way I vape and then some. SO:

COME ON PROVAPE. RELEASE THESE THINGS ALREADY!!

Nice review.

It is kinda strange they didn't keep the device for a testor. It seems other's have. I'm sure shops notice how many people come in to check it out though.

 

[rbrylawski]

Nice review.

It is kinda strange they didn't keep the device for a testor. It seems other's have. I'm sure shops notice how many people come in to check it out though.

Thanks. I'm glad I at least got to use it. Or maybe I shouldn't be glad as now I want it more! They say patience is a virtue, but I think one has to be born with patience gene and I can honestly say I must have been in a different line when the patience gene was given out. I totally didn't get one! LOL

 

[Katdarling]

HB, I know you! You're that travel agent from New Yawk, right? Johnny T.?

Good one, DPLongo!

 

[HBcorpse]

Wow. Wasn't trying to be argumentative at all and initial comment should have communicated that. I was only pointing out that there certainly has been posts that I've seen, and lots of them. Most are now somewhat ancient history--you know, a few months ago. (and earlier).

No I know you weren't...
I'm sorry...I try to type the same way I talk, with inflection and emphasis on words and whatnot..it tends to dilute my points...

Seriously...I apologize.

I may argue back, against someone's words, but I certainly don't intend to START any arguments.

All is well, but thank you for clarifying. Most people don't bother to clarify, and leave things lost in translation, which causes arguments as well...


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