OK this is my rant
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Wow, personally my first 3 months I was way overdoing it daily and was in a constant state of OD. All my fault, though I knew it was a mild OD and I eventually learned to back off. Let me tell you, if you vape 24+mg between 10 and 15 mls a day you will make yourself very ill. No it won't kill you but it's deffinatelly a OD level.
Oh boy, a philosophical debate...I LOVE these posts! 
First off, I understand the stigma conjured when hearing the term 'overdose', but I believe this post is playing off too much emphasis on mere wordplay. The word overdose has simply become streamlined into our everyday vocabulary to represent, in less words, 'an excessive amount administered into the human body as to generate side effects or serious health consequences'. Even though the term overdose may elevate a sense of panic within some people, I believe the majority just simply take it as a strong caution and nothing more. Besides, anyone who is new to vaping who begins to experience the symptoms of too much nicotine consumption would be frightened away from PV's more by the side effects than by an actual phrase.
First off, I understand the stigma conjured when hearing the term 'overdose', but I believe this post is playing off too much emphasis on mere wordplay. The word overdose has simply become streamlined into our everyday vocabulary to represent, in less words, 'an excessive amount administered into the human body as to generate side effects or serious health consequences'. Even though the term overdose may elevate a sense of panic within some people, I believe the majority just simply take it as a strong caution and nothing more. Besides, anyone who is new to vaping who begins to experience the symptoms of too much nicotine consumption would be frightened away from PV's more by the side effects than by an actual phrase.
I would have to agree with vert on this one. Side affects does not mean an OD. If you were doing an illegal drug and started having hallucinations it doesn't mean that you OD it is just one of the side affects. If you are going to get technical an overdose means "a lethal or toxic amount".
I would have to say I agree with the OP too. If you have medical background, you have the experience and knowledge to realize that an OD to people in the medical profession may mean something different to you than people educated by society. You had to go to school to learn your defintion. The definition that almost everybody who isn't medical knows it that "if you take one more drag on your ecig, you're going to die". I agree that we don't want new people thinking this. Definately not a good thing.
I could go on about negative side effects being an indicator of toxicity, but I think I've made my point that from a technical (yes, that word) standpoint overdose is the accurate term. While I do use it to describe what is happening to a panicking newcomer, I also let them know that they probably just need to cut back.
If they are extra panicky, or are describing more severe symptoms, I may suggest they see their doctor. It's probably true that some of the more severe symptoms described are just normal overdose symptoms, but some don't fit the standard list and could be due to smoking-related illnesses. I'd hate to tell someone to suck it up and find out two months later that the burning sensation in their chest was actually lung cancer and it's now too late. I've never seen chest pain listed as a symptom of nicotine overdose, so I err on the side of caution.
I'll continue giving my opinions, not someone else's because they don't like the word I use. If you disagree with my post, present your own opinion. That's the beautiful thing about this country, you don't have to fight to get your message out. Just remember that you don't need to start a fight if all you want to do is present another opinion.
I'm a stubborn Minnesota boy, and I do not apologize for it. I'm also a nice guy, and I appreciate every one else's opinion. Tell you what, though, I'll make an extra effort to not accidentally alarm anyone when I do use the term "nicotine overdose".
To all of our health!
If they are extra panicky, or are describing more severe symptoms, I may suggest they see their doctor. It's probably true that some of the more severe symptoms described are just normal overdose symptoms, but some don't fit the standard list and could be due to smoking-related illnesses. I'd hate to tell someone to suck it up and find out two months later that the burning sensation in their chest was actually lung cancer and it's now too late. I've never seen chest pain listed as a symptom of nicotine overdose, so I err on the side of caution.
I'll continue giving my opinions, not someone else's because they don't like the word I use. If you disagree with my post, present your own opinion. That's the beautiful thing about this country, you don't have to fight to get your message out. Just remember that you don't need to start a fight if all you want to do is present another opinion.
I'm a stubborn Minnesota boy, and I do not apologize for it. I'm also a nice guy, and I appreciate every one else's opinion. Tell you what, though, I'll make an extra effort to not accidentally alarm anyone when I do use the term "nicotine overdose".
To all of our health!
Hey Critter Man no harm done, as you said everyone has an opinion and it is your right to express it. Some people come in here just to yank your chain. It's all in good fun and believe it or not evryone can learn something in these forums.
"GO VIKINGS" NOT!!!!!
"GO VIKINGS" NOT!!!!!
True, but a misdiagnosis of saying "you're od'ing, you need to cut back" when they actually had cancer...that's just as wrong as telling them they're od'ing when they're just not used to the effects of a different nicotine delivery system. I do agree with you on the Dr part though. If they're having problems, best to see their doc as NONE of us are qualified to diagnose their symptoms over the internet 
I think that's it. It does seem that for a bunch of ex-smokers to freak out about nicotine- well, it's a little funny. No one had a night partying and smoked too much? I did about a 100 years ago and wasn't carted off in an ambulance. I sometimes think it's all the flavorings in juice that are making people a little queasy too. You should be cautious but people tend to be a bit dramatic. Same with worrying about what's in the juice- I can't be the only one that looked behind seat cushions or cigs at the bottom of my purse when I was out of cigs.
Nope. Guilty as charged!
I think it's a little funny that some ex-smokers get freaked out over nicotine. There's a tendency for some people to automatically start associating vaping with whatever issue they're having, and they'll attribute it to OD'ing, being allergic, something in their juice or any other host of things they can think of. For a very small percentage of people that might be true however, if you stub your toe while your vaping and then blame vaping I'm going to laugh at you!
I think I'll go OD on my PV while I'm making my EJ.
What I think is funny about many people is how they like to put a nice, tight box around something and then say, “Here you go. That’s the problem.”
Take a first time vaper. They take some hits of a PV and their heart starts racing. Or they feel light head or dizzy. It has to be, wait for it, the nicotine. Right?
Why is it that people don’t consider that it might be that this is the first time that a person just put PG/VG in their lungs. Or that food approved, or not approved for that matter, flavors are going into someone’s lungs.
Take a first time vaper. They take some hits of a PV and their heart starts racing. Or they feel light head or dizzy. It has to be, wait for it, the nicotine. Right?
Why is it that people don’t consider that it might be that this is the first time that a person just put PG/VG in their lungs. Or that food approved, or not approved for that matter, flavors are going into someone’s lungs.
Then you ask the person what they were vaping and they vaped banana's foster with a little peanut butter thrown in, then tried a little atomic cyanide followed by some buttered popcorn. Yea, it's the nicotine!
LOL. I've seen this movie too...
I did a review about Atomic Cynacide way back when and a member PM-ed me saying that they tried it and thought they maybe got a bad batch with bad nicotine in it. The reason, their tounge felt "Tingly" after they took 6 or 7 hits in a row.
It's always the Nicotine.
Just a Clarification:
No matter what the cause, High Nicotine-PG/VG-Flavoring-etc, if a person ever experiences Heart Racing or Dizziness while vaping, they should stop vaping what ever caused the Heart Racing or Dizziness and consider seeing a doctor.
I dont want Anyone to think that these are Normal Side Effects of vaping because they are Not.
No matter what the cause, High Nicotine-PG/VG-Flavoring-etc, if a person ever experiences Heart Racing or Dizziness while vaping, they should stop vaping what ever caused the Heart Racing or Dizziness and consider seeing a doctor.
I dont want Anyone to think that these are Normal Side Effects of vaping because they are Not.
I like the OP, except the typo's and mysspellingz make me giddy. It isnt a philosophical debate, it is pure semantics... well actually the post seems to be now about word definition. In every day conversation, OD has come to mean "partaking too much." bla bla bla. I totally get cringing at the usage of terms tho'. And we were warned - it is a rant.
If the point is, "cut the drama, you are scaring the straights," I hear you- and good luck with that!
I get irritated that 'nauseous' is used where 'nauseated' is correct (or was when I was a child...).
Sincerely,
An actual cunning linguist, BA.
If the point is, "cut the drama, you are scaring the straights," I hear you- and good luck with that!
I get irritated that 'nauseous' is used where 'nauseated' is correct (or was when I was a child...).
Sincerely,
An actual cunning linguist, BA.
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I like the OP, except the typo's and mysspellingz make me giddy. It isnt a philosophical debate, it is pure semantics... well actually the post seems to be now about word definition. In every day conversation, OD has come to mean "partaking too much." bla bla bla. I totally get cringing at the usage of terms tho'. And we were warned - it is a rant.
If the point is, "cut the drama, you are scaring the straights," I hear you- and good luck with that!
I get irritated that 'nauseous' is used where 'nauseated' is correct (or was when I was a child...).
Sincerely,
An actual cunning linguist, BA.
Take an easy on me! No one likes the grammar police on a MS/forum LOL J/k
I went back and reread the rant and WOW, thank god I don't write for a living LOL
I appreciated this discussion because today, for the first time, I tried vaping, and I did experience some uncomfortable symptoms. I didn't panic, but I wondered what was going on, so it's nice to know I just overdid it. What happened is, I ordered 3 disposable e-cigs to try the flavors, and they arrived in the mail. So I puffed a little on one, then on another, practiced how to get some good smoke by taking a longer drag than I have to on analogs, etc. I didn't think I smoked all that much, and while I was playing with my new toys, over the course of a couple of hours, I didn't smoke any analogs. Then I went out to the grocery store, and I felt a bit weird -- sort of sleepy but also sort of jumpy, distracted in a weird way. I also started getting a mild headache. Of course first thing, I blamed the weird symptoms on the e-cigs, since that's the only unusual thing I consumed or exposed myself to. It worried me a little, but my solution was to come home and take a nap and then just stick with my analogs for the next while. Meanwhile, I'm here trying to find out what went on in my body and why. You guys answered that. I really didn't think I overdid it, but I must have, trying the different flavors, etc. I think maybe e-cigs are stronger than analogs, since if I took the same number of puffs on analogs, I wouldn't have felt these symptoms, though I might be coughing more. So, since it's harder to see how much you consume with an e-cig, how do you guys regulate yourselves? BTW, I ordered medium strength, since that seemed middle of the road when a newbie doesn't know what she's doing. I guess next time I'll order the low-nicotine e-cigs.
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