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BreSha6869

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Why not just sell the P3 and buy a Procyon?
Laziness here. That and I DO like using my P3's at 12-13W and I am still not a fan of 18650 tubes.

I think I will wait for a Radius or similar ProVape box mod that has 50+ watts.
 

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You should get the same amount of runtime from the P3, at the same wattage, with the same 18650. ProVape already has a very high efficiency rating with the P3 - there isn't much more room to go before hitting an impossible 100% efficiency. Even if the P3 was 96% efficient, and the Procyon was 99% efficient (it isn't), that's still only 3% better. Describing the amount of extra time you think you're getting from the Procyon is impossible, and nothing more than placebo effect, IMHO.
I believe the cutoff voltage is significantly lower on the Procyon than other Provaris, which would explain a longer vape time.
 

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Wondering if they will do a Radius update to 50 watts, since they have decided 50 is ok on an 18650 only mod.....
If they did, I'd buy 2 more and sell off all my China made mods besides my SX Mini MLs and be happy. My sweet spot on my Crowns is 46 watts. This is perfect for my Procyon. I'm going to give it another month or two to see if this happens, and if not I'll buy two more Procyons and do the same thing.
 

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Wondering if they will do a Radius update to 50 watts, since they have decided 50 is ok on an 18650 only mod.....
Is there a reason why a bump to 50w on a Radius CANT be done via a simple update?

Asking as I have absolutely no clue what's involved.

My RX200 mods can be updated from 200 to 250W and I updated my SX Mini from 60 to 70W. Both via "Updates" vis USB.
 

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Is there a reason why a bump to 50w on a Radius CANT be done via a simple update?

Asking as I have absolutely no clue what's involved.

My RX200 mods can be updated from 200 to 250W and I updated my SX Mini from 60 to 70W. Both via "Updates" vis USB.

Honestly, the only one who can answer that question is Provape.
 

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Is there a reason why a bump to 50w on a Radius CANT be done via a simple update?

Asking as I have absolutely no clue what's involved.

My RX200 mods can be updated from 200 to 250W and I updated my SX Mini from 60 to 70W. Both via "Updates" vis USB.
My thoughts exactly. When I asked, I was told by Vape360 that he thought it would require a hardware change. Obviously on a Smok, VTC Mini, SX Mini, SXMini ML, RX200, or Vapor Flask with the SX chip it doesn't, but maybe Provape is different......
 

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My thoughts exactly. When I asked, I was told by Vape360 that he thought it would require a hardware change. Obviously on a Smok, VTC Mini, SX Mini, SXMini ML, RX200, or Vapor Flask with the SX chip it doesn't, but maybe Provape is different......

ProVape are very safety-oriented. A firmware update could change the wattage to whatever they wanted (within tolerances of their voltage boost circuit, and providing amp limits were adjusted accordingly as well), but only they know the specs of their components and what is reasonable within safety tolerances.

All those Chinese companies care about is the number displayed on the screen, to keep up with the "wattage wars". There's a new mod on the market that supposedly goes up to 300W, as if 200W and now 250W wasn't enough? Didn't see that one coming. So, safety aside, of course those Chinese manufacturers will let you display a bigger number - doesn't mean they're really reaching those numbers.

Seems they're all pushing 100W/18650 now, which is not only not possible, but very unsafe.
 

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Although I like the design of the Procyon, I think this one is not for me. I have 10 ProVarii, and I only use my Radius now. And other box mods I own. I seem to no longer be a fan of tube mods.

The Radius was the first user upgradable mod I owned, and I really like that idea. Many of you here already know why none of my 3 P3s have no updates on them. I'm not going there again. I feel at this price point, user upgrades are only a good thing. It not about what may come in the future, but more about fixing issues that do occur from time to time.

I think I would buy another Radius before I buy a Procyon.
 

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I just ordered a satin one. It will be my first Provari. I have a box full of tanks and mods but unless the mod already has a sealed battery, I only use 18650s, so the ProVari Procyon should fix me for tube mods. I don't use anything over about 17w and will use a Melo 2 or full size Nautilus on the Procyon. It's overkill for my use but as far as tube mods go ... it's what I've been looking for. Don't think I'll be disappointed but can understand and easily see how it wouldn't fit the bill for everyone.

And of all my box mods, the only one I currently use is an Aspire Pegasus 70w single 18650. What I LOVE most about it is the docking charge station. That is just so dang handy. Wish the Provari's had a docking charge station available. That should be simpler internally than a USB port many would like to see and would be less wear and tear screwing and unscrewing the end cap to change to a charged battery.
 
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I just ordered a satin one. It will be my first Provari. I have a box full of tanks and mods but unless the mod already has a sealed battery, I only use 18650s, so the ProVari Procyon should fix me for tube mods. I don't use anything over about 17w and will use a Melo 2 or full size Nautilus on the Procyon. It's overkill for my use but as far as tube mods go ... it's what I've been looking for. Don't think I'll be disappointed but can understand and easily see how it wouldn't fit the bill for everyone.

And of all my box mods, the only one I currently use is an Aspire Pegasus 70w single 18650. What I LOVE most about it is the docking charge station. That is just so dang handy. Wish the Provari's had a docking charge station available. That should be simpler internally than a USB port many would like to see and would be less wear and tear screwing and unscrewing the end cap to change to a charged battery.
Hope you enjoy it! Please let us know. I wouldn't worry about wear and tear on that end cap. I used the same V2 for 3 years before switching to a P3. U.S. stainless steel, don't you know? A dab of NO-Ox on the threads once a week and cleaning them (threads) once a month wouldn't hurt either.
 

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Well, I should withhold my recommendation for a charging dock until I see how it goes. Won't be any problem to change out a battery once a day or so but that charging dock for the Pegasus has me spoiled.

The Pegasus is not even my favorite box mod ... but it is the only one with a charging dock, so it gets used despite the fact the Pegasus is only adjustable in 1 watt increments instead of .1 or .2 (like the Procyon). Even that hasn't been an issue in finding a sweet spot either though. The charging dock just wins it. It's basically a dock with a USB connection and I use an aspire wall wart to power it. The box mod has two contact points on the base that correspond to points on the dock.

I can see where one issue with a tube mod and a charging dock would be indexing the contacts. The irregular shape of the Pegasus box mod means that there is only one way to place the mod in the charging dock and no possibility of incorrectly aligning + and -. May not work with a tube mod as easily as one might think I guess.
 
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Well, I should withhold my recommendation for a charging dock until I see how it goes. Won't be any problem to change out a battery once a day or so but that charging dock for the Pegasus has me spoiled.

The Pegasus is not even my favorite box mod ... but it is the only one with a charging dock, so it gets used despite the fact the Pegasus is only adjustable in 1 watt increments instead of .1 or .2 (like the Procyon). Even that hasn't been an issue in finding a sweet spot either though. The charging dock just wins it. It's basically a dock with a USB connection and I use an aspire wall wart to power it. The box mod has two contact points on the base that correspond to points on the dock.

I can see where one issue with a tube mod and a charging dock would be indexing the contacts. The irregular shape of the Pegasus box mod means that there is only one way to place the mod in the charging dock and no possibility of incorrectly aligning + and -. May not work with a tube mod as easily as one might think I guess.
actually....if you made the center the positive, and outer ring negative (or swapped, either way), you could have a dock that wouldn't matter how you placed the mod inside of it. ;)
 

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Although I like the design of the Procyon, I think this one is not for me. I have 10 ProVarii, and I only use my Radius now. And other box mods I own. I seem to no longer be a fan of tube mods.

The Radius was the first user upgradable mod I owned, and I really like that idea. Many of you here already know why none of my 3 P3s have no updates on them. I'm not going there again. I feel at this price point, user upgrades are only a good thing. It not about what may come in the future, but more about fixing issues that do occur from time to time.

I think I would buy another Radius before I buy a Procyon.
I still love my 11 Provari tube mods (2.5, Classic and P3), but do tend to reach for my Radius the most (but not often during the day). I think a 2nd Radius would make me happier than a Procyon too.

I still subohm a lot, and mainly at night. My SX Mini still gets a lot of use and my RX200s are pulled out from time to time, but during the day, it is almost always tube mods.

To each their own in any case...
 

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... added Kabuki P3 inbound. Why not, was going to use a Nautilus on the Procyon anyway.
I have been a huge Nautilus fan since I started vaping but IMO the Kabuki is much better. Worth 3x the $$$? Subjective, but prolly not for most. For me it is.

My 3rd lands tomorrow and I bought my first less than 3 weeks ago.:cool:
 

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I have been a huge Nautilus fan since I started vaping but IMO the Kabuki is much better. Worth 3x the $$$? Subjective, but prolly not for most. For me it is.

My 3rd lands tomorrow and I bought my first less than 3 weeks ago.:cool:

What a surprise and so not like you.........(said SR in total jest!) :lol:
 
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