Older People 55 and Up

[Semiretired]

My Uncle, back when I was 13 used to own a general store. He used to sell cigs by the stick - that is where we used to get ours. I think it was 2 or 3 for a nickel back then... Every time he had us watch the store we would load on on cigs from the open packs and pay for them of course with our pinball money... Back then it was Pall Mall and Camels (non-filtered)...

 

[Corpa]

Semi you are not that old! I never remember when they were sold by the "stick." I don't even remember what a pack cost back when I started but I do remember gas was .25/gallon.

 

[tj99959]

That is interesting.....is it the nicotine that affects the tics??

Yes, only the nicotine level needs to fluctuate in order to interrupt the neurological pathway that causes the premonitory urge that proceeds the tick. (like the feeling you get in your nasal passages before a really good sneeze)
I find that if I vape to much (chain vape) the nic becomes to constant, like the patch, and doesn't work very well.

Oh and cigarettes were 17 cents a pack when I started smoking. I can remember when my dad quit smoking saying "I'll be damned if I'll pay 25 cents for a pack of cigarettes"

 

[Semiretired]

Semi you are not that old! I never remember when they were sold by the "stick." I don't even remember what a pack cost back when I started but I do remember gas was .25/gallon.

Now, Corpa things were done differently in the country and yes we did sell cigs by the sticks - it was all the wino's could afford (LOL)... If you remember we are about the same age. I remember gas wars - you do not see them anymore - now computers control the world...

 

[Semiretired]

Yes, only the nicotine level needs to fluctuate in order to interrupt the neurological pathway that causes the premonitory urge that proceeds the tick. (like the feeling you get in your nasal passages before a really good sneeze)
I find that if I vape to much (chain vape) the nic becomes to constant, like the patch, and doesn't work very well.

Oh and cigarettes were 17 cents a pack when I started smoking.

Interesting tj. I know that I keep small amounts of stronger nic around for my urges (yes, cigs still pop into my mind every time stress levels rise even after almost 7 months of vaping, but I do not give in - I hope it eventually goes away totally). Maybe that is what is helping me.

 

[Janet H]

Welcome to the thread Janet. I'm just curious does Mike ever get out of that chair? He is always kicking back everytime I see him.

Actually he's been out of that chair for the past few weeks as we paint and rip up carpets and install new window trim upstairs. We're getting the house in shape to sell and downsize. This work is a lot harder at age 65!! I catch him looking longingly at that chair like a sad little puppy. He's taken the last 3 Saturdays off to fish a a reward so the chair is getting a little use.

 

[MikeE3]

Yes, only the nicotine level needs to fluctuate in order to interrupt the neurological pathway that causes the premonitory urge that proceeds the tick. (like the feeling you get in your nasal passages before a really good sneeze)
I find that if I vape to much (chain vape) the nic becomes to constant, like the patch, and doesn't work very well.

Oh and cigarettes were 17 cents a pack when I started smoking. I can remember when my dad quit smoking saying "I'll be damned if I'll pay 25 cents for a pack of cigarettes"

As a young kid, my Mom used to give me a quarter to walk down to the store and get her a pack of smokes - and I came home with change. It wasn't uncommon to see kids buying smokes for their parents, so every once in a while we'd sneak-buy a pack for ourselves them go off the the woods and chain smoke a pack. I can still remember getting the nicotine high and dizzy light headed feeling.

 

[Tiny]

My Uncle, back when I was 13 used to own a general store. He used to sell cigs by the stick - that is where we used to get ours. I think it was 2 or 3 for a nickel back then... Every time he had us watch the store we would load on on cigs from the open packs and pay for them of course with our pinball money... Back then it was Pall Mall and Camels (non-filtered)...

Semi you are not that old! I never remember when they were sold by the "stick." I don't even remember what a pack cost back when I started but I do remember gas was .25/gallon.

Morning all!

My Dad owned a Drug Store when I was in High School, I started working for him in 1970 when I was 15. We sold packs for 35 cents and cartons for $3. I think minimum wage at the time was around $2.50 and hour, so you could buy a carton for a little more than an hour's pay. Today cartons sell for $70 here in WI, that's almost a full day's pay at minimum wage now. I never paid for a smoke my first few years, I just stuffed a pack in my pocket before I left for the day when I needed some.

We didn't sell them by the stick, but I do remember certain brands had 5 stick sample packs, I think they were 10 cents.

 

[n9emz]

WOW! Joe, Gadd, Corpa, Bullette, Diva, Tooth....hope I haven't overlooked anyone. Great to see all of you here; old friends, new friends....welcome all.

Nah, Wendall....I was awakened at 0545 with the news that a close friend passed away from heart failure. This has come as a most grievous shock to all of us; Dawn just celebrated her 42nd birthday, and her husband Will is totally devastated. I only have a few minutes to visit with you before we meet to see what we can do to help out. This has robbed our lives of a big portion of joy as they were such a great couple who, no matter if you were down, always lifted you up with their good spirits and happiness. I can't imagine the depth of Will's loss and sorry and Dawn will be sorely missed by us all.

I always wish all of you the best and have a great day.

 

[Corpa]

Sorry for your loss n9emz, it's never easy and especially at a young age.

I was awakened at 0545 with the news that a close friend passed away from heart failure. This has come as a most grievous shock to all of us; Dawn just celebrated her 42nd birthday, and her husband Will is totally devastated. I only have a few minutes to visit with you before we meet to see what we can do to help out. This has robbed our lives of a big portion of joy as they were such a great couple who, no matter if you were down, always lifted you up with their good spirits and happiness. I can't imagine the depth of Will's loss and sorry and Dawn will be sorely missed by us all.

I always wish all of you the best and have a great day.

 

[Tiny]

That is tragic n9emz, I hope you can provide some comfort to her husband.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Good Mornin everyone and welcome new and old. It is good to see everyone checking in. Sorry to hear about your friend N9emz. She was so very young. That is the only thing I don't like about getting older so many friends and family start checking out!
I hope everyone has a great vaping day! It finally warmed up in the NW and I was able to open some windows.

 

[Grubworm]

Hi everyone and welcome, Glad to see it started back up. Would have missed the good read and information. Need to take a new picture of my PVs. Added a pipe from Jazz

 

[txtumbleweed]

Morning all!

My Dad owned a Drug Store when I was in High School, I started working for him in 1970 when I was 15. We sold packs for 35 cents and cartons for $3. I think minimum wage at the time was around $2.50 and hour, so you could buy a carton for a little more than an hour's pay. Today cartons sell for $70 here in WI, that's almost a full day's pay at minimum wage now. I never paid for a smoke my first few years, I just stuffed a pack in my pocket before I left for the day when I needed some.

We didn't sell them by the stick, but I do remember certain brands had 5 stick sample packs, I think they were 10 cents.

Speaking of "remember when.." Minimum wage was 1.00 an hour for my first job.
Gas was 25 cents, cigs were 20 cents and 10 cents tax free, cokes were a nickle, oil was 3.00 a barrel, wheat was 3.00 a bushel and gold was 30.00 an oz. hamburger was .25 a lb and I remember buying my first 7 bone roast for .39 lb when I first got married. Yes those were the days my friend!
The price of wheat is the only thing that hasn't gone up 10 fold. Maybe we could start trading a bushel of wheat for a barrel of oil. I'm sure glad wheat prices have stayed down otherwise we would be paying 10 dollars for a loaf of bread.

 

[MikeE3]

WOW! Joe, Gadd, Corpa, Bullette, Diva, Tooth....hope I haven't overlooked anyone. Great to see all of you here; old friends, new friends....welcome all.

Nah, Wendall....I was awakened at 0545 with the news that a close friend passed away from heart failure. This has come as a most grievous shock to all of us; Dawn just celebrated her 42nd birthday, and her husband Will is totally devastated. I only have a few minutes to visit with you before we meet to see what we can do to help out. This has robbed our lives of a big portion of joy as they were such a great couple who, no matter if you were down, always lifted you up with their good spirits and happiness. I can't imagine the depth of Will's loss and sorry and Dawn will be sorely missed by us all.

I always wish all of you the best and have a great day.

Prayers and thoughts sent your way and for her husband and family.

 

[williegntx]

I'm sure it won't and I hope most everyone will join us. I was shocked the OP decided to close it being as the thread is all of the peoples input not just one individuals.

I haven't brought my story over yet...and I would like to say thanks Tex for restarting the thread.

I agree, it was a work in progress and to let that one individual bring it down with an idiotic post was a case of 'two wrongs don't make a right' and my previous post here was a result of me not know the full story...I will do my best to not let that happen again. But, I am only human and I do have 'knee jerk' reactions...like the rest of the world does so it's not my first and I am working on it.

Thanks Tex!

 

[bobalex]

I was 16 when I first started smoking for real. 37 cents a pack With tax. Washington State has always made a lot of money on "Sin Taxes." According to a web inflation calculator, that 37 cents has magically transformed into $2.54. Last time I looked a pack of smokes cost around $8.00 in Seattle. If I was still hooked on 'em I'd be forking over $10.00 up here in Vancouver.

Here's a mini-drama comparison from a couple of years ago. Let me set the scene: I ran out of smokes and it was too much of a hassle to go all the way out to my favorite discount warehouse and pick up a carton. I saw a convenience store and walked in.

Normal Person: How much for a pack of Marlboros?
Counter Guy: $7.00
Normal Person: That's insane! No one in their right mind would pay 7 bucks for a pack of cigarettes!"

Or …

Me: How much for a pack of Marlboros?
Counter Guy: $7.00
Me: Okay.

No matter how much cigarettes cost … I was always going to to pay the price. Even though I'd sworn I would never pay more than $2.00 a pack … over the years I shelled out whatever was the going rate.

To save money I started rolling my own or buying those abso-freakin'-lutely awful Smoker's Delight mini-cigars. 20 in a pack just like cigarettes but tasted like they were made up from whatever was swept up off the floor at a warehouse that used to store tobacco.

I'd lie in bed at night and feel my chest burning after a day of inhaling those wretched things. I eventually got to the point I could smoke those during the day and chew the Nicorette at night. And it's true that quitting/cutting down using Nicorette sucks less than going cold turkey. But ... If you set the Crazy-O-Meter to 10 … and then drop it down to 8 … I was still crazy.

So there I was plowing through each day acutely aware that everything sucked slightly less than it could. Hoo-freakinn-ray. The other bit o' knowledge that goes along with that is I knew exactly how the day could stop sucking immediately. All I had to do was go to the store and buy a pack of cigarettes. After a few blissful puffs however the crushing feeling of FAILURE would once again descend like the anvil on Wile E. Coyote's head. Oh great. I've failed ... again. And on top of everything else I stink like cigarettes. This Is An Unpleasant Way To Live ... To put it mildly. And that's how I thought I was going to live.

All my former smoking friends told me they still got a Huge Wave of Craving every now and again. And this was after 10 - 20 years of not smoking.

So I had that to look forward to.

A radio ad for Smoker's Savior e-cigs made me go online to see if it was a scam or not. It was. But I also found a link to ECF and that led me to Don DaBoom Vape's Wonderful World of Vaping

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

and then I found

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sy-only-place-you-need-go.html?ref=SuperBeans

I ordered on March 3, 2010 and the starter kit arrived on the 6th. Haven't wanted a cigarette since. Having effortlessly avoided smoking 15,574 cigarettes over the last couple of years ... I am amazed daily ... how much I owe my present quality of life to e-cigs and everybody here at ECF.

A lot of things have effected my life in a positive way. Marriage ... kids ... and a million other good things over the last 60 years. But vaping fundamentally changed my life so completely ... because I know I'll be able to enjoy the good things in my life longer than I would have.

Grateful? That word doesn't begin to cover it.

Vape On Geezers!

Because We Can!

 

[Richie G]

My Uncle, back when I was 13 used to own a general store. He used to sell cigs by the stick - that is where we used to get ours. I think it was 2 or 3 for a nickel back then... Every time he had us watch the store we would load on on cigs from the open packs and pay for them of course with our pinball money... Back then it was Pall Mall and Camels (non-filtered)...

I read somewhere on these interwebz (so it MUST be true) something of interest. Back in the day, if youz guyz remember, cigarettes were displayed right up front on the counter at the local candy/general stores. 'Tis said that the tobacco companies would pay a premium to the store owners to put the cigarettes in arms reach of customers, right next to the candy. The reasoning was that the younger crowd would be tempted to steal them and that is exactly what they wanted. Big T knew that nicotine was addictive (not to mention the other chemicals they added) and that this would breed a whole new generation of cigarette buyers.

Could it be true? Who knows. If it is we (vapers) have our hands full in our attempt to educate society on vaping vs smoking. I've been on these forums for nearly 3 years and I haven't met anyone THAT diabolical. =)

 

[bobalex]

Could it be true?

Hmmmmmm could be

The Insider - Cast, Reviews, Summary, and Awards - AllMovie

The Insider tells the true story of a man who decided to tell the world what the seven major tobacco companies knew (and concealed) about the dangers of their product. Jeffrey Wigand (Russell Crowe) was a scientist employed in research for a tobacco firm, Brown and Williamson. Not long after he was fired by Brown and Williamson, Wigand came into contact with Lowell Bergman (Al Pacino), a producer for 60 MINUTES who worked closely with journalist Mike Wallace (played here by Christopher Plummer). Bergman arranged for Wigand to be interviewed by Wallace for a 60 MINUTES expose on the cigarette industry, though Wigand was still bound by a confidentiality agreement not to discuss his employment with the company. Despite Wigand's willingness to talk, CBS pulled his interview from at the last minute after Brown and Williamson threatened a multi-billion dollar lawsuit. The staff of 60 MINUTES and CBS News were soon embroiled in an internal struggle over the killing of the story, and Wigand found himself the subject of lawsuits and a smear campaign, without his full story reaching the public.

Big Tobacco and Big Pharma have billions of dollars worth of strings they pull.

The FDA is also hooked on Big Pharma cash. For the first 86 years of the FDA's existence all funding came through the U.S. Treasury. We paid our taxes and the FDA received appropriations out of the budget. But in 1992 a law was passed that said for a large proportion of the work done by the FDA on new drug applications, the money's going to come directly from the industry. In 2009 the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex funded the FDA to an estimated 600 million dollars. Because of this direct funding, the FDA looks upon the industry as their client … instead of the public and the public health, which should be the client.

 

[Semiretired]

WOW! Joe, Gadd, Corpa, Bullette, Diva, Tooth....hope I haven't overlooked anyone. Great to see all of you here; old friends, new friends....welcome all.

Nah, Wendall....I was awakened at 0545 with the news that a close friend passed away from heart failure. This has come as a most grievous shock to all of us; Dawn just celebrated her 42nd birthday, and her husband Will is totally devastated. I only have a few minutes to visit with you before we meet to see what we can do to help out. This has robbed our lives of a big portion of joy as they were such a great couple who, no matter if you were down, always lifted you up with their good spirits and happiness. I can't imagine the depth of Will's loss and sorry and Dawn will be sorely missed by us all.

I always wish all of you the best and have a great day.

Sorry, to hear about your friends loss and at such a young age. I hope you can comfort them and it sounds like you are going to need some also. Again sorry for your loss...