ok. So I'm a tech geek and intimatly familar with lithium battery technology. looking for answers. chargers seem subpar

[Gigaah]

I'm way to familar with lithium battery technology. I have a joye 510. with a standard battery. I got a 5 slot charger. I yank the battery off the charger and It reads about 3.6/3.7vv. So what variety of lithium batteries are these? A regular lithium ion/polymer battery would read around 4.2. But that is assuming these chargers are not super sub par. I mean I already assumed they probably we not the best chargers in the world.

the 2nd question in in relation to the amperage drain from a standard 510 battery. The standard atty's I have are about 2.2ohm so worst case senario completly throwing out voltage drop its about 1.7amps. or roughtly 10C drain. With only these rough calculations I've gathered. a 280mah battery you should be able to pull 2.8amps and 1.3ohm atty. However that is assuming the internal cuircuits will allow and can handle that. I'm guessing that might be the sticking point.

I'll sum up my post for clarity
1. what sort of lithium battery is in these 510's?
2. Are the chargers fully charging the batteries?
3. Misc info on reccomended drain / atty resistance on the 510 standard and mega battery.
4. What is the limiting factor in the max drain from these batteries? safe for battery or safe for cheap internal cuircuits?

Sorry for the tech questions. I simply have a hard time using something and not understanding the device in and out.

 

[Rocketman]

1. Little bitty Li-ion 4.2 volt cell.
2. Yes (you don't get to measure full volts from the battery connector with a 510)
3. These defy any recommendations based on a "C" rating max drain.
4. They are overloaded. Don't know why they work so well. Must be magic

The cell inside a 510 is small. The circuitry inside is overloaded. The safety aspect is the electronics will die before the cell blows the little plastic end cap off. But they work. Output is electronically controlled to about 3.1 to 3.2 volts, loaded. They indicate about 0.5 volts lower than the internal cell voltage at no load.

 

[otrpu]

Rocketman bout summed it up. You want more geeky and real quality, go PILA charger and AW batts. You can geek yur azz off then. But, you better be MOD.

http://www.pila-usa.com/pilaparts/charger.html

http://www.cpfreviews.com/AW-Batteries-Chargers.php

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[AttyPops]

I really like #4 Rocketman....

Gigaah... you said standard battery, then mention 280 mAh? You know standard is 180, mega 280, true? You probably won't find a 1.3 ohm atty unless you build it or get real lucky with some LR atty. They are usually 1.5 ohms, and the batteries just won't work well with em I've heard. I don't prefer the hits from em anyway but some swear by em.

Being logical, you know there are three possible results with an LR atty and a standard/mega 510 battery:
1) it blows the circuits, since they were overloaded at standard ohms
2) the end cap blows off pushing that little battery so far it vents
3) it dies after like 20 hits

None of these are good. I'm taking bets on this from the group as to what happens in what order. Maybe someone with more experience will be able to relate their "LR on standard 510" stories!

Anyway, since the posters of Christmas-past and Christmas-present have answered above, I (the poster of Christmas-yet-to-come) posted to add some hope:

See http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-1800-mah-super-mini-size-few-years-away.html

Let's hope Santa gets these in our stockings soon (and that the nano-tech is safe).

 

[Gigaah]

Thanks. Thats about what I was after. I didn't realize that output was actually regulated down to 3.2. Seems like a highly unusual practice for a resistance loaded device. I figured the voltage drop was probaly due to the fact we are running that bats at 10c+ wich is probably at or slightly above their burst rating. Thanks.