Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

[Vape?]

Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

 

[LittleBird]

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Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

Anything 1.0 and over will be fine. As you said, get something she stocks. Most mfg's make coils in different ohms - 1.2, 1.5, 1.8 - so perhaps try a few and see which you prefer.

 

[DaveP]

My gripe with governmental interference in vaping is simple. Those who quit smoking through vaping are very likely to live a long and healthier life because of their switch to vaping. What do they want us to do ... go back to cigarettes so they can shore up the profits of tobacco companies and allow them to pay out the last 7 years of tobacco tax settlements?

That's ludicrous! They aren't interested in saving lives. State governments are just afraid that they will lose revenue that's now needed to pay back the payday loans they made against future tobacco tax payments.

I don't think their intentions are to make our lives safer. If that were the case, they'd run tobacco companies out of business and make friends with the vaping industry.

 

[DaveP]

They will ban any equipment, devices & juice not under the control of BT, &/or BP. Vaping will be limited to those 2 sources, with only tobacco or menthol, wintergreen flavors allowed. Most of what has worked to keep people off of smoking will be banned, unless you diy & jave already stocked your nic & devices. And they may ban the devices except for cigalikes.

Sounds like the fireworks ban in Ga over most of my lifetime. We had to go to Alabama or Florida to get them. After 60 years of the ban Ga finally legalized fireworks again and there's fireworks stores all over that sell the complete line of incendiary devices to anyone 18 and over.

I've already proven that I can vape 3mg or 0mg juice. I'd don't care for strongly flavored juices, anyway. 0mg is kind of blah, so I vape 3mg or 6mg.

I still think that the reason there's no official testing and governmental blessing for vaping is the tax revenue. Why don't they just slap a reasonable tax on it and be done with it? When the Tobacco Tax settlement runs out in 2023 they can transition to vape juice. Thing is, they know that vaping is so much safer than smoking that they won't be able to get health and sin tax taxes passed to continue receiving huge revenues like the Tobacco Tax Settlement. Party's over big government!

 

[DaveP]

Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

Most people build coils using 26ga or 28ga wire. Some like 32ga. The resistance target determines wire size because the more turns you make in a given coil size, the higher the resistance. If you choose 28ga on a 3mm coil, 8 turns will give you something close to 2 ohms. If you wind a 2.5mm coil you can put 10 turns for about the same resistance. I think I get better flavor from a 2.5mm coil because more turns contact a longer length of the wicking.

Take a look at Steam Engine for coil calculations. You can pick the wire type. Look at the heat flux number when you compare two different coils. Higher is better with heat flux. You can also select dual or single coil.

If Amazon ships to your country, check them. 100' of 315L stainless steel is $7.99 at Amazon and shipping costs are negligible for the size and weight . You can probably find it in your country. It's used for flower arranging and other crafts.

Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[Kenna]

Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

Most devices & premade coils are made in China, no matter who you purchase them from. You can buy a clone tank, but you should try to get authentic coils. Both are usually available from Chinese vendors. I build my own coils, so I can use clone rebuildable tanks but have total control over the metal in the coil, & the material used in my wicks. Since you are not using temperature control you need Kanthall coils. You could use stainless steel but that is a much lower resistance coil & has to be built too big to get to the level uou need. Just stick with Kanthall coils at about 1.5 or 1.6. Most premade coils are offered in that range. It's a good mid range coil that tolerates a good range of watts or volts to give you room to adjust for that flavor of your juices. Higher ohm coils will force you to a lower power range & flavor & vapor production will not meet what you've described wanting. Your friend will be able to point you to popular, readily available tanks & mods that you can get just about anywhere. Just tell her you want about a 1.5 ohm coil, & a regulated device.
All of my devices are regulated except for 2 mechs in my Vapocolypse box. I have replaceable battery devices, as well as some disposables with permanent, onboard batteries that are small, & I use those for running errands since they are more purse or pocket friendly. I am going to get a squonker or 2, also. I buy American made mods that I can easily send for repair or updating if they need it. My favorite has a lifetime warranty. Whoop!

 

[Kenna]

Sounds like the fireworks ban in Ga over most of my lifetime. We had to go to Alabama or Florida to get them. After 60 years of the ban Ga finally legalized fireworks again and there's fireworks stores all over that sell the complete line of incendiary devices to anyone 18 and over.

I've already proven that I can vape 3mg or 0mg juice. I'd don't care for strongly flavored juices, anyway. 0mg is kind of blah, so I vape 3mg or 6mg.

I still think that the reason there's no official testing and governmental blessing for vaping is the tax revenue. Why don't they just slap a reasonable tax on it and be done with it? When the Tobacco Tax settlement runs out in 2023 they can transition to vape juice. Thing is, they know that vaping is so much safer than smoking that they won't be able to get health and sin tax taxes passed to continue receiving huge revenues like the Tobacco Tax Settlement. Party's over big government!

There is no reason for some States to charge taxes related to the Tobacco Settlement. Texas took an up front, lump sum payment. There was no borrowing against future payments. My State will have to justify the whole thing differently.

 

[2legsshrt]

Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

Not sure if you are talking about heads or bare coils as in wrap your own, at any rate Kanthal is the easiest to get and easiest to use whether wrapping your own or buy pre built coils or heads. IMO 1.5 ohm is just right. I used that for a couple of years.

 

[2legsshrt]

Correction:
All of the nicotine that any of us has ever used was extracted from actual tobacco. Extraction from tobacco is the only economically feasible way to do it. I don't know if there's any such thing as synthetic nicotine, but if there is, it is not something that any of us have ever used because it would be prohibitively expensive to produce. When you speak of NET, you're talking about non-nicotine components of tobacco.

Correct AGAIN.

 

[2legsshrt]

Endless questions, but what size coil to start if I'm steering clear of sub ohm? What's the difference, and now they've got different wire metals. I just need something that she keeps back stock in or I can get elsewhere without importing.
As to the other about the prohibitive laws, there are uk companies that ship internationally( for a fee). I have to do it every single time I order. New Zealand as well, and Asia , but I'd be leery of quality control with the last.

Mechs are the most dangerous of the bunch IMO but like I was saying about that Endura it is just one button and push. It is regulated to 14 watts which is just right for the atomizer it comes with with a 1.5 ohm head plus it give you protection. It's a great place to start for 30 bucks. Once you get the hang of that then venture out into the world of Variable Wattage and Atomizer air flow. With the Endura you can't go wrong with a Mech you stand the chance of burning your cotton or whatever kind of wick because you are getting whatever the voltage your battery is at. When they are fully charged its usually around 4.1 as they get used that falls and so does the vape on a mech.

 

[2legsshrt]

The different metals you are talking about some like Kanthal, SS, Nichrome you can use with Variable Wattage others like Nickel, Titanium, NiFe should be used with a Temperature Control device. Like I was saying if you just want something to push a button and vape the Endura is the way to go but if you are bound and determined to try something else a VTCmini is a good choice and for an atomizer if you want to have something that you can try different things with the Kanger SubTank mini is a good one. You can either put pre built coils in it or use the prebuilt heads in it. Then you will need batteries and a charger wire and cotton and a coilmaster. I still think you would be really satisfied with the Endura to start and not spend a lot of money. I have about $1700 tied up in mods and $250 in batteries probably $150 in chargers and $500 in atomizers but I've been doing this for over 7 years.

 

[2legsshrt]

Plus there are several places right there in Au to order it from. I saw the VTCmini at Eciggity.com for $40 and they are having a 30% off sale on everything besides. So that would make it 28bucks.

 

[Kenna]

Mechs are the most dangerous of the bunch IMO but like I was saying about that Endura it is just one button and push. It is regulated to 14 watts which is just right for the atomizer it comes with with a 1.5 ohm head plus it give you protection. It's a great place to start for 30 bucks. Once you get the hang of that then venture out into the world of Variable Wattage and Atomizer air flow. With the Endura you can't go wrong with a Mech you stand the chance of burning your cotton or whatever kind of wick because you are getting whatever the voltage your battery is at. When they are fully charged its usually around 4.1 as they get used that falls and so does the vape on a mech.

That's similar to what she has now. She needs vv/vw to have some room to grow since she has issues getting products.

 

[Vape?]

Most devices & premade coils are made in China, no matter who you purchase them from. You can buy a clone tank, but you should try to get authentic coils. Both are usually available from Chinese vendors. I build my own coils, so I can use clone rebuildable tanks but have total control over the metal in the coil, & the material used in my wicks. Since you are not using temperature control you need Kanthall coils. You could use stainless steel but that is a much lower resistance coil & has to be built too big to get to the level uou need. Just stick with Kanthall coils at about 1.5 or 1.6. Most premade coils are offered in that range. It's a good mid range coil that tolerates a good range of watts or volts to give you room to adjust for that flavor of your juices. Higher ohm coils will force you to a lower power range & flavor & vapor production will not meet what you've described wanting. Your friend will be able to point you to popular, readily available tanks & mods that you can get just about anywhere. Just tell her you want about a 1.5 ohm coil, & a regulated device.
All of my devices are regulated except for 2 mechs in my Vapocolypse box. I have replaceable battery devices, as well as some disposables with permanent, onboard batteries that are small, & I use those for running errands since they are more purse or pocket friendly. I am going to get a squonker or 2, also. I buy American made mods that I can easily send for repair or updating if they need it. My favorite has a lifetime warranty. Whoop![/QUOTE

 

[Vape?]

Oops,lol. I know she just got a shipment, so I'll let her guide me. Within reason. 1.5 it is and regulated. At least I have a starting point. I've got 5 non adjustable vaporfi ( they say it somehow does it all by itself) subohm, so this purchase will have to hold me for a while. I've only been vaping 10 weeks. My husband stocked me up, so I wouldn't be tempted to smoke if my original bit the dust. But he just duplicated my original x4.
I wouldn't attempt diy on a battery or coil. No knowledge base, no teacher. The trick will be making sure I can get replacement pre made atomizers from a couple of sources here.
Was just bad luck, that I started on the subohm vaporfi. Tanks getting white hot can't be right. So I rotate between 2 or 3 so they can cool off. Two hours drive to do a face to face transaction. All els out of state or only on line. She's got the ne box , kanger, smok, and some others, I'll find one that suits.

 

[2legsshrt]

Wow I had to go look at VaporFi. They must be pretty proud of their stuff by the prices they charge. Just out of curiosity which mod did you get 4 of?

 

[2legsshrt]

I see that the one they call the Volt tank is really a Kanger Subtank Mini but $30 more. Looks exactly the same inside and out.

 

[Vape?]

Most people build coils using 26ga or 28ga wire. Some like 32ga. The resistance target determines wire size because the more turns you make in a given coil size, the higher the resistance. If you choose 3mm 8 turns will give you something close to 2 ohms. If you wind a 2.5mm coil you can put 10 turns for about the same resistance. I think I get better flavor from a 2.5mm coil because more turns contact a longer length of the wicking.

Take a look at Steam Engine for coil calculations. You can pick the wire type. Look at the heat flux number when you compare two different coils. Higher is better with heat flux. You can also select dual or single coil.

If Amazon ships to your country, check them. 100' of 315L stainless steel is $7.99 at Amazon and shipping costs are negligible for the size and weight . You can probably find it in your country. It's used for flower arranging and other crafts.

Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

I wouldn't have a clue how to coil, and not really inclined. Not even e liquid mixing, although I could if I bought the supplies. At ten weeks in, I'm still trying to find flavours that I like, and I'm almost 99% sure that me fiddling with batteries or coils would not have good results. Can't follow on you tube, and have 0 vaping friends and acquaintances. My interest began with a need to quit smoking, my lungs are damaged.
Shipping costs always go up for international, even at Amazon . I've tried doing my Christmas shopping that way, things cost a lot less back home, but shipping negates any savings. Thanks for looking, though! I've found 6 actual shops, not where I live, unfortunately, and 10 or 12 online suppliers.

 

[Vape?]

Wow I had to go look at VaporFi. They must be pretty proud of their stuff by the prices they charge. Just out of curiosity which mod did you get 4 of?

I've got 3 edge models and 2 vice models.

 

[2legsshrt]

Just watched the video and it is the STM with the old style RBA deck. Even the boxing is the same.