Nah. Just keep an eye on them and don't expect them to perform as well as the real thing. Probably won't hold a charge as long nor last as long.
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Nah. Just keep an eye on them and don't expect them to perform as well as the real thing. Probably won't hold a charge as long nor last as long.
Here's something to think about ....may be true and may not be ..need to experiment
From someone else ..........
"Here's a tip that everyone should remember.......When mixing flavors, ... A+B=C not A+B=AB.
A lot of times when first starting to DIY you try to mix apple and cherry to make apple cherry, but in reality you are making a total new flavor which consist of apple and cherry....
In order to make a real apple cherry you would have to mix a standalone apple with a standalone cherry......
When you mix straight flavor concentrates the flavor notes in one will start to affect the flavor notes in another when it starts to mature overtime (steeps)."
The INTERACTION between two flavors result in NEW flavor.
If you mix a fully steeped single flavor (no nic) with another fully steeped single flavor (no nic), you will have a mix consisting of 2 flavors that will stay themselves.
For example a apple/cherry mix. You will only have to figure out how much of one compared to the other to mix for the taste you are looking for.
While on the other hand when you mix flavor concentrates together and add your VG/NIC/PG the flavor molecules will start to fight for occupation within the carrier molecules (PG/VG) and once all the space is taken up over time the final result will be a new flavor instead of apple/cherry
You will have a (insert name) flavor that is made up of apple and cherry.
For a ref look here: http://typeandimage.blogspot.com/2010/11/map-flavor.html
This shows how one flavor is made up of 10 types of molecules, remember this is how artificial flavors are made.
So when you mix the concentrates together and let steep (heat, etc) the 10 types all change and begin to make a new flavor cause the flavor profile changes to something else.
If you are a shake and vape type of person you can mix, shake and vape and it will taste like what you were trying to accomplish.
Now as the mix sits for awhile, the flavor profile will change and it will become different or maybe even unvapeable.
Thats why when following recipes from people in the forums you have to know if they are shake and vapers or steepers because a shake and vape recipe will not taste like what the shake and vape person intended if you steep it....
So you can see from the link that I gave you that these artificial flavors are made with molecules instead of the actual flavors, so don't limit yourself thinking of flavors as real....meaning your flavors may sound like they shouldn't compliment each other like cola and bacon w/ lemon but they just might because really you are manipulating molecules to form a taste.
So don't limit yourself, remember we are working mostly with artificial flavors, just mix, try, and try again
You may find that several recipes that tasted great when mixed at 3ml and vaped fresh were great, but making a larger batch and coming back to it a week later or longer... not so much.
Flavor molecules recompose from individually bound molecules into a new composition of bound molecules, that might explain this phenomenon.
Have you ever baked cookies?
They smell and taste fantastic once they are made, right? But imagine if they sat for a while.. what would happen?
The chemicals we blend into flavored juices do the same.. they change.."
I found the article intriguing, since it's true we are working with molecules, and not real flavors ... that changes everything.
I've been thinking as if I were "in the kitchen", and this would put it "in the lab", where there is chemical interaction taking place
Like I said earlier. Molecular interaction. Valances and such.
It does. The nice thing about lithium ion is no memory so you can charge them whenever you want. The bad thing is if you discharge them too much you kill em. I guess those who take them out before the regulated device cuts off are just playing it safe. Most devices (regulated NOT mechanicals) cut off at around 3.2 volts well above the batteries lower limit of around 2.5 volts. It's one of the built in "safety" features of the modern mod device.
Thats what I was thinking or counting on - These devices doing the thinking for me - I got coils and wicks and liquids to think about.
- I got coils and wicks and liquids to think about.
It's UNregulated mods that you have to watch the battery level on. I wouldn't worry about the regulated mods.
If I am going to leave the house, I take a look at my battery level. If it is below 50%, I put a fresh one in. If I notice that my vape is getting a bit thin, that is one of the first things I check. Waiting until it says "low v" may not always be convenient.
When this sigelei mod gets here taking two batteries - I was going to use two batteries in it then when it says they need recharging or stops firing what ever it does go and charge those batteries and put two other ones in.
Keep the batteries in pairs.
Keep the batteries in pairs.
Not getting much flavour today more like licking sand paper.
Not to worry though
Not to worry though
I agree with what a few others have said - use the batteries, but don't expect as much out of them. I will add one thing - if they start getting warm with use, that means you're discharging them faster than they can keep up with, so stop using them or use them at a lower power level. Cool battery = good, warm battery = bad, bad, bad. That's true for "real" batteries as well as fakes.
Yes, your regulated mod will cut off when the battery voltage gets too low. The less you drain your battery, the longer its total life, so it doesn't hurt to remove and recharge your batteries even before the mod says they're too low. I do the same thing 0mg does - I swap in a fresh set of batteries every morning, or whenever the vapor production seems to start getting lower.
See with me computer here I was or used to think well I'll drain the battery right down so that each time i charge it there is new energy being put into the battery instead of some energy always staying in there - Well sort of makes sense to me albeit may have no factual basis.
Debate on whether or not to use computer phone batteries until empty or recharge before empty still continues in some forums.
My phone from two years ago I always ran flat and it was ok with battery and brother runs the iPad until flat and its great with battery life.
This new phone i take to 2% most times just to see how it goes and so far after three months the battery is very good.
Debate on whether or not to use computer phone batteries until empty or recharge before empty still continues in some forums.
My phone from two years ago I always ran flat and it was ok with battery and brother runs the iPad until flat and its great with battery life.
This new phone i take to 2% most times just to see how it goes and so far after three months the battery is very good.
How to prolong lithium ion battery longevity
The answer is, that the less you discharge your lithium ion batteries, the longer they last. Most batteries are rated assuming they'll be fully discharged, and they're rated for 300-500 charging cycles. However, if you only discharge your batteries half way, they're good for 1200 - 1500 charging cycles, which is more than double. So, you end up getting more total use out of them if you only discharge them half way.
Here's the actual math that everyone on here seems to hate
Assume that your battery is rated for 3000mAh (3Ah) and that you discharge it all the way. You'll get 300-500 cycles out of it, 3Ah times 300-500 cycles, so that's a total 900-1500Ah. Now, if you only discharge them half way, you'll get 1.5Ah on each charge, times 1200-1500 cycles, which is 1800-2250Ah. So, by half draining your batteries, you end up getting somewhere between 1.7x - 2x as much use out of them.
Say to generalise if thats possible - How long would you expect batteries to last in mods - Going by your experience ?
You know my mums mobile phone is ten years old and still going.
You know my mums mobile phone is ten years old and still going.
It depends on how heavy a vaper you are, and how much current you're drawing. I go through most of a 3500mAh 26650 battery charge each day. I expect to get around 500 charges off of the battery before it has to be retired, so each battery should last me between 1 and 2 years (if I used it every day, instead of rotating my batteries. I have 9 good batteries right now, so I expect to have enough batteries until around 2025.
Cell phones, laptops, etc. batteries last a long time because you don't generally need to fully recharge them each day. My iPad holds a charge for about a week with the (small) level of use it gets (I use it to read in bed every night, but only for 1/2 hr to 2 hrs each night). So, at 500 charges, that's around 10 years.
I think this istick with its 2200mah lasted me 4 days. 1.5Ω 11-12 watts.
If your so inclined I enjoy Wilbur Smith books.
My first notebook computers battery went to trash because I hardly ever used it on battery power.
Four batteries each 2500 so 5000 in the mod at a time , keep the pairs together , rotate the two pairs.
If you're getting 4 days off a charge, and you have 2 sets of batteries, assuming 500 charging cycles, that's 4000 total days. Should be good for around 11 years. I think as the batteries wear, they'll start to not last for the full 4 days though, so you probably really only have about 5 or 6 years of expected lifetime.
Older battery technologies had "memory", so it was important to fully charge & discharge (otherwise they wouldn't).
Li Ion batteries do not have memory, so it make no difference. BUT, you NEVER want to over discharge a Li Ion battery. So you are better off swapping them out at 3.5v than you would be to allow them to go below 2.9v.
With +/- 400 charge cycles, you will probably replace batteries because you are sick of looking at the darn things before they actually need replacing anyway.
Li Ion batteries do not have memory, so it make no difference. BUT, you NEVER want to over discharge a Li Ion battery. So you are better off swapping them out at 3.5v than you would be to allow them to go below 2.9v.
With +/- 400 charge cycles, you will probably replace batteries because you are sick of looking at the darn things before they actually need replacing anyway.
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