Thank you for this. Your story really gives me hope that my personal goal is attainable.
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Thank you for this. Your story really gives me hope that my personal goal is attainable.
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I personally don't believe that vaping is bad for you. Maybe the OP just wants to eliminate all addictions.
LOL @ eliminating all addictions. My Dr Pepper addiction is worse than my smoking ever was and there is nothing no one can do to make me even want to come close to eliminating that addiction. In fact, if I could find a dr pepper e-juice I am sure I wouldn't care how much nic was in it. LOL
I am about as new as they get. lol I have been vaping for almost 2 weeks now and analog free for a week. I started at 18mg and am still at 18mg. On most days, its enough, but yesterday I was begging for 36mg or higher. lol And it scares me to think that if I had access to an analog, I would have taken it. I would like to think I am stronger than that, but like I said, yesterday was a rough one. The nic fit was in full swing to say the least. My family scattered. LOL
I know why smoking is a bad habit. Why is vaping a bad habit? I mean, yeah, it's a habit.
Is this about using nicotine versus abusing it? I agree that that's a personal decision. But you're trading nicotine for nicotine.
But does the person next to me need to know what mg I'm using? What if I'm on 0mg? Is the fact that I'm exhaling vapor that smells like cookies bothering him enough to stop? Is his aftershave bad enough for me to ask him to move?
How deep does the rabbit hole go
I just realized I had actually used the word "bad". Not what I meant. It was supposed to be "one habit for another". I think I type faster than I think. LOL
24mg cartos might be a good idea just for the rough days, I believe they swing by to visit every few weeks. I have a couple of small bottles of my favorite flavors in 24mg for the tough days.
I actually think this is a good idea. When days like yesterday creep up on me I will have something to help.
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You're welcome.
I've read a few posts from people who stopped vaping and are doing great. I personally didn't start vaping to kick my addiction to nicotine, it just happened. Then I started smoking again because it wasn't just the nicotine I was addicted to. It's the act that has me hook line and sinker. We're all different though, so whatever works for each person is fine by me
Oh, there are Dr Pepper juices out there. Mountain Dew and others too
OMG!!! I knew there was Root Beer, but Dr Pepper? Seriously? oh lord, I am never gonna sleep now. LOL Going to find some Dr Pepper e-juice.
Yes, the act of actually smoking is the killer (no pun) for many people who try to quit.
Not just the lack of nic, but the absence of the ritual of having a smoke.
Many people actually miss the visual aspect of the wafting smoke as being a one key thing to failure.
Not just the lack of nic, but the absence of the ritual of having a smoke.
Many people actually miss the visual aspect of the wafting smoke as being a one key thing to failure.
Thanks. I did a search to and will watch YouTube reviews tomorrow (or later today rather) and will be purchasing for sure. I have to at least try it. MyFreedomSmokes seems to be a reputable vendor here huh? Some of the sites I came across that have it, I have never heard of before. Kinda leary.
You probably get good throat hit off that stuff. Never tried it myself, but I vape M&P's rootbeer and it's got a wicked throat hit sometimes. Too much sometimes actually.
I would imagine they might be very close....
I would imagine they might be very close....
Actually nicotine by itself isn't any more harmful than caffiene. The FDA did find traces of carconigens in it but at levels that even Drs at the University of Boston health sciences and University of Louisville says are well below human concern. Plus there have been recent studies that show nicotine is benificial to memory. As for planning your day around it we always plan our day around something. Keeping track of my pv isn't any more difficult than most people keeping up with their cell phone. I know this sounds like I am thinking the OP is wrong in wanting to stop at some point but that's not true. If that is what they truly want to do then I full of support for that. I just wanted to make sure that they had all the information that was out there. Reading in the health forum is informative I think they even have articles in there about tapering down and stopping vaping. Good luck Stacey and hope this all works out whatever choice you make.
Also try these guys. http://www.ecblendflavors.com/soda-fountain
They are the stuff and won't jerk ya around.
It's the soda shop where you can custom your stuff.
Pick " The Doctor" flavor and go to town with the rest on blend mix and nic content.
Their prices also can't be beat!
This is where I get my Dragon's Blood juice with the "cool hit" option and the stuffs so good I want to drink it
Once you find "the juice" for you......you will not even think about analogs.
Good luck and have fun
Edit... Crap, I forgot to say check the site for a coupon code too. It will give ya another 20% off.
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You can do it. Just do a slow gradual drop in you nic. If your heart is set on giving up everything, you'll get there. The hardest part has already been done...not smoking. The rest will be easy for you but don't do it in hugh spurts.
Stacey, I'm with you. I'm new to vaping, it helps me stay off tobacco, but I think fearing it's "too good to be true" is the correct skeptical stance. In our journey for knowledge, too many times did we find out that whatever was considered "common sense" at one time was indeed completely false. Some go as far as to say that in science, our "gut feelings" end up being wrong a majority of times. It's "common sense" that vapor can't be as harmful as cigarette smoke, but that doesn't mean at all that given time and data we won't discover it's as bad or worse, or still not as bad but worse than we thought. A hundred years ago, nobody would have imagined smoking was as bad for you as we know it is now.
On the flipside, the current "common sense" is that all addictions are bad for you and you should try to be addiction free. This is a mix of puritan remnant and hasty generalization (the most "visible" addictions around are really bad), but it's not necessarily true. In fact, there is a lot of misunderstanding about what is an addiction, as opposed to chemical dependence, habit or "abuse". I think it's very bad that nowadays both scientists and policy makers replace prejudice and belief for knowledge and evidence in dealing with this subject.
I also happen to think it's probably incorrect to encourage people to vape by stating "vaping is harmless / won't kill you / is healthy". A lot of it comes from the marketing, unfortunately. I think if you browse this forum and linked resources you will find a more balanced overall approach.
On the flipside, the current "common sense" is that all addictions are bad for you and you should try to be addiction free. This is a mix of puritan remnant and hasty generalization (the most "visible" addictions around are really bad), but it's not necessarily true. In fact, there is a lot of misunderstanding about what is an addiction, as opposed to chemical dependence, habit or "abuse". I think it's very bad that nowadays both scientists and policy makers replace prejudice and belief for knowledge and evidence in dealing with this subject.
I also happen to think it's probably incorrect to encourage people to vape by stating "vaping is harmless / won't kill you / is healthy". A lot of it comes from the marketing, unfortunately. I think if you browse this forum and linked resources you will find a more balanced overall approach.
I fell off the wagon last year. I started vaping with 36mg and weened myself all the way down to zero and stopped altogether. I felt fine but missed the hand to mouth but fought through the urges. Then I had a loss in the family and went straight for the camels. That started a downward spiral and I ended up smoking more than I had originally within the first few weeks.
I started vaping again which was much harder the second time, but I've take my Nic down from 36mg to 12mg and don't plan to go any lower. If I do, great. If I dont, great. I feel like if I stop again, the first tragedy that comes my way will have me running to the gas station to buy smokes and calm myself. Of course this is just me. I know myself and know that I need the ritual of inhale, exhale and the clouds to calm my nerves. For those that get to zero and stay there, congrats! I figure if I do a day without vaping, cool. But I still want to have my PV around just in case. I'm addicted to nicotine, yes. But I'm extremely addicted to the act of smoking/vaping. I feel like a traded a very bad habit for a habit. Now if only i could stop biting my nails.
I have lowered my nic from 24mg to 18mg and am working on going down to 12mg. If I can just get to a fairly low level I'll be happy about it. No plans at all to ever quit vaping, unless forced to by the FDA. lol I don't think I could give up the ritual of smoking.
This is off-topic, but regarding nail biting... I bit my nails until I was in my late twenties. The way I broke the habit was to let one thumb nail grow. It looked so pretty I let another one grow, and so on. I finally stopped biting all my nails and never ever did it again. Come to think of it, it's sort of the same process as lowering the nic in ecigs.
i see it like this if you like smokes your crazy and thats my opp... but its not bad for us to vape in my eyes if it was so bad the fda would close us down right now and the gubment loves the taxes tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much to lose on this great money maker ...I would love to go 0 mg but scared to. I think its to soon since I quit smoking to try it. I will eventually though. IMO, if I can't get down to 0 mg nic, I feel like all I have done was trade one bad habit for another.
One of the main reasons I wanted to quit smoking was because I was so tired of being a prisoner to cigarettes. Planning my day around my smokes. A real pain in the hiney. Well, I may not be smoking cigarettes, but my day is still planned around vaping. A healthier alternative, I am happy for. I would eventually love to be able to say I am nicotine free.
just my thoughts on this matter...
lawnman3... vape on my friends vape on !!!
Hey, I hear you! I had it in my head that my wife and I would be both on 12mg, because we didn't smoke heavily. Well... I didn't necessarily smoke heavily, but I smoked very regularly, so without knowing it I was keeping my nic levels higher. I got night sweats, sick stomach, and achy limbs on 12mg and went OH CRAP WHAT IF I CANT VAPE? Eventually I went up to 18mg and everything's been fine.
My wife and father in law both said, "Well, you're twice her size, why would you use the same mg?" Fair point.
I do watch for symptoms of overdosage, but having more nic in your body than it wants is an unpleasant situation so it seems difficult to accidentally overnic once you find your dosage. I totally respect the question you've asked (I saw you meant "habit" not "bad habit", I understand), and I think it's added to the thread.
I did find it interesting that people immediately asked "So when are you going to quit vaping?" like having just quit smoking wasn't enough to worry about for now. So I just say I don't plan to quit it.
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