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DancingHeretik

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Mike, I've been slowly reading up on RBAs and have a question. Actually a couple of questions.

First, could you give me a link to the EXACT kind of cotton yarn I should use. I know it's Peaches and Cream 100% cotton, right? And, I think it's supposed to be unbleached. Yet, I thought I read something here about bleached maybe wicking better.

Second question is about SS mesh. Am I understanding right that SS is torched in order to build up carbon? Because otherwise it conducts electricity? If so, that doesn't seem like the greatest choice for a wick. Or, am I just being silly?
 

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Oh, that's too bad. What other fruits are you going to try? Maybe you should stick to fruit added to tobaccos...or dare I say bakery flavors...

Well I mixed up the Janet's Heaven and I'm sad to say that thou it's good it hasn't given me the desire to vape fruits. I have several fruits now and I'll keep trying.
 

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Mike, I've been slowly reading up on RBAs and have a question. Actually a couple of questions.

First, could you give me a link to the EXACT kind of cotton yarn I should use. I know it's Peaches and Cream 100% cotton, right? And, I think it's supposed to be unbleached. Yet, I thought I read something here about bleached maybe wicking better.

Second question is about SS mesh. Am I understanding right that SS is torched in order to build up carbon? Because otherwise it conducts electricity? If so, that doesn't seem like the greatest choice for a wick. Or, am I just being silly?

Yes for cotton, Peaches & Cream is a poplular brand to use. Folks go back and forth on bleached, 100% organic ,etc, etc. I don't know if the commercial Peaches & Cream is bleached or not - but a lot of people use/like it.

A lot of people just like and use the cotton from cotton rolls/batten available at places like CVS. They just pull a section out and gently roll it to shape then thread it through their wicks.

Yet another popular 'wick' to use is bamboo - poplular brand is Aunt Lydia's #10. I mainly use bamboo for Vivi Nova rebuilds.

And the current rage is hemp. I've tryed it but don't like it. It wicks better than cotton/bamboo and is more resistant to burning but I don't like the taste it has. Depending on the juice it imparts and earthy/woody taste or changes the taste entirely. I've mainly used it with fruit flavors. It might be OK with tobacco flavors, I've heard some say it even though it has it's own taste it changes them for the 'better'.

Stainless steel - probably still the most widely used wick. Yes the easiest most consistent way to setup a coil/wick with SS is to 'torch' the SS before use to 'oxidize' it. It was common to roll the wick, torch it 'till it glowed orange/red, quench it in water, repeat this process 3 times, then put a few drop of PG or VG on it, light it, let it burn out, repeat this 3 times.

Now it's more common and accepted to lightly torch the mesh, then roll it, then insert into the addy and coil it. Less oxidation is supposed to enhance wicking and keep the juice from turning dark by leaching all the oxidation/carbon from the wick.

Currently there's a trend to not torch / oxidize the mesh at all. This takes patience and just the right tension of the coil to the wick. Once the coil is wound, then multiple pulses of power, and fiddling with the coil to remove shorts/hot spots, until just the area under the coil becomes oxidized to avoid shorts.

Note: this is becoming popular for folks to be trying because someone has brought up a caution that oxidizing the SS to high temps is forming a particular form of chromium molecule (CR6 I think) that is known to be cancerous and it may leach into the juice and or be inhaled. There's a lot of discussion, debate and fuss being made about this currently. If you're interested in following up on this I can post the threads about it. I've been following them since they started about a week back.
 
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    Oh no bakery flavors. They don't work at all for me. I'm thinking maybe a different blueberry in the mix. I'm not fond of SC Fruits. I bought several of them when they first came out and didn't like a single one except the blackberry. I'm going to try the Hangsen grapefruit next I think.
     

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    Well I mixed up the Janet's Heaven and I'm sad to say that thou it's good it hasn't given me the desire to vape fruits. I have several fruits now and I'll keep trying.

    Sorry you're not liking the pear/blueberry flavors. Maybe you could try increasing the blueberry for a different balance? I'm a fruit person so I like even just the Pear by itself. I haven't tried just blueberry though. Maybe mix some fruit with the tobacco?
     

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    I'm determined on this last ditch effort with fruit. I won't give up easy this time!!

    Fran - I did a blueberry that I wasn't getting much flavor from - mixed it with my peppermint and it was much better. Just a thought if you don't want to discard it. What I am liking lately is Green Apple mixed with Cranberry - good luck with the grapefruit.
     

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    Yes for cotton, Peaches & Cream is a poplular brand to use. Folks go back and forth on bleached, 100% organic ,etc, etc. I don't know if the commercial Peaches & Cream is bleached or not - but a lot of people use/like it.

    When I googled Peaches and Cream brand, I got yarns of all colors. Wouldn't bleached be better because that means it wouldn't have any dyes in it? Am I supposed to use regular knitting yarn or something thinner?

    MikeE3 said:
    A lot of people just like and use the cotton from cotton rolls/batten available at places like CVS. They just pull a section out and gently roll it to shape then thread it through their wicks.

    I've been reading the Drunker thread, and they mention using cotton rounds, the kind used for make-up. They say you should boil them first. It seems like they would fall apart. But, cotton batten (batting?) is actually a kind of cloth, right? So, it shouldn't fall apart when boiled, I guess.

    MikeE3 said:
    Yet another popular 'wick' to use is bamboo - poplular brand is Aunt Lydia's #10. I mainly use bamboo for Vivi Nova rebuilds.

    Bamboo doesn't sound very absorbent. But, Aunt Lydia's #10 is more of a thread, isn't it? Something between a yarn and an embroidery thread?

    MikeE3 said:
    And the current rage is hemp. I've tryed it but don't like it. It wicks better than cotton/bamboo and is more resistant to burning but I don't like the taste it has. Depending on the juice it imparts and earthy/woody taste or changes the taste entirely. I've mainly used it with fruit flavors. It might be OK with tobacco flavors, I've heard some say it even though it has it's own taste it changes them for the 'better'.

    Doesn't sound too promising.

    MikeE3 said:
    Stainless steel - probably still the most widely used wick. Yes the easiest most consistent way to setup a coil/wick with SS is to 'torch' the SS before use to 'oxidize' it. It was common to roll the wick, torch it 'till it glowed orange/red, quench it in water, repeat this process 3 times, then put a few drop of PG or VG on it, light it, let it burn out, repeat this 3 times.

    Now it's more common and accepted to lightly torch the mesh, then roll it, then insert into the addy and coil it. Less oxidation is supposed to enhance wicking and keep the juice from turning dark by leaching all the oxidation/carbon from the wick.

    Currently there's a trend to not torch / oxidize the mesh at all. This takes patience and just the right tension of the coil to the wick. Once the coil is wound, then multiple pulses of power, and fiddling with the coil to remove shorts/hot spots, until just the area under the coil becomes oxidized to avoid shorts.

    I did see a video on the Peter K method and one about using cigarette paper to form a carbon barrier on SS wick. Those sound promising.

    MikeE3 said:
    Note: this is becoming popular for folks to be trying because someone has brought up a caution that oxidizing the SS to high temps is forming a particular form of chromium molecule (CR6 I think) that is known to be cancerous and it may leach into the juice and or be inhaled. There's a lot of discussion, debate and fuss being made about this currently. If you're interested in following up on this I can post the threads about it. I've been following them since they started about a week back.

    I'm not sure if I can handle that! I'm so overwhelmed as it is!

    I guess I just need to keep reading. I haven't gotten very far in the Different Cottons for Different Wicks thread. It's got so much in it that I keep getting overwhelmed by it all.

    I guess this is all still experimental, and no one can give me the absolute answers at this point. I'll need to be brave and be willing to experiment too just like everyone else!

    Thank you for your time and patience!
     

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    Just talked to my new to the forums sister. She wanted to thank all of y'all for all the kind words. She is really trying to figure all of this out. She was trying to do everything on her Tab tablet. It was difficult for me to help her since she wasn't seeing the same thing I was on my laptop. She is going to fire up her desktop computer and try again. Hopefully we will see her here soon.

    Her SO managed to run his carto dry. Can we say 'taste like a burning cig filter" yuck !!!!!!! Sis is ordering more supplies today. She learned the very valuable lesson about back-ups. They are both doing really well. Sis is smoke free and her SO is well on his way. He has noticed that his reg smokes don't taste nearly as good as they did to him just a few short days ago.
     

    my4jewels

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    Good for them.. What they're going through sounds like a pretty normal learning curve.

    BTW, it snowing again... beautiful fluffy flakes...

    Just talked to my new to the forums sister. She wanted to thank all of y'all for all the kind words. She is really trying to figure all of this out. She was trying to do everything on her Tab tablet. It was difficult for me to help her since she wasn't seeing the same thing I was on my laptop. She is going to fire up her desktop computer and try again. Hopefully we will see her here soon.

    Her SO managed to run his carto dry. Can we say 'taste like a burning cig filter" yuck !!!!!!! Sis is ordering more supplies today. She learned the very valuable lesson about back-ups. They are both doing really well. Sis is smoke free and her SO is well on his way. He has noticed that his reg smokes don't taste nearly as good as they did to him just a few short days ago.
     

    mattiem

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    Good for them.. What they're going through sounds like a pretty normal learning curve.

    BTW, it snowing again... beautiful fluffy flakes...

    Thanks Jewels. I agree. This isn't as easy as opening up a pack but it is so worth the extra effort. I am so very proud of them. Thankfully sis does her research so I am sure she will be stocked up soon and doing good.

    We had something coming down earlier today. Not sure what it was. Looked kinda like fine wood shavings. Was wondering if it was possibly something from that big meteor explosion in Russia.
     

    my4jewels

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    Yeah, wasn't that crazy? And, at the same time an asteroid flies by only 17000 miles from us. I tell ya, it's like a science fiction movie...and we're worried about our nictotine supply....haha

    Thanks Jewels. I agree. This isn't as easy as opening up a pack but it is so worth the extra effort. I am so very proud of them. Thankfully sis does her research so I am sure she will be stocked up soon and doing good.

    We had something coming down earlier today. Not sure what it was. Looked kinda like fine wood shavings. Was wondering if it was possibly something from that big meteor explosion in Russia.
     

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    Sorry you're not liking the pear/blueberry flavors. Maybe you could try increasing the blueberry for a different balance? I'm a fruit person so I like even just the Pear by itself. I haven't tried just blueberry though. Maybe mix some fruit with the tobacco?
    Altho I don't like tutti frutti I have found it alot of the time makes a unvapeable mix at least vapeable..........I hate throwing any juice out
     

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    Good for them.. What they're going through sounds like a pretty normal learning curve.

    BTW, it snowing again... beautiful fluffy flakes...
    We got our first snow this year today woohoooo
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