On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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Two_Bears

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I know everything there is to know about building, and I'm a master build craftsman (*)

When I'm in a bar I stealth vape my masterful builds at 20W. I might go out and get some fresh air, turning it up to 30-35W. Then back down when I go back inside. I really do this in a variety of situations.

Explain how I do that with a mech...

* - not really but I hope you get my point...
Thats just it YOU CANT. That is a big reason why i hate mech's. You hit the button and tge battery delivers all tge power it can.

The other reason why i hate mech's is when tge battery gets weak tge voltage falls rather quickly.

Regulated mod set tge voltage and the fall off of power is more gradual.
 
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Thats just it YOU CANT. That is a big reason why i hate mech's. You hit the button and tge battery delivers all tge power it can.

The other reason why i hate mech's is when tge battery gets weak tge voltage falls rather quickly.

Regulated mod set tge voltage and the fall off of power is more gradual.
Just checked out the $13 Ehpro Nemesis, it is nice. I got a black one and waiting on a red one from FT. I am going to use kicks in them or the short stops. So far I am thrilled with my purchases on mech's.
Kicked mechs. Economy. Adjustability. Ease of repair. Simplicity. Steady power delivery. With multiple identical mechs and extra kicks, good insurance.
 

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Thats just it YOU CANT. That is a big reason why i hate mech's. You hit the button and tge battery delivers all tge power it can.

The other reason why i hate mech's is when tge battery gets weak tge voltage falls rather quickly.

Regulated mod set tge voltage and the fall off of power is more gradual.
If you start with a 4.2V battery and vape it to 3.6V you experience a steady 27% loss of power. Not just at the end but starting with the first puff. So I never understood the idea of precision building since I'm always dealing with a moving voltage target.

I really get the satisfaction of controlling everything via the build and the satisfaction of the sheer simplicity. It just seems like too much work to rebuild a pair of coils rather than hitting the +/- buttons to adjust things. And I am very good at consistent builds, within 0.04R with the .70 dual coil builds I do.

I'm also not convinced we really understand what turns a mech into a guided missile into someone's mouth. I know peeps think they do but I'm not convinced enough. I would trust a Reo because of the hot spring but I'm done with $200 mod setups, plus needing special RDAs.
 

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I don't know about Prohibited? Because I haven't followed Utah like some of the other State Legislation(s).

But I believe that GG was referring to Utah HB-415

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142 (3) Beginning on July 1, 2016, a person may not sell an electronic cigarette substance
143 unless the electronic cigarette substance complies with the standards established by the
144 department under Subsection (1).
145 (4) (a) Beginning on July 1, 2016, a local health department may not enact a rule or
146 regulation regarding electronic cigarette substance labeling, nicotine content, packaging, or
147 product quality that is not identical to the standards established by the department under
148 Subsection (1).
149 (b) Except as provided in Subsection (4)(c), a local health department may enact a rule
150 or regulation regarding electronic cigarette substance manufacturing.
151 (c) A local health department may not enact a rule or regulation regarding a
152 manufacturer sealed electronic cigarette substance.
153 (5) Beginning on July 1, 2016, a person may not advertise an electronic cigarette
154 product:
155 (a) as a tobacco cessation device;
156 (b) if the person is not licensed to sell an electronic cigarette product under Section
157 59-14-803; or
158 (c) during a period of time when the person's license to sell an electronic cigarette
159 product under Section 59-14-803 has been suspended or revoked.

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Utah State Legislature

People are not keeping a heads up is their respective states and/or advising others on what is happening:ohmy:
 

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If you start with a 4.2V battery and vape it to 3.6V you experience a steady 27% loss of power. Not just at the end but starting with the first puff. So I never understood the idea of precision building since I'm always dealing with a moving voltage target.

I really get the satisfaction of controlling everything via the build and the satisfaction of the sheer simplicity. It just seems like too much work to rebuild a pair of coils rather than hitting the +/- buttons to adjust things. And I am very good at consistent builds, within 0.04R with the .70 dual coil builds I do.

I'm also not convinced we really understand what turns a mech into a guided missile into someone's mouth. I know peeps think they do but I'm not convinced enough. I would trust a Reo because of the hot spring but I'm done with $200 mod setups, plus needing special RDAs.
I try go build yoy .8. Most times i hit .77-.83.
 

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People are not keeping a heads up is their respective states and/or advising others on what is happening:ohmy:

Yep.

I remember when Utah HB-415 was introduced. And the CTA that came later.

I Saw a Little outrage over it in the beginning. But that was about it. Kinda forgot about it until Two_Bears mentioned it.
 

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Yep.

I remember when Utah HB-415 was introduced. And the CTA that came later.

I Saw a Little outrage over it in the beginning. But that was about it. Kinda forgot about it until Two_Bears mentioned it.

People should have read Deep - internet sales:
(4) "Cigarette" means any product that contains nicotine, is intended to be burned or heated under ordinary conditions of use, and consists of or contains:
(a) any roll of tobacco wrapped in paper or in any substance not containing tobacco;
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People should have read Deep - internet sales:
(4) "Cigarette" means any product that contains nicotine, is intended to be burned or heated under ordinary conditions of use, and consists of or contains:
(a) any roll of tobacco wrapped in paper or in any substance not containing tobacco;
:grr:

And that is why I posted the Link to that piece of Legislation.

But it is Also why I said I was Unsure about e-Cigarettes and or e-Liquids Online Sale being Prohibited. Because I Don't Know if that is the Only piece of Legislation that the Governor of Utah has signed. There could be Others that I am Unaware of.

And GG may be correct?
 

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Utah is in a unique position. The mormon majority are particularly against ecig usage because young members are using them to skirt the non-smoking rules that all members must follow. They would be restricting ecigs even if BT and BP weren't pushing it.
 

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Appreciation of mech usage isn't as black and white as it seems. Over time, the power variation becomes part of the enjoyable experience when using a mech at lower wattages. You start off with a strong vape that gradually tapers down to a mellow vape over a period of hours, with the flavor changing along the way so that you can appreciate more of the flavor notes.

Although I use a regulated mod all day which gives me exactly the power I want every time, I enjoy relaxing with a more flavorful vape on a mech, starting out like a lion, cruising through a tasty warm vape and ending up with a mellow moist plume when the battery tells me it's dropping off.

I'm glad I began using mechs before subohm became the focus as they are very enjoyable in their own way for a tasty interesting vape.
 

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Lets put these posts in the right order.


Kicked mechs. Economy. Adjustability. Ease of repair. Simplicity. Steady power delivery. With multiple identical mechs and extra kicks, good insurance.
When I looked at the cost of a mech and a good kick like an Evolve,. I figured I might as well just buy some Provari's, which I did at their recent sale prices. Not saying it's not viable, just I fell the other way. If you are going to rely on a kick it is not much different than a Provari. If the kicks all die, sure you can go naked but that was never the plan.
 

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If you are going to rely on a kick it is not much different than a Provari. If the kicks all die, sure you can go naked but that was never the plan.
Yes, if your provari dies and provape is out of business, you don't have a mod. If all your kicks die, you can still vape, you just have to change batteries more often. With eight kicks, that isn't going to be anytime soon.
 

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Yes, if your provari dies and provape is out of business, you don't have a mod.

If Provape did close down, I'd be willing to bet that there is someone in the company smart enough to buy the remaining inventory and set up shop as a repair only business.
 

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Yes, if your provari dies and provape is out of business, you don't have a mod. If all your kicks die, you can still vape, you just have to change batteries more often. With eight kicks, that isn't going to be anytime soon.
I have 11 Provari's :lol:
 
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