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[JohnD0406]

John, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I'm getting beyond amazing runtime on my Procyon compared to any other Provari I've owned. You can call it placebo, but it's not.

The only way that could even be possible is if ProVape is cutting off low battery voltage at a lower level, so you get more time. It's more likely the fresh battery, with a higher mAH rating causing the extra runtime. Put that same battery in the P3, at the same wattage, and see what you get.

If people really insist on a noticeable difference, I'll figure out a way to run a REAL test with a power resistor on an RDA and post the results. If only there were no time cutoff and it could be fired non-stop. I don't have any robots...

 

[rbrylawski]

The only way that could even be possible is if ProVape is cutting off low battery voltage at a lower level, so you get more time. It's more likely the fresh battery, with a higher mAH rating causing the extra runtime. Put that same battery in the P3, at the same wattage, and see what you get.

If people really insist on a noticeable difference, I'll figure out a way to run a REAL test with a power resistor on an RDA and post the results. If only there were no time cutoff and it could be fired non-stop. I don't have any robots...

I don't have a P3 anymore, but I am referencing the difference between the Procyon and Radius using the same battery. Don't get me wrong, the battery life on my Radius is also excellent, but there's just something special about battery life on the Procyon.

 

[USMCotaku]

I have a feeling the run time difference isn't in how much voltage remains in the battery (can't get much better of a battery connection the direct to board, no matter how good the Procyon end cap is)....but in how the Radius reads the battery. Since it "adjusts" the gauge to "how you vape", you aren't seeing actual remaining voltage, but an estimate on life based on your vaping. Bet if you ran both at the same settings, and both till they cut off, you would find a very similar vape time (assuming the cut off point is the same on both mods).

 

[GeekyGeezer]

I wouldn't mind trying the Triton Mini Claptons though. 1.9ohm, I think. The 1.2ohm coils are definitely not my thing.

I just bought 6 packs of Nautilus 1.8's and have another 5-6 at home. I am set for now but will stock up when a local B&M does their 20% off sale. I want to have around 30-40 5 packs in my stockpile.

I've been through three or four boxes of the Triton Mini coils. I originally was very interested in them since I was vaping mostly TC and having to pay $18 a box for the NI 200 coils that Vaporshark has Aspire make for them.

As everyone (other than Knife) has already mentioned, they just don't measure up to the regular Nautilus in my experience. Part of it is that their much larger internal coil diameter flows a lot more air, but to my tastebuds it's mostly because they just don't produce that remarkable flavor I get with the Nautilus.

The claptons are the only ones that seem to get close, but you're going to have to bump the power up significantly and that might be an issue with some Provari models. At their best, in that "I got it exactly right!" moment which quickly goes away, they may be CLOSE to, but certainly not better.

LIke I said, I really was hoping that these were a good replacement especially for the nickel aspect. Everyone's taste seems to be wildly different but for me these things just don't make the grade.

 

[FringeChief68]

The Aspire Triton v2 does look sharp

It's like the Triton Mini, But BIGGER

 

[Constantlybuying]

The mini nautilus clapton coil...isn't that pretty high for ohms to be clapton? I thought all clapton was sub-ohm? I wonder what the draw would be like on that?

Also I was just curious regarding the Procyon...I wonder why ProVape made this mod without being able to shorten it's length using extension tubes like they did with the P3? Any ideas?

 

[JohnD0406]

Also I was just curious regarding the Procyon...I wonder why ProVape made this mod without being able to shorten it's length using extension tubes like they did with the P3? Any ideas?

Yes - because it's 50W, so you're forced into using a battery that is safe at that power. The P3 is limited to 20W due to the ability to use an 18350. The single tube was the whole point of the Procyon.

 

[Constantlybuying]

Ah, I guess that makes sense but at the same time, you can still use 18650 with lower watts. I guess they didn't want people trying to use 18350's with higher wattages?

 

[JohnD0406]

Ah, I guess that makes sense but at the same time, you can still use 18650 with lower watts. I guess they didn't want people trying to use 18350's with higher wattages?

Bingo.

 

[Woofer]

These darn Provairis are so overpowered.

 

[BreSha6869]

I've been through three or four boxes of the Triton Mini coils. I originally was very interested in them since I was vaping mostly TC and having to pay $18 a box for the NI 200 coils that Vaporshark has Aspire make for them.

As everyone (other than Knife) has already mentioned, they just don't measure up to the regular Nautilus in my experience. Part of it is that their much larger internal coil diameter flows a lot more air, but to my tastebuds it's mostly because they just don't produce that remarkable flavor I get with the Nautilus.

The claptons are the only ones that seem to get close, but you're going to have to bump the power up significantly and that might be an issue with some Provari models. At their best, in that "I got it exactly right!" moment which quickly goes away, they may be CLOSE to, but certainly not better.

LIke I said, I really was hoping that these were a good replacement especially for the nickel aspect. Everyone's taste seems to be wildly different but for me these things just don't make the grade.

True. I'm going to stick with Nautilus coils in Kabukis and by next Mon, I will have about a dozen packs of the 1.8ohm in my stockpile. That should last me a while.

My SS Kabuki has a 2.8ohm Nautilus coil installed on a Classic, running at 12w and the airflow screw completely removed. Amazing vape/flavor.

My GMZ has the 1.2ohm Triton installed on a P3 running at 18w and the airflow screw almost completely tightened. Still too airy and the flavor is very muted compared to the Nautilus.

Once I blow thru the remaining 4 Triton Minis, that little experiment won't happen again. I absolutely love the full size 0.5ohm Tritons in my Super Tank Minis though.

 

[JohnD0406]

These darn Provairis are so overpowered.

Clouds, bro.

 

[BreSha6869]

The P3 is limited to 20W due to the ability to use an 18350.

If ProVape would update my P3's to 40-50w I would let them Crazy Glue my extension rings so I can only use an 18650. Seriously.

It's no suprise to many that I am not a big fan of 18650 tube Provaris, but the extra 5w in a P3 over a Classic is completely useless IME once you factor in the EQ, threads that aren't lubes enough, strings that aren't stretched enough and fluctuating ohms in subohm tanks. I gave up bothering subohming on P3's. Hell, even at 18w on a 1.2 coil, I get the odd error message if I look at the P3 the wrong way. I would welcome carriying around a huge 18650 tube mod if it would allow me to actually use a subohm coil without crapping out. My point? ProVape, let me upgrade my P3's to 40-50w!

 

[JohnD0406]

If ProVape would update my P3's to 40-50w I would let them Crazy Glue my extension rings so I can only use an 18650. Seriously.

Crazy Glue isn't conductive. Imagine the frustration.

ProVape, let me upgrade my P3's to 40-50w!

That will never happen. The 18650-only Radius is 40W, and the 18650-only Procyon is 50W. I think ProVape has pushed the limits of an 18350 as far as they're comfortable with at 20W in the P3.

 

[BreSha6869]

True. I'm going to stick with Nautilus coils in Kabukis and by next Mon, I will have about a dozen packs of the 1.8ohm in my stockpile. That should last me a while.

My SS Kabuki has a 2.8ohm Nautilus coil installed on a Classic, running at 12w and the airflow screw completely removed. Amazing vape/flavor.

My GMZ has the 1.2ohm Triton installed on a P3 running at 18w and the airflow screw almost completely tightened. Still too airy and the flavor is very muted compared to the Nautilus.

Once I blow thru the remaining 4 Triton Minis, that little experiment won't happen again. I absolutely love the full size 0.5ohm Tritons in my Super Tank Minis though.

Hold the phone.... I just tried the GMZ Kabuki with 1.2ohm Triton Mini on my Stealth Radius @ 21-22W. I likey! Not perfect, but surprisingly pretty good. These coils are supposedly rated for 15-20W, but I doubt running them
at 22-22W will end badly in any way.

Not quite the same experience as my go to Radius setup (Subtank Mini with a 0.5ohm coil @ 35W), but pretty good for a non-subohm vape and I like the fact that it allows me to use a Kabuki at fairly high wattage.

 

[BreSha6869]

Crazy Glue isn't conductive. Imagine the frustration.

duct tape then!

 

[FringeChief68]

Crazy Glue isn't conductive. Imagine the frustration.



That will never happen. The 18650-only Radius is 40W, and the 18650-only Procyon is 50W. I think ProVape has pushed the limits of an 18350 as far as they're comfortable with at 20W in the P3.

duct tape then!

Need some electrically conductive glue
Electrically Conductive Adhesives - Henkel

 

[JohnD0406]

Need some electrically conductive glue
Electrically Conductive Adhesives - Henkel

Yeah - electrically conductive glues and greases are like buying illegal substances - you pay top dollar, and by the ounce.

 

[FringeChief68]

Yeah - electrically conductive glues and greases are like buying illegal substances - you pay top dollar, and by the ounce.

Them Clouds don't come cheap

 

[jwbnyc]

Why not just sell the P3 and buy a Procyon?