Oh my goodness, Provape is no more!

[Vesh]

I doubt is only because of the FDA regs and lawsuits. Provape absolutely refused to evolv with the vape industry. People aren't going to pay $200 for a mod when they can get one with more power and features for a quarter of that price. They turned themselves into the Nokia of vaping and became irrelevant.

I wondered this myself, but as I said, i saw them selling here for double what they are there. it's still a valid representation of a cross section of vapers who want a premium product, yes?
Plus, because I really wanted a radius or a procyon gold, i used to monitor their stock and what was on sale quite often, at the provape website. Things seem to sell out at a reasonable pace to my eyes.

I am just sad that it's American jobs now lost and an American company that has gone under.. If there were a lot of provape style devs around, sure, it wouldn't hit as hard,but they were one of the what seems to be *very* few "not made in China" players.

With all the stuff i have bought, i kinda regret not getting myself that gold procyon a year ago, and forgoing a couple alternative products instead. Oh well, as they say.. hindsight is always... (you know the rest).

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Adios dear friends at ProVape.

I fear many of our 3 letter agencies are so ridiculously out of control and so far overreaching their actual intended scope that this is the decided fate of all that is not a controlled closed system.
As it relates to vaping we now have seen the tip of the iceberg, the underlying mass seeks less obvious targets in our lives.

I know they did not go gentile into that good night.
Thank you for expending your resources fighting for not only your survival but also for the rights of many unknown to you that may or may not use your products...
TWE

FDA - eat my shorts.

 

[Rule62]

REOs mods...for now

REO is still alive and well. They have just scaled back their presence on ECF.
There are still several 'boutique' type, limited production shops around, with waiting lists. I believe there will always be a market for limited production, higher end gear.

 

[mattiem]

Interestingly, the one store in OZ that is loaded with provari stock ready to ship, is the one about 40 min drive from me.. At premium prices of course.. They even have a gold P3 and a gold procyon, as well as the blue with carbon trim on the radius, which is very sexy. Anyway, I digress.. the point i was going to make was, i wonder how stores that have invested in them so heavily will react? Obviously they will all be as surprised as us.. In a month, not even the fimrware will be available for download anymore.. The warranty is basically now zero.. so what are all these stores here, the US, UK, etc, going to do with all this stock? They will have to offer some sort of warranty of their own, for example. I mean they invested in a brand they thought would stick around and a brand that was renowned for quality. I guess that's the one good thing about the quality control at provape, at least if someone still buys one of the remaining stock, they will likely get something that will work properly.

But who would pay $300 AUD now (for example) for a mod that has not only been discontinued, but the parent company has ceased to operate? And people DID pay the money here for them, cause there were always plenty of colour combos out of stock over the years. I think you'd have to be kind of mad to drop that sort of coin on one now.

Lastly, I kind of don't get it. I need a brushing up on the FDA challenges. All this time I thought the regulations were about nicotine and juice. Obviously it's about devices as well. Any way to give me a very brief rundown on why you think provape were so affected by this? Also i have seen the date August 2018 said here a couple of times, and I am still not sure what is happening then, nor does a google search shed light on that........

According to this ProVape Closing warranty will still be in effect. hard to know how long that will continue though .

I personally don't have one of their devices but I still hate to hear that they have closed up shop.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Timing of closing was wrong to blame it completely on FDA. So, I suspect, they folded because of shrinking market.

 

[Robino1]

Timing of closing was wrong to blame it completely on FDA. So, I suspect, they folded because of shrinking market.

That and the fact that they can no longer even try to compete. When your hands are tied and you cannot make NEW products, your basically screwed. Even if they came up with an idea that might be competitive, they cannot bring it to market. No New Devices allowed, per the FDA.

So yes, it is because of the FDA. It can be laid right on their doorstep.

 

[WillyZee]

That and the fact that they can no longer even try to compete. When your hands are tied and you cannot make NEW products, your basically screwed. Even if they came up with an idea that might be competitive, they cannot bring it to market. No New Devices allowed, per the FDA.

So yes, it is because of the FDA. It can be laid right on their doorstep.

very well explained Robino ... basically their hands were tied.

 

[Hitcat44]

Ahhh Yes,,, Yet another "Success Story" brought to you exclusively by the far over-reaching Freedom-Squashing pernicious Machines of a Liberal Progressive Elitist Grub-Mint.

I personally will continue to hope & pray that the current Administration's goals & efforts to rectify the aforementioned widespread vile Sins & Crimes against We the People will be fruitful soon enough to reverse ProVape's unfortunate yet unavoidable decision.
If not, many and much more than ProVape will fall asunder and be trampled under the "all-knowing benevolent" Jack-Boots of the prior self-serving Regime's Bureaucratic Zealots.

Thanks so much to ProVape for their contributions to Quality, healthy Vape-Life, and the awesome top-notch Creme-de-la-Crème Devices.
As an Owner and HUGE Fan of their Wares, I am eternally grateful to them and their legacy.

 

[Alien Traveler]

That and the fact that they can no longer even try to compete. When your hands are tied and you cannot make NEW products, your basically screwed. Even if they came up with an idea that might be competitive, they cannot bring it to market. No New Devices allowed, per the FDA.

So yes, it is because of the FDA. It can be laid right on their doorstep.

We may say it, of course. A grain of reality is here, but only a grain.
Inclination of small western vaping companies to follow artisan (high priced) business model is not successful in today's climate. Most vaping innovations are coming from China today. And most successful business solutions are also from over there.

 

[Robino1]

We may say it, of course. A grain of reality is here, but only a grain.
Inclination of small western vaping companies to follow artisan (high priced) business model is not successful in today's climate. Most vaping innovations are coming from China today. And most successful business solutions are also from over there.

They also don't have their hands tied by the FDA. They can keep making new products. Some will get across the borders and some may not in the future.

They don't have the FDA saying that China can not make new products. The FDA controls EVERYTHING being made for vaping in the USA. So yes, it is still on the FDA's bloody hands that our vape shops are closing. The closing of these shops will soon come faster and faster as the deadlines loom ever closer.

For the record, I like supporting the small business' in the USA. Even those that supplied products made outside of the US. I bought from companies that sold the products here.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I am not discussing FDA here. What I am saying is if ProVape was profitable now it had chance to be profitable for at least 1.5 years more. But they closed. So?

 

[Robino1]

I am not discussing FDA here. What I am saying is if ProVape was profitable now it had chance to be profitable for at least 1.5 years more. But they closed. So?

I will repost their reason for closing taken directly from their site: Due to upcoming FDA regulations and restrictions, we have made the decision to cease production and close operations.

In light of their hands being tied for putting out new product to stay competitive, they made the choice to close.

You and many others have consistently stated that they are not keeping up with the times. Devices evolve and so do the people using these devices. The market was pretty saturated with ProVari. People bought into the clouds category. New vapers were the bread and butter of the ProVari market. It is a safe and fairly foolproof method of vaping.

New vapers are being scared off by the FDA and their cronies. When the new vaper market dried up, so did the fresh pool of customers.

That still can be put right into the lap of the FDA.

 

[ppeeble]

If the FDA is the sole reason for Provape shutting up shop then that is unforgiveable. I believe equally to blame is the current attitude of a lot of new vapers; they want the biggest at the cheapest cost. (I know a lot of vapers who use 70-100 watt devices with 12 watt atomisers). Chinese mods (with little or no quality control) can be had for pennies.
Simply put; I mourn a company who put quality and customer satisfaction first.
Thank you Provape.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I see the provaritini's fury is still intact.



Everyone knows Provape resisted changing their program to evolve with vaping trends.

They bragged about it on their website.

Im sure upcomming regulations played a part, but their business model has been sideways for years now.
Its never been a secret.
Anyone who has watched the company over the past few years knows this.

It is what it is.

 

[Just Me]

After watching the Phil Busardo's tour of their operation, I know all those people there were just like family. I'm sure there were lots of tears when it all went down. I'm really sad for them.

Thank you, Provape. You are the only reason I'm still smoke-free for 3 1/2 years now.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Chinese mods (with little or no quality control) can be had for pennies.

No quality control?
I use only Chinese mods. Not a single one failed in my almost 3 years of vaping.
I am sorry for ProVape, they had their followers, but today they were mostly irrelevant.

 

[daviedog]

If choosing between Quality & Performace, i would choose performace.
Quality is an elusive attribute only noticed after experience.
Highly doubt, beginning vapers started with a $190 device.
RIP Provape.
Vaping belongs to the living..

 

[WillyZee]

I see the provaritini's fury is still intact.



Everyone knows Provape resisted changing their program to evolve with vaping trends.

They bragged about it on their website.

Im sure upcomming regulations played a part, but their business model has been sideways for years now.
Its never been a secret.
Anyone who has watched the company over the past few years knows this.

It is what it is.

ProVape has always been about safety and simply quitting smoking ... the big clouds hobby direction the industry went was never their intention.


Sent via iPhone

 

[daviedog]

Provape ignored Market vagaries & paid the price.
Please excuse as i enjoy my HohmSlice..

 

[Robino1]

If choosing between Quality & Performace, i would choose performace.
Quality is an elusive attribute only noticed after experience.
Highly doubt, beginning vapers started with a $190 device.
RIP Provape.
Vaping belongs to the living..

True, beginner vapers do not jump into vaping and paying such a high price on something they don't know whether or not vaping will actually work.

I sure didn't. But(!) when I realized that vaping did get me off of cigarettes, I bought a ProVari and I still have that same ProVari after 4 years and it still works.