Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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Thanks PapaSloth and MIkeE3 , DavidOck and everyone

See I thought if your reg mod was v w then the circuitry took care of the voltage depending on your resistance and if it was a v v it took care of the wattage.
Starting to get the feeling people reading this will be thinking this guy has no clue :ohmy:

Absolutely not and if you've got all that memorized, you know far more than I do. I use a ProVari with a Davide. Don't need to know squat to vape, hence never retain this this information because I never get to put it into use. More of a do it, learn it person than a read it, retain type.

I'm positive someone already pointed you to the ProVape forum but if I'm wrong (and it happens a lot), here it is ProVape When the P3 becomes available somewhere, those guys will be the first to know about it. There a dedicated P3 thread there too http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/592747-official-provari-3-thread-p3.html It's only 183 pages long. :)
 

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Thanks PapaSloth and MIkeE3 , DavidOck and everyone

See I thought if your reg mod was v w then the circuitry took care of the voltage depending on your resistance and if it was a v v it took care of the wattage.
Starting to get the feeling people reading this will be thinking this guy has no clue :ohmy:
You're correct about that. VV controls wattage (and voltage). VW controls voltage (and wattage).

Oh, I like that idea a lot! El Whacko is 90 pounds.

Ruth, I forgot about the analog question. I call them, as most here do, cigarettes. I tried using the work analog a couple of times when I first got here and every time I felt the uncontrollable urge to go wash out my mouth with soap.
Seems that few vapers are neutral when it comes to using "analogs" as a synonym for cigarettes. I think the term is really clever, and I like it. The term I don't like is "stinkies". I don't hate cigarettes or smokers and I feel that if I use that term I'm looking down on people who still smoke.
 

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Just stopping in for a bit, work is taking up waaaay too much time. :(
I know the feeling. I'm getting online for fun about once a day lately.

I hate to admit it but I would vape away 2200 mah is about 4 or 5 hours. Tend to chain vape a lot.
heh - Don't sweat it. I'm the same way. 2200 mah... about 4 to 6 hours for me depending on weather a dust mote falls in the forest. :D

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.
I use both analogue and cigarette interchangeably either way people know what you are saying.
sorry to hear about your brother, it's hard loosing someone too soon.

Welcome to the porch! pull up a rocker and sit a spell!
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You're correct about that. VV controls wattage (and voltage). VW controls voltage (and wattage).

Seems that few vapers are neutral when it comes to using "analogs" as a synonym for cigarettes. I think the term is really clever, and I like it. The term I don't like is "stinkies". I don't hate cigarettes or smokers and I feel that if I use that term I'm looking down on people who still smoke.

I personally like to call em stinkies!

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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You're correct about that. VV controls wattage (and voltage). VW controls voltage (and wattage).

Seems that few vapers are neutral when it comes to using "analogs" as a synonym for cigarettes. I think the term is really clever, and I like it. The term I don't like is "stinkies". I don't hate cigarettes or smokers and I feel that if I use that term I'm looking down on people who still smoke.

Not looking down on smokers, just calling them what they are. Since I quit I can literally smell one a block away. There is a guy at the other end of the cul de sac that smokes on his porch and I can usually smell it when I walk out of the house

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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Not looking down on smokers, just calling them what they are. Since I quit I can literally smell one a block away. There is a guy at the other end of the cul de sac that smokes on his porch and I can usually smell it when I walk out of the house.
My sense of smell has improved a lot but not nearly enough for cigarette smoke smell to be objectionable. I've been in a vehicle with someone who's smoking and I don't notice it. I've stood on a train platform, vaping while surrounded by smokers, and not noticed.

I didn't want people to think of me as someone who stank when I smoked, even if I did stink, so I'm unable to think of others that way.

A short story: I used to do a fair amount of selling on Ebay. I sold some new socks one time that had been sitting around my house for a couple years but never worn. They weren't in plastic, though. The buyer complained to me that they smelled of smoke. After that, I always stated in my ads that the item had been stored in the home of a heavy smoker. Oh, and cats too. I made great efforts to vacuum any cat hair from an item but said in my ads that the item came from a multiple-cat home.
 
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Better airflow through the coil as air is passing thru the center. The idea is to make the I.D. of the coil the same size as the air hole of the atty. Better airflow = better vapor and flavor. ....Yay! Nice! I'm glad its worked out for you. What are you using for wicking?

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.
Yep. I just rebuilt it. Used my standard mandrel-- back-calculated to 2mm, and standard coil. 1.6Ω. Attached to the block at the bottom this time, and packed the rayon tight. Did not remove the mandrel until the rayon was in. Had to tighten up the draw. No leaks, no problems. I am going to like this. My Russian is dedicated to Earl Gray.

Thanks, Mike.
 

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Anyone have problems building on the Patriot RDA? Man the post holes are so small I can only get one coil through the middle post. I don't think running a single coil is all that bad but I prefer to use dual coils, and I was able to get it (kinda) working but now I know one side isn't firing all that well. It's firing but not so great.

Tried a sleeper coil last night, got it built pretty good, however I couldn't get them to fire equally. Also, it was hard as ....... to wrap that second coil after threading the first one through. I'll have to look up some videos I suppose.
 

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You're correct about that. VV controls wattage (and voltage). VW controls voltage (and wattage).

bigs - I think what you said is a bit misleading.

A VV device only control's voltage. You set the device to a particular voltage and that's all the device controls. The regulator will put out that voltage regardless the resistance of the coil. The power lever (watts) will be different at the set voltage depending on the resistance of your coil.

A VW device will 'read' the resistance of your coil and the regulator will provide the proper voltage so the power lever (watts) matches what you set the watt level to on the device.

So the VW device is actually controlling voltage to match the power level (watts) the device is set to regardless the coil resistance.

The VV device's regulator is only controlling output voltage to the set voltage. The power level (watts) varies depending on the coil resistance.
 

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bigs - I think what you said is a bit misleading.

A VV device only control's voltage. You set the device to a particular voltage and that's all the device controls. The regulator will put out that voltage regardless the resistance of the coil. The power lever (watts) will be different at the set voltage depending on the resistance of your coil.

A VW device will 'read' the resistance of your coil and the regulator will provide the proper voltage so the power lever (watts) matches what you set the watt level to on the device.

So the VW device is actually controlling voltage to match the power level (watts) the device is set to regardless the coil resistance.

The VV device's regulator is only controlling output voltage to the set voltage. The power level (watts) varies depending on the coil resistance.
I think that I have a rudimentary understanding of the difference between VV and VW. I do appreciate VW and use it rather than VV in any device that offers a choice.

A VV device varies wattage to match the volts that the user has set. A VW device varies volts to match the wattage that the user has set.

Guess I've been feeling argumentative for a couple of days (my back is bothering me a lot), but I don't think my statement was misleading.
 

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I think that I have a rudimentary understanding of the difference between VV and VW. I do appreciate VW and use it rather than VV in any device that offers a choice.

A VV device varies wattage to match the volts that the user has set. A VW device varies volts to match the wattage that the user has set.

Guess I've been feeling argumentative for a couple of days (my back is bothering me a lot), but I don't think my statement was misleading.

The current production Provari's are VV devices. The 'device' does not vary wattage. The 'device' will regulate the voltage output to the setting made by the user.

Wattage will depend on the resistance of the coil and the properties of electricity according to Ohms Law. It (watts) will not be regulated/controlled by the 'device'.
 

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Well I ordered my 6 samples from LKA today.
Plush, Peach Impediment, PYMP, 3 Best Jollys, Fruit Bat Delight, and Passionate Tango.

I have a feeling of which ones I will like the best, but has anyone tried any of those? REAL low on juice, can anyone recommend any vendors right now with some specials/good shipping prices? Trying to open up my realm of juices.

I'd think you probably have a B&M vape shop around you to get some juice to hold you until you can get an order in the mail. Many of those shops have tasting bars where you could sample flavors. Sometimes it's surprising to find you like some flavors that you wouldn't have thought possible. Keep in mind that you should vape a tank or 2 before buying a large quantity. Gotta give your tastebuds a chance to catch up, especially when you're starting out. Your sense of smell and taste will change after getting away from cigarettes.

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

Welcome Redruth! Glad to have you! We all remember what it was like to start out. We may be old, but those days weren't that long ago!! I've learned a lot in 3 years and am still learning, and I clearly remember how excited I felt realizing that it really was possible to not smoke!! It only gets better.

So sorry to hear about your brother. Maybe if we'd known more about vaping years ago...
 

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A massive understatement is "surprising to find some flavors you wouldn't have thot possible", Janet.

Even being a chocoholic, just the thot of vaping chocolate was stomach turning. But somehow got stuck trying one. Got hooked. On the other hand, tried quite a few different brands and they were awful. Still using the original.

And as far as others... not a strawberry fan. Found more than one good one. Pina colada? ewwe. But... not bad either. :)

Thing is I have a gajillion bottles on the shelf that suck. Love cherry. Haven't found even one I like. Pretty much gave up looking for that flavor.

Bottom line is, if you can finally come across that "magic" flavor, you'll never smoke again.
 

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I'd think you probably have a B&M vape shop around you to get some juice to hold you until you can get an order in the mail. Many of those shops have tasting bars where you could sample flavors. Sometimes it's surprising to find you like some flavors that you wouldn't have thought possible. Keep in mind that you should vape a tank or 2 before buying a large quantity. Gotta give your tastebuds a chance to catch up, especially when you're starting out. Your sense of smell and taste will change after getting away from cigarettes.

Yeah I always go to a B&M if I need to wait on vape mail. Funny you said that cuz I went last night... got "Rise" from Ruthless. (Space Jam makes Ruthless/Clouds of Hope) and it's great. Tried some Cereal Killer last night, they only had 30mL bottles which is entirely too much for me, however I loved it. They had people coming in to buy 2+ because its the only flavor that company makes (I think they may have just added a pumpkin one) and it is quite good. Just not something for my ADV.
 

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My sense of smell has improved a lot but not nearly enough for cigarette smoke smell to be objectionable. I've been in a vehicle with someone who's smoking and I don't notice it. I've stood on a train platform, vaping while surrounded by smokers, and not noticed.

I didn't want people to think of me as someone who stank when I smoked, even if I did stink, so I'm unable to think of others that way.

A short story: I used to do a fair amount of selling on Ebay. I sold some new socks one time that had been sitting around my house for a couple years but never worn. They weren't in plastic, though. The buyer complained to me that they smelled of smoke. After that, I always stated in my ads that the item had been stored in the home of a heavy smoker. Oh, and cats too. I made great efforts to vacuum any cat hair from an item but said in my ads that the item came from a multiple-cat home.

Don't get me wrong. I don't look down on smokers. That would be really hypocritical as I smoked for 40 years and like most of us am intimately familiar with the pain of quitting. Just commenting that it sure does smell strong in my mind. Mostly bad these days. Sometimes however it still smells good, or at least triggers good memories.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 
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A massive understatement is "surprising to find some flavors you wouldn't have thot possible", Janet.

Even being a chocoholic, just the thot of vaping chocolate was stomach turning. But somehow got stuck trying one. Got hooked. On the other hand, tried quite a few different brands and they were awful. Still using the original.

And as far as others... not a strawberry fan. Found more than one good one. Pina colada? ewwe. But... not bad either. :)

Thing is I have a gajillion bottles on the shelf that suck. Love cherry. Haven't found even one I like. Pretty much gave up looking for that flavor.

Bottom line is, if you can finally come across that "magic" flavor, you'll never smoke again.

Gary, Speaking of cherry, I am with you. Haven't found one I can vape for more than a minute. Always seem way too strong and tend to linger for quite a while on the old taste buds. Wish I could find a nice crisp bright cherry but most of the ones I have found taste like cough drops.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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Thanks PapaSloth and MIkeE3 , DavidOck and everyone

See I thought if your reg mod was v w then the circuitry took care of the voltage depending on your resistance and if it was a v v it took care of the wattage.
Starting to get the feeling people reading this will be thinking this guy has no clue :ohmy:

The current production Provari's are VV devices. The 'device' does not vary wattage. The 'device' will regulate the voltage output to the setting made by the user.

Wattage will depend on the resistance of the coil and the properties of electricity according to Ohms Law. It (watts) will not be regulated/controlled by the 'device'.

All right, how about this?: a device cannot be set to both wattage and voltage. Whichever is set, the other is determined by Ohm's Law in conjunction with the resistance of the atomizer. With a specific resistance, a VV device set to a specific voltage will also have an invariable wattage. With a specific resistance, a VW device set to a specific wattage will also have an invariable voltage.
 

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Phew just caught up on the last 3 pages. Been gone for awhile to go to sis in laws memorial. About a week.Did want to say about the EH Pro Kayfun Lite plus V@ 2 holer clone that while I was not able to line up the center pin so I could see through it it still vapes very well. The other thing I've noticed is if you try to open the air screws much beyond flush to the bottom I can't get it to make contact with the mod tried on the PV and the MVP2. The screws hit the ring that you screw into. Like I said though tighter draw but doesn't flood so I am still happy.
 

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Thing is I have a gajillion bottles on the shelf that suck. Love cherry. Haven't found even one I like. Pretty much gave up looking for that flavor.

Bottom line is, if you can finally come across that "magic" flavor, you'll never smoke again.
Hear! Hear!

The flavor I can't find is a coffee flavor that actually tastes like coffee. FA Coffee Espresso comes closest.

I like TFA Maraschino Cherry. MBV Maraschino Cherry is OK. My next batch I'll be trying MBV Black Cherry for the first time so I don't yet know if it's good.

All of the TFA chocolate flavorings taste good to me but I have to add sweetener with any of them.

I still have about 15 ml of the Apollo Classic Menthol Tobacco that I started with. It doesn't compare well with my DIY or even with other store-bought menthol/tobacco juices but it was good enough to set me on the vaping road.
 
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