Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

[Wolfenstark]

I think at first Im just going to play around with the DIY liquids.

Though if I was to do a liquid with all VG - as I have a small bottle of VG , what if any changes do you need to make with builds/wicks ?

50/50 mix is the most vg in a liquid I've used. Read about it being thicker , harder to wick , coils gunking.

Are these mountains or mole hills ?

 

[3mg Meniere]

Never tried anything higher than 50% vg.

 

[mekc57]

My favorite chocolate juice is a chocolate milkshake. vape it daily!

Chocolate Milk Shake
Also all TFA

Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - 8%
Cotton Candy - 6%
Milk Chocolate - 5%
Sweet Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 3%
Double Chocolate - 2%
Butter - 2%

 

[Wolfenstark]

So thats 30% flavour ,,,,, So 100ml batch would have 30ml of flavour ?

Have a couple of recipes I've noticed and their flavours also are 30-31%

Yet in this list of TFA flavour % for flavours Most of the suggestions are 5%-15% - for individual flavours.

So the over all % of flavour can be higher but those are the recommendations for the % of the individual flavours ?

 

[Semiretired]

I think at first Im just going to play around with the DIY liquids.

Though if I was to do a liquid with all VG - as I have a small bottle of VG , what if any changes do you need to make with builds/wicks ?

50/50 mix is the most vg in a liquid I've used. Read about it being thicker , harder to wick , coils gunking.

Are these mountains or mole hills ?

Vaping with VG all depends on numerous parameters - Type/Size wick you are using, heavy/moderate/light vaping (do you take a few seconds in between vapes), voltage/watts, etc. Many also thin it with water... Especially the individuals that are PG intolerant...

 

[bigbells]

I bought some 100% VG juice in flavors that were sheer perfection when dripped. Problem is, I don't drip very often; I prefer the simplicity of tanks. The juice isn't very good in my Nautilus tank (P3 at volts of 4.2, 4.4 and 4.8), and it gurgles like crazy. Short of dripping, does anyone have any ideas? Thin it? Different voltage? Wait for the KFL+, and hope that it truly does solve every problem short of world hunger? Thanks, all!

PS - Sorry for dbl post

Came in here for someone to kick my .... for me. Made a post in new members forum and should of posted it here, I think. Not sure where to post rants raves or personal stuff in. I feel so stupid at times! Kick me in the right direction.

So thats 30% flavour ,,,,, So 100ml batch would have 30ml of flavour ?

Have a couple of recipes I've noticed and their flavours also are 30-31%

Yet in this list of TFA flavour % for flavours Most of the suggestions are 5%-15% - for individual flavours.

So the over all % of flavour can be higher but those are the recommendations for the % of the individual flavours ?

30% does not seem entirely unreasonable to me for total of TFA flavorings, although my personal preferences would tend lower, in the 15-20% range. I tend to like 20% with MBV flavorings, 15% with TFA flavorings, and 10% with FA flavorings. Tobacco and coffee flavorings tend to reduce those flavoring percentages, regardless of manufacturer.

I likewise do not go below 50% PG when making joose.

 

[mekc57]

So thats 30% flavour ,,,,, So 100ml batch would have 30ml of flavour ?

Have a couple of recipes I've noticed and their flavours also are 30-31%

Yet in this list of TFA flavour % for flavours Most of the suggestions are 5%-15% - for individual flavours.

So the over all % of flavour can be higher but those are the recommendations for the % of the individual flavours ?

You use the higher end for the major flavors and the lower end for supporting flavors. Stand alone flavors are rarly very good without some supporting ones. I use PG based flavors, 20-30%, then add nic and top it off with VG. I haven't touched my bottle of PG in forever! I end up between 70-30 VG-PG and 60-40 most of the time. My nic is also PG based so it boosts the PG level. I vape 6 nic.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Stand alone flavors are rarly very good without some supporting ones. I use PG based flavors, 20-30%, then add nic and top it off with VG.

Ok , yes I can work with that.

 

[2legsshrt]

They just want me to order them! just last 2 months worth.....
View attachment 396965
Dam it won't show full size... theres about 30 flavors right there...
Always need more!
Anyone know about Hangsen flavors? 2 of those are hangsen,
which this place just got.....

I will say that the Hangsen Mango is the best Mango I have found. I just got 120ml in the mail I like it so much. I use it at 16%, that's the only one I tried.

 

[2legsshrt]

Came in here for someone to kick my .... for me. Made a post in new members forum and should of posted it here, I think. Not sure where to post rants raves or personal stuff in. I feel so stupid at times! Kick me in the right direction.

The Back Porch is a great place for that.

 

[2legsshrt]

You use the higher end for the major flavors and the lower end for supporting flavors. Stand alone flavors are rarly very good without some supporting ones. I use PG based flavors, 20-30%, then add nic and top it off with VG. I haven't touched my bottle of PG in forever! I end up between 70-30 VG-PG and 60-40 most of the time. My nic is also PG based so it boosts the PG level. I vape 6 nic.

Yep I use PG flavors and then add a 50/50 mix and VG to compensate for the flavors. My nic is also in a 50/50 blend. Thats where I like my juice ending up at 50/50

 

[PapaSloth]

Brand new, and in stock at the moment:
FastTech: Eleaf Lemo Drop for $30.69 in Silver
Also in black for $31.

 

[PapaSloth]

I think at first Im just going to play around with the DIY liquids.

Though if I was to do a liquid with all VG - as I have a small bottle of VG , what if any changes do you need to make with builds/wicks ?

50/50 mix is the most vg in a liquid I've used. Read about it being thicker , harder to wick , coils gunking.

Are these mountains or mole hills ?

It is thicker and harder to wick. I don't know about it gunking coils more, though. I think that's mainly the flavors and sweeteners in your juice rather than the VG.

If the juice works in your tank, it's a mole hill. If you get a lot of dry hits because your atty can't keep up with the wicking, then it's a mountain The key part is that you need an atty with deep juice channels to compensate for the thick liquid. Thicker wicks and larger diameter coils might help as well, but mainly it would be the juice channels. Of course, if you drip, it doesn't make a difference.

Also, VG doesn't carry flavor as well as PG, so you'll probably need more flavor in the mix. I suppose that alone could contribute to more gunking.

So thats 30% flavour ,,,,, So 100ml batch would have 30ml of flavour ?

Have a couple of recipes I've noticed and their flavours also are 30-31%

Yet in this list of TFA flavour % for flavours Most of the suggestions are 5%-15% - for individual flavours.

So the over all % of flavour can be higher but those are the recommendations for the % of the individual flavours ?

TFA flavors tend to be on the weaker side, but some flavors are much stronger than others. A certain about of checking out other recipes and experimentation is required. And, as Mekc has already covered, the total % of flavoring can be up around 20%-30% even though the primary flavor might be 10%-15%.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Well my parcel from MFS arrived today . The tracking may not have updated but got here in around 11 days which was rather fast.

No issues well packaged , just had liquid and atomiser accessories on the label. A value of goods much less than i payed but well done if it doesn't raise suspicion.

Health hazard = severe , contact hazard severe - ( PapaSloth the tester) could be the giant sloth genes that make him immune.

I'm glad it got there safe and sound. Sometimes USPS works in strange and mysterious ways but considering the volume of mail they handle, they do an excellent job.

It's the slow metabolism.

Recalculating with your metabolism rate, I've made an emergency 9am appointment for you on June 12th with the vet.

BTW, since becoming a vaper, I suddenly have an excess of bubble wrap. I suppose you know they do well around glass bottles.


C'mon you guys, I was on here last night and now I'm already far behind.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Sorry it took me so long to answer. I've been working overtime at different bases and have had little time to do anything but breathe, and try NOT to smoke.

I'm using a MVP2 right now with Aspire ETS topper. Now that I'm back at my normal base, the pressure has eased off somewhat, and I've cut way back on the cigarettes.

What Semi said.

Well, do not give up - well help in any way we can - with relaxing, with vaping, anything.

A few of us were unable to just kick the smokes all at once - myself I tapered to just a few a day in the beginning and slowly learned how to vape through the urges - the ones after meals and the first one in the morning were the hardest, but I made it and if I can so can you. Stress and busy lives seems to make it even harder, but just vape through it and it will all work out. Later - you will wonder where were these E-cigs ten years ago...

Took me forever to get off the cigarettes completely and I really wanted to quit. Five and a half months and I know of one person the struggled for two years, but had health problems with quitting to boot. As is said all over ECF, it's the ones you don't smoke that we count, not the ones you do. Far better to work slowly towards your goal than get frustrated and quit vaping. You can quit smoking and when it all comes together for you, you will. But please, any questions you have, no matter how dumb they may seem to you, please ask away. No one here ever laughs at somebody, only with them.

 

[Ken_A]

...
C'mon you guys, I was on here last night and now I'm already far behind.

oh, sure... complain when no one posts for 3 hours, then complain when everyone starts talking.





I'm off work today.. put out some more Christmas lights, having a vape and cool-down. still getting a scorch on my Freckled Lemonaid... water didn't help... maybe more VG...

 

[FlamingoTutu]

oh, sure... complain when no one posts for 3 hours, then complain when everyone starts talking.





I'm off work today.. put out some more Christmas lights, having a vape and cool-down. still getting a scorch on my Freckled Lemonaid... water didn't help... maybe more VG...

That's hilarious! Let us know how it goes with the added VG. Hope that fixes it for you. Has it steeped?

Well, once you take out the two pieces to let the Davide use PT heads, and then lose them, it will no longer take the Aspire heads

And there's the issue of potential "dribbling" with all the smaller bottom coils when the level gets low, or the coils loosens a tiny bit when opening to refill.

But I think most of the "leak" issues with them - all of that type - are from people drawing too hard and pulling excess juice into the chimney. Which than has to go somewhere, and being a simple minded liquid, it takes the easy way out and doesn't try to break the law. Of gravity.

Sooooo, if you're steamed about losing the Aspire adapter, I have extras. Only have it for the full-sized ones though. Let me know if you want one or two.

Are you saying the PTs don't dribble? I could save a lot in q-tips if they don't. I am guilty of sometimes drawing like I'm I'm drinking a thick milkshake through a skinny straw.

 

[LittleBird]

It is thicker and harder to wick.
If the juice works in your tank, it's a mole hill. If you get a lot of dry hits because your atty can't keep up with the wicking, then it's a mountain The key part is that you need an atty with deep juice channels to compensate for the thick liquid. Thicker wicks and larger diameter coils might help as well, but mainly it would be the juice channels. Of course, if you drip, it doesn't make a difference.

Please, someone tell me that the KFL+ Second Batch has deep juice channels. Please?!

 

[PapaSloth]

Please, someone tell me that the KFL+ Second Batch has deep juice channels. Please?!

Can you give us a link to the exact one you bought? Some of the clones work really well, others are not as good. Generally, if you have a problem with wicking, you can just add a little distilled water to the juice to thin it out, or if you're good with tools, you can use a drill press or dremel to deepen the channels. Or, just lower the wattage a little, and you'll be fine.

Here's a comparison photo that someone else posted:

The one on the left looks really good, the one on the right is not so good, but probably is still OK.

 

[MikeE3]

Brand new, and in stock at the moment:
FastTech: Eleaf Lemo Drop for $30.69 in Silver
Also in black for $31.

Why, oh why, did they make it a 23mm diameter? My 'fattest' mech, a Poldiac, is just 22.6mm. I'm a little OCD about having a topper wider then the mod.