Ok so my first run in with the local vapor shop.

[ILoveNorCal]

Trends usually start at the coast and move inward... that's all I was getting at. I wasn't trying to insult anyone and I certainly apologize if I ruffled anyone's jimmies.

 

[rurwin]

I have never understood paying a vendor to advertise for them. If you want me wearing your logo then the shirt should be free.

I'd agree with that. Skoda dealers do a really nice fleece jacket, but the price they want for it is ridiculous. It's not even a prestige marque.

I had a very strange encounter with a salesman when I bought my latest camera. I'd researched on the Internet and asked to see the model I'd chosen. Fair enough. Then I gave him an explicit invitation to up-sell. I'll always pay the money if I can see the advantage. He refused point blank to discuss any other item than the one I had asked for. He didn't say he didn't know, he didn't suggest finding someone who did, he didn't try to bluff, he didn't even tell me I had chosen the best one at less than twice the price. He was just totally uninterested. In retrospect I wish I'd put the camera down and walked away.

On the other hand, when I visited the only B&M in my vicinity and found a handful of teenage salesmen who marveled at how small my 400mAh eGo-C was and described 18mg as high nicotine, I wasn't impressed. But they were honest and trying to be helpful and they were promoting vaping with a decent collection of good gear, and that is commendable.

 

[CalamityJess]

I'd agree with that. Skoda dealers do a really nice fleece jacket, but the price they want for it is ridiculous. It's not even a prestige marque.

I had a very strange encounter with a salesman when I bought my latest camera. I'd researched on the Internet and asked to see the model I'd chosen. Fair enough. Then I gave him an explicit invitation to up-sell. I'll always pay the money if I can see the advantage. He refused point blank to discuss any other item than the one I had asked for. He didn't say he didn't know, he didn't suggest finding someone who did, he didn't try to bluff. He was just totally uninterested. In retrospect I wish I'd put the camera down and walked away.

On the other hand, when I visited the only B&M in my vicinity and found a handful of teenage salesmen who marveled at how small my 400mAh eGo-C was and described 18mg as high nicotine, I wasn't impressed. But they were honest and trying to be helpful and they were promoting vaping with a decent collection of good gear, and that is commendable.

My vape shop gives out tshirts when you spend $100. I have 4 now....

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Going to this specifically:

I'm not going to justify my attitude or anything else, but this was the point in what I was trying to make. Got it, it holds batteries, therefore "Battery holder".

The reason it made me a little curious and kind of chipped at me was just due to the fact that she works in a shop and has never seen a mod with a digital display before? Yet they sell the Innokin iTaste MVP series. Odd isn't it? Overall, the point I was making was you don't work for a business and not know what you're selling, or be somewhat of the 'subject matter expert' (SME) of the other items that may walk into your store. That would be like me trying to sell and repair TV's and not know a damn thing about the brand, manufacturing process, parts, accessories, etc of every possible brand of television that walked through my door. Not to mention you had to be there to hear HOW it was said as well. I think that's why the other salespeople that were in there were kind of thrown back and she was quickly moved off the sales floor. Again, am I justifying my blunt and straightforward response? No, I'm clarifying what my post was intended to be about. Knowledge of your products and various other products out and about. Again, other than that, pretty good store to stop into. The rest of the folks there have a pretty vast knowledge of their equipment both in and out of the store. They were also pretty helpful as well. And yes, I did ask them a lot of questions, they did answer them in a professional manner, and if they didn't know they said "We really don't know". Which to me is an acceptable answer. Would I have did the same thing with any other device? Absolutely.

Now back to my hole... ah but before I go - needed to mention - my wife wanted to see what all the craze was about, why I've been spending copious amounts of time in my "den" and what I've been brewing up. She's smoked back in her teen years and just didn't like it, she's smoked hookahs with me in the past and loved it, although it gave her a headache from time to time. So she wanted to taste some of that "flavored air", which is what she calls it, and I was cool with that. Now she's content and she's having a blast. I told her I would eventually get her an RBA / RDA so she could build her own stuff, even show her how to do it. Or direct her in the right direction to get it done. She wrapped her first coil, made her first atomizer setup, and told me it was frustrating at first but she had fun doing it. And she'd gladly do it again.

Your so sweet "eventually going to get her an RBA/RDA", lucky girl.

Your post here and the original are demonstrating an elitist better than everyone air.

The sales lady was doing exactly what she should have done, complimented you on your antiquated PV and suggest that you look at what she has to offer you.

Her not recognizing that your battery holding chip sporting mil spec built in the USA PV also meant you might be good for a couple hundred dollars worth of sales was her only real failure.

The dude who stroked your ego did even better at his sales job, touch your ego in just the right way and drain you for all you've got. I hope he works on commission.

In any case, Builder, you got fluffed at the B&M by a master salesman and didn't even know it.

Cool story.

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

Your so sweet "eventually going to get her an RBA/RDA", lucky girl.

Your post here and the original are demonstrating an elitist better than everyone air.

The sales lady was doing exactly what she should have done, complimented you on your antiquated PV and suggest that you look at what she has to offer you.

Her not recognizing that your battery holding chip sporting mil spec built in the USA PV also meant you might be good for a couple hundred dollars worth of sales was her only real failure.

The dude who stroked your ego did even better at his sales job, touch your ego in just the right way and drain you for all you've got. I hope he works on commission.

In any case, Builder, you got fluffed at the B&M by a master salesman and didn't even know it.

Cool story.

LOL, Yeah the second salesman was so good he had the OP's wife vaping when they left....Too Funny

 

[freeatlast!]

Just some random thoughts I had while reading through this thread....

Face it, an awful lot of folks on this forum have spent a ridiculous amount of money on "battery holders"....

ProVari is not the only "theme" that brings out some real "attitude" in forum members....

One could have 15+ ProVaris for the price of one Otto Carter....why is there no Otto Carter thread????

Other than the fact that vaping has allowed us to quit smoking (which is major!), we probably should all have our heads examined for the degree of obsession we have over this activity/hobby/smoking cessation method....

We are a bunch of grown-ups who are dependent on adult pacifiers....

Vape on, friends!

 

[Glen Snyder]

Finding that most B & M employees that I've run across are unfamiliar with Zen devices also. js

 

[freeatlast!]

There is so much stuff out that I suppose it's difficult for an employee to be familiar with it all....for a bigger store with a handful of employees, maybe each could specialize....my local is pretty much restricted to eGo types, Smoktech, and Innokin. Have to go to Wichita for more sophisticated stuff. I'd rather buy online most of the time though.

 

[Drozd]

Yeah the general superior air that I see a lot of provari owners makes me think of it as the hipster apple of the ecig world....

And man I ....ing hate apple...

Only thing worse are GG owners...

 

[Rocketpunk]

Some B&M employees may not care about rebuildables. Simple as that. That would be someone like me. I couldn't care less about rebuildables. I simply and politely refer them to the employees who do know more than me and use them. I know enough, but it holds zero interest for me.

 

[Ryedan]

Yeah the general superior air that I see a lot of provari owners makes me think of it as the hipster apple of the ecig world....

And man I ....ing hate apple...

Only thing worse are GG owners...

No it's not a lot of Provari owners. Don't forget, there are a lot of them out there. I always see the same few people doing the fanboy/fangirl thing when someone says something negative about a ProV (real or imagined). Then there are the people that always chime in with their anti Provari sentiment (real or imagined). Anti-fanboyism? They are just as bad, just in the opposite direction.

Generalizing just makes things worse in the long run, for everyone. Yes, there is always a grain of truth to these things, but if you look at it objectively I believe the vast majority of Provari owners are just as down to earth as everyone else. Same for the reverse-fanboy type, not too many of them out there. And we can debate the chicken and egg thing all night, but in the end one of these groups is nothing without the other.

 

[Ryedan]

why is there no Otto Carter thread????

LOL, just wait until someone shows up on ECF with one

 

[Tealady12]

Why am I imagining the theme song from "the good, the bad and the ugly" in the background while I read this!

 

[Dshobe]

I've read through the thread. It's been pretty funny. So congrats, OP.

Sent from a van down by the river.

 

[Robdob]

I just looked up Otto Carter. O.M.G.!!!!!!!!!

 

[minimalsaint]

No it's not a lot of Provari owners. Don't forget, there are a lot of them out there. I always see the same few people doing the fanboy/fangirl thing when someone says something negative about a ProV (real or imagined). Then there are the people that always chime in with their anti Provari sentiment (real or imagined). Anti-fanboyism? They are just as bad, just in the opposite direction.

Generalizing just makes things worse in the long run, for everyone. Yes, there is always a grain of truth to these things, but if you look at it objectively I believe the vast majority of Provari owners are just as down to earth as everyone else. Same for the reverse-fanboy type, not too many of them out there. And we can debate the chicken and egg thing all night, but in the end one of these groups is nothing without the other.

You know, I think the clone fanboys are a more militant bunch than the Prowhatzit owners.
But if you want a real crazy bunch, throw some stones around the Reo owners.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Going to this specifically:

I'm not going to justify my attitude or anything else...

No need my friend, you did so eloquently and with grace. When I was a Provari owner and someone in a vape store didn't know what it was, I'd shoot one of them in the face. Sure it was tad harsh but the rest knew what a Provari was after that! The only problem is, now I'm wanted in 6 states.

 

[athousandyears]

I just saw this pic on Facebook and it made me think of this thread.



I have nothing against Provari owners. I just thought it was hilarious.

 

[sneakerpimp]

Why am I imagining the theme song from "the good, the bad and the ugly" in the background while I read this!

it like we're watching provarinati on provarinati crime.

 

[shawnphase]

sorry, but i think this is the kind of thing that separates us as vapers. arrogance + psuedohobbies = poop-in-buttism