Speaking of that old Klingon motto, I wonder if someone like Alex Jones could bring this matter to light.
On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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The US is going to be the laughing stock of the world when they start putting vapers in prison...lol.
Two more liters transferred into the freezer in amber glass 500ml amber bottles. I free-handed it but held my t-shirt over my face 
The above is bad advice. Always use maximum PPE.
The above is bad advice. Always use maximum PPE.
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I'm going to say it once more... the deeming regs bestow the sole right to determine Intended Use on the FDA. Not us the buyers, nor the manufacturer of any particular product. Short of taking the FDA to court, I don't believe that manufacturers or consumers have any "right of appeal". Like most of the deeming regs, the definition of Intended Use is so vague that it is effectively whatever the FDA wants it to be.
This is not a matter of me being right or wrong. I specifically said I was not rendering any opinion as to what I might believe will or will not happen. Nor am I personally stockpiling flavors, although partly because I don't really mind vaping unflavored. @salemgold asked a specific question - Why are people stockpiling flavors? All I have attempted to do here is to explain at least one reason why someone might take a worst case view of the flavoring situation and the basic mechanics and implications of Intended Use.
Might take a while.
Vaping is not being made illegal, just damn near impossible. Anything you attempt to buy, they can try to intercept - But Sale, not purchase will be illegal. Once you have it - it's yours.
However , if they do come for us, I will gladly step to the Front of the line and Lead the loudest outcry of the masses the FDA may ever hear.
It's my Vape - FDA KMA!
Sorry, no. That is the Freshest of my purchases and at the Back behind 7 existing liters. I Never open to sample on large bottles.
To bad they do not use penetrable Seal plugs for test extractions.(hypodermic needles)
The flavor thing is going to be a hard call. I think it will come down to the name of the site selling them and what else they sell. Manufacturers may start to put not for use in ejuice or something similar on the bottles to cover their asses. Places like ecigexpress for example would be deemed for vape use, even the sweeteners. But something like tpa/tfa not so much. But the fda could pull a dick move and be like well its sold on one vape site so its that for every site and store.
As for them having pg in them, almost every flavor has it no matter what its used for.
As for them having pg in them, almost every flavor has it no matter what its used for.
I think flavoring companies created before vaping and for food (Like TFA) use will still be around. I am concerned that prices may go up some because of some loss of business. I am NOT saying that vapers make up the majority of their customers, but we do increase sales.
Some people will stock up on flavorings; some will not. Everyone has the right to their own, un-judged choice. I do think that those who use tobacco flavorings should stock up sooner than later. I don't use them, but many do.
Some people will stock up on flavorings; some will not. Everyone has the right to their own, un-judged choice. I do think that those who use tobacco flavorings should stock up sooner than later. I don't use them, but many do.
Ya I think those are deff the ones to stock up on if they use them. Can't really say they are for food lol.
There are some situations where stocking up on a flavoring is of some concern - when it is created by the liquid maker themselves. The one flavor my wife has preferred for about four years, Hypermint from Azure Vaping, is a blend Rob, the owner, developed himself. Although I can agonize through trying to match it should Azure stop internet sales or choose not to continue doing business, a stock is reassuring.
Proprietary flavorings only available from a vaping enterprise would be worth stocking in my opinion. The rest will continue to be available as they were before vaping arose.
Proprietary flavorings only available from a vaping enterprise would be worth stocking in my opinion. The rest will continue to be available as they were before vaping arose.
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"We expect that asserting our authority over these tobacco products will enable us to propose further regulatory action in the future as appropriate"
"We expect that asserting our authority over these tobacco products will enable us to propose further regulatory action in the future as appropriate"
I guess I have cause to worry because hubs doesn't vape anything but the Hangsen tobaccos I DIY for him.
Well said!Might take a while.
Vaping is not being made illegal, just damn near impossible. Anything you attempt to buy, they can try to intercept - But Sale, not purchase will be illegal. Once you have it - it's yours.
However , if they do come for us, I will gladly step to the Front of the line and Lead the loudest outcry of the masses the FDA may ever hear.
It's my Vape - FDA KMA!
We vapers have had more than enough of the cancer sticks. Hundreds or thousands have broken the demon weed for better quality of life, better flavor.
Allow me to use Spock's quote from Star Trek 6 "The Undiscovered Country'.
" If I were human I believe the correct responce would be GO TO HELL! If I were human" Spock
I prep so i can make these Bureaucrats irrelevant, or tell them to GO TO HELL!
These Bureaucrats must be stopped or our liberty will cease to exist.
If memory serves Ben Franklin made a profound statement which I must paraphrase. Those that would trade liberty for Security deserves neither.
Searching out multiple international sources for that Hangsen flavoring should help you ensure he keeps getting those sweet homemade vapes no matter what!
Yeah, it's a crap shoot, but you should end up getting some orders through. Maybe testing out a couple small direct orders from solid looking offshore sites would help you for future navigation!
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