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Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Four

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MattB101

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Matt, mebbe u kin splain to me WHY THE .... plumbers insist on installing that idiotic chrome shutoff that looks cute until you need it? Of course it only looks cute if you get down on your hands n kneez to see it.
Easy place to put it and habit I guess. I replaced the valve that was there with a new style that's a lot easier. It's a ball valve that only takes a quarter turn. When pointing at the line to the toilet on, when pointing away off. It doesn't have any packing around the stem to leak either. One flip and it done. Pretty nice considering you'll probably mess with it a couple of times in your life! :lol:
 

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he, he ... we folks do chat a bunch. Since April 21, 2012 through Jan 4, 2015 @3:40pm Eastern time we made 63,895 posts. And this is just the 4 incarnations of the back porch.

Semi- ... I'll let you figure out the average posts per day. It's beyond my pay grade.

Ok - how many have read all 63,895 posts?
I have. :)
 

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I've always found the ball valves seep. Good nuff to shut off and change something but could be fun if you have to solder. Nuthin works like a gate valve.
Gate valves tend to break at the point where the shaft connects to the gate if used infrequently. Today's ball valves are much better than even a few years ago. Highly recommended. I replace every valve in the house with them as I get to it, when they start to need maintenance. Especially the main shut off for the house. Because it's not used very often it normally leaks as soon as you give it the first turn. Stem packing dries out leading to having to turn off at the meter and rip out the old valve or at least rebuild it to stop the leak. The new ball valves don't do that and turn like they're lubed with butter due to the seals being teflon.
 

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No, I mean if you have to solder something down the line. Nuff water seeping thru to make it a PITA. Gate is positive shut off. 20 years later. Ball is good. Gate is better. By muchly. IMO of course.
You right about seeping. I have never figured out how to get the water out if a verticle pipe so I can solder it without waiting forever for the Heat to boil away the excess water. I try to wick enought out of the pipe with a terry cloth towel but nah, that don't work! :lol::-x
 

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What's worse is when that type of value is used on the hot & cold sink feed lines. That hot line value is sure to seize up over time so you don't ever get a chance to use it even once. :mad:



he, he ... that' why we keep you women around ... pick out our mistakes and fix 'em.

(and thanks for cutting me some slack and calling it a typo and not just a dufus mistake.)



Mine came in ... forgot what I ordered ... it was like Christmas morning again. Surprise!
That's what they make channel lock pliers for. Just squirt it with a little 3 in 1 oil. Lets it soak then turn slowly with some big azz channel locks. Got to main shut off, go to hardware store, replace valve with a new style ball valve, ta-da problem solved! One thing I will throw out there that will probably draw argument. If it's a compression style connection to the pipe in the wall (copper) you can normally get away with leaving the nut and ferrel on the pipe and just replace the valve body. As long as the threads are the same. The ferrel is soft brass and can normally be used twice. That's good because once they're compressed the first time they are a true pain to get off the pipe. Specially when you be laying on your back up under the sink and can't really reach anything! :mad::-x:lol: PLUMBING IS NEVER EASY! Why do you think they put everything in awkward positions, it's because the fixtures weren't there when the valve was originally installed.
 

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Well where we are headed on our trip the temperature will range from a low of 70 to a high of 85 through the rest of the winter. It is the one part that is truly enjoyable about the trip. Right now I am sitting with a space heater to keep my one little corner of the house comfy. Soon I will be comfy all day - enjoying a cool ocean breeze in the morning and cool shaded trees when the heat of the day comes around...
When you planning on leaving? Of course, his many hurricanes you gonna have to dodge (none I hope :)) You're talking about going back to PI right?
 

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I think you are going to send me some rain in a few days.
Rained like pouring it out of a bucket early this morning. About 60 out right now but looking at 73 or so this afternoon. I DO NOT want to go back to Virginia! Looking at leaving here around January 20th.
 

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Afternoon at our house.
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That's just plain cool!
 

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yup

(glad we're still talking about old computers, cuz all that plumbing talk went way, way over my head :) )

i wire-wrapped my first computers. couldn't afford an automated paper-tape reader, so after spending an hour keying in the bootstrap on the 16 switches, i had to RUN (literally) the paper tape at a certain constant speed in order to load the OS of the day on a manual paper tape reader. (Usually Tiny Basic)

i taught my 2 year old daughter how to program...

10 ? "I love you daddy"
20 GOTO 10

she was enthralled...




Sadly, her love of computers didn't last long.

But, the indoctrination held up. She still loves me

:)
Still have my wire wrapping tool box. Squeeze gun, electric Gun, and lots of bits, strippers, etc.
 

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The first computers I worked on you had to key in the bootstrap loader which was a small machine language program that made the computer smart enough to read the program from a tape. Once the program was loaded I would set the instruction address register to the address of the start of the program in memory and hit run.

CPU's now have a set address in memory that they read and execute the code there upon startup from either an EEPROM or NOVRAM chip that does not forget but can be overwritten with new BIOS if needed.
We had two CP642B computers for the Naval Tactical Data System (NTDS) that you loaded that way on my second ship, my first was manual plots with no computers. They used an Extended Core Memory Unit (ECMU) as working memory to execute the programs. CP642s had ferrite bead memory. Almost every time we fired the main gun the program would crash. :shock:
 

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We had two CP642B computers for the Naval Tactical Data System (NTDS) that you loaded that way on my second ship, my first was manual plots with no computers. They used an Extended Core Memory Unit (ECMU) as working memory to execute the programs. CP642s had ferrite bead memory. Almost every time we fired the main gun the program would crash. :shock:
Yeah those I am referring to had Mag Core ram too. A blistering 8K of it.
 

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You right about seeping. I have never figured out how to get the water out if a verticle pipe so I can solder it without waiting forever for the Heat to boil away the excess water. I try to wick enought out of the pipe with a terry cloth towel but nah, that don't work! :lol::-x

An old plumber ... well I was young at the time ... so he was old ... and I wasn't ... wait I digress ... well he taught me a trick for this Matt. Push a ball of white bread into the pipe to plug it, it will absorb the water and keep it away from the solder joint. Then when pressure it put back on the line just dissolve and gets washed out the faucet.
 

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Yeah those I am referring to had Mag Core ram too. A blistering 8K of it.
Same machine probably, different name. Size of a refrigerator and had lights on the top 1 1/2 foot or so. They where the registers where you entered the bootstrap program.
 

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An old plumber ... well I was young at the time ... so he was old ... and I wasn't ... wait I digress ... well he taught me a trick for this Matt. Push a ball of white bread into the pipe to plug it, it will absorb the water and keep it away from the solder joint. Then when pressure it put back on the line just dissolve and gets washed out the faucet.
Make sure you take the aereator outta the faucet first. Turns into dough. I had forgotten that thanks.
 

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Same machine probably, different name. Size of a refrigerator and had lights on the top 1 1/2 foot or so. They where the registers where you entered the bootstrap program.
these fit in an 18 inch rack about the size of a fridge. And yes had a row of buttons along the top so set or read bits on. Run stop and different register buttons.
Were HP 2100 series Mini Computers.
 

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Make sure you take the aereator outta the faucet first. Turns into dough. I had forgotten that thanks.
Also leave a faucet open with no water in the line between your soldering point and the faucet. The heat generates steam/pressure which wants to keep blowing a tiny pin hole in your solder joint.
 
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