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Yep, notes. And labels-- label those bottles properly so you can link them back to your recipes/notes. Sometimes a mix doesn't turn out so good right away but with long steeping it becomes much better. By that time you may not be able to track the juice back to the recipe, especially if you made several variations at the same time.
It helps to keep notes on tasting.
What was good about it?
What wasn't good?
What changes might help in a new version?
It helps to keep notes on tasting.
What was good about it?
What wasn't good?
What changes might help in a new version?
Hey Pheisty, im new too, and i know youve commented on a few of my posts about how crappy my stuff is turning out -- hahahhahaaha. One thing that i have decided would help is that i was using pipettes and counting drops and stuff and then i measured with pipettes versus syringes (with just water in the bottles) and they came out WAY different. I would invest in some 3 ml or so syringes (like 25 cents at a drug store) so that you can get accurate measurements (if they arent already coming with your kit). Oh, also somebody gave me really good measuring advice about the flavorings, basically to not start off with too much (like i had been doing). She starts in the 5%ish range, i was starting in the 15 to 20 percent-ish range. I wouldnt go too high on the flavor to start with.
My one bit of advice would be to dowload and install eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator.
Yeah, for the first time i worry about -- well what if a cop were to come into my kitchen??
Muaaahhh girl, good luck! Let us know how it goes!
Muaaahhh girl, good luck! Let us know how it goes!
Bwwwaaahahaahahaaa!!! Yeah, my hubs already calls my juice, PVs, and various accessories my ".... Lab". Nice.
Thanks, hon! I certainly will.
I'm not familiar with the iPhone App, so I'll echo Hoosier's advice... keep good notes (unless the app saves your recipes!)
What Hoosier Said.That and wait about 2 days before trying a DIY mix.
oh Pheisty, i was looking for something else and i found this. It is part of something that was posted on this site and i didnt copy down who it was from so sorry for stealing (I had copied it onto a word document) -- anyway, i probably should have done the taste testing like this -- sounds like a great idea:
Now I will detail my method for testing flavors I have never used before. You’ll need the following: the flavor you are testing (duh), a dripper bottle of base, your test vial, paper towels, two pipettes, a clean atty, and a PV (duh again). Most of the time, I prefer my juice to be mixed at 80/20 PG to VG, so the dropper bottle full of base is just that, 80% PG, 20% VG. Feel free to mix your “testing base” bottle with whatever ratio you usually like. Sit down at a table or desk that doesn’t have a wooden top, or cover it with something (some of this stuff can actually eat the finish off of wood). OK, most of the time, a flavor will need to be mixed at concentrations above 5%, but it is always better to be on the safe side (because cleaning super strong flavors out of an atty is a PITA) so we’ll test it at 5% first. Put 1 drop of flavor in the test vial using one of the pipettes and set that pipette down next to the flavoring (that way you don’t end up using it for anything else but measuring that flavor until you wash it). Put 19 drops of the base in the vial. Mix it by shaking the vial. Now drip a few drops of the test batch in to the atty using the other pipette and vape until the atty goes a little dry. Drip a few more drops from the test vial into the atty and take a taste. That pull right there, that is pretty close to what that flavoring tastes like mixed at 5%. It won’t be exactly what the juice will taste like once you add nicotine, because nicotine will alter the flavor a little, but it is real close. Taste good? No? Ok, blow out your atty, drip some straight base in to it, blow that out, drip some more straight base in to it and cigar puff it on your PV a few times. Blow the atty out again….there…..you have a clean atty again. Wash out the test vial and the pipette you were using the drip the test juice. This time, use 1 drop of flavor and 9 drops of base. If that still isn’t strong enough, repeat the atty cleaning method and try again at 15% (3 drops flavor, 17 drops base). Eventually you’ll find exactly what floats your boat.
Now I will detail my method for testing flavors I have never used before. You’ll need the following: the flavor you are testing (duh), a dripper bottle of base, your test vial, paper towels, two pipettes, a clean atty, and a PV (duh again). Most of the time, I prefer my juice to be mixed at 80/20 PG to VG, so the dropper bottle full of base is just that, 80% PG, 20% VG. Feel free to mix your “testing base” bottle with whatever ratio you usually like. Sit down at a table or desk that doesn’t have a wooden top, or cover it with something (some of this stuff can actually eat the finish off of wood). OK, most of the time, a flavor will need to be mixed at concentrations above 5%, but it is always better to be on the safe side (because cleaning super strong flavors out of an atty is a PITA) so we’ll test it at 5% first. Put 1 drop of flavor in the test vial using one of the pipettes and set that pipette down next to the flavoring (that way you don’t end up using it for anything else but measuring that flavor until you wash it). Put 19 drops of the base in the vial. Mix it by shaking the vial. Now drip a few drops of the test batch in to the atty using the other pipette and vape until the atty goes a little dry. Drip a few more drops from the test vial into the atty and take a taste. That pull right there, that is pretty close to what that flavoring tastes like mixed at 5%. It won’t be exactly what the juice will taste like once you add nicotine, because nicotine will alter the flavor a little, but it is real close. Taste good? No? Ok, blow out your atty, drip some straight base in to it, blow that out, drip some more straight base in to it and cigar puff it on your PV a few times. Blow the atty out again….there…..you have a clean atty again. Wash out the test vial and the pipette you were using the drip the test juice. This time, use 1 drop of flavor and 9 drops of base. If that still isn’t strong enough, repeat the atty cleaning method and try again at 15% (3 drops flavor, 17 drops base). Eventually you’ll find exactly what floats your boat.
yup..notes....and I would try easy recipes first...maybe blending 2 flavors...til it comes easy for you...and..have fun..
I'm not familiar with the iPhone App, so I'll echo Hoosier's advice... keep good notes (unless the app saves your recipes!)
Yes, it actually does save your recipes! Pretty cool, eh? I'm anxious to try it.
That. Is. Awesome. Thanks for that! I hadn't seen it.
yup..notes....and I would try easy recipes first...maybe blending 2 flavors...til it comes easy for you...and..have fun..
Yep, that's what I'm going to try to do...although I have a tendency to go a little ADHD crazy, at times.
And waiting two days to try...well, that just isn't going to happen. I have zero patience. LOL I thought I read somewhere that if you put your concoction in a glass vial and let it sit in hot water for 15 minutes that will simulate the steeping process. Anyone know anything about that?
A 901 passthru with those tips that the vendors sell with the kits. Those prefill tips that you can wash out the awful flavor out of. That way you can do notes on the Mac while testing, mixxing,etc.
I also have a mac, but I don't have an iPhone, would the app download to the mac computer?
Unfortunately, no. I presume that it would work on the iPad, though...or an iTouch.
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