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Explain your position... I thought everything in that report was 1. old news, and 2, fairly incomplete.
If you are going to read all the new media then make sure you get the facts: Media and General News
Here is the article by Wall Street Journal:
Study Finds E-Cigarettes Contain Chemical Tied to ‘Popcorn Lung’
And here is what the article/study fails to report.
Here is the article by Wall Street Journal:
Study Finds E-Cigarettes Contain Chemical Tied to ‘Popcorn Lung’
And here is what the article/study fails to report.
- How the media totally exaggerated study on risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ from e-cigarettes
- Dr Farsalinos - A new study finds diacetyl in e-cigarettes but exaggerates risks and fails to discuss about smoking
You sir are understandably very bitter towards vaping because you are very sick. But as you have disclosed in a different thread it was the way you vaped and you own ignorance of how to vape and what(not meant as an insult)which has caused you to be sick.
Please read all the links just not what Havard has to say with their own agenda.
There is an odor.. Cannot distinguish between Troll or sarcasm yet, but it has strong undernotes of Troll..
Actually, this particular study shows Vaping to be SAFER than I though... I assumed vaping was UNSAFE, just safer than smoking. Now I can see,at least in part, how much safer it is than I assumed.
I vape for 2 reasons ONLY. It costs less than smoking and is safER than smoking. Neither of these assumtions has yet to be proven false.
Studies are only of value to those funding the study. IDK, who funded the Hawvawd study, but I bet they weren't a PRO vape funder.
Hillary and Donald are CREDIBLE, depending on point of view and which truth you choose to find true.
That study showed that the vast majority of e-cigs have only trace amounts of diketones, and did nothing to prove that those levels were dangerous. Yet here you are, Yet Again, spinning it to conform to your opinions, regardless of fact. In your last thread, you ended it by acknowledging that you should not really be arguing this stuff here. But here you are again...
Agenda????
There's a bridge somewhere, the underside of which is looking very unoccupied.
"Well it has less harmful chemicals than cigarettes" Pretty much anything is less harmful than cigarettes. [Removed] What's your point? You sub ohm drippers pounding your lungs every five minutes with 30+ times the density and volume of vapor that was in the little tootle puffer cartridge used in the study. That won't hold any consequences down the line will it? /sarcasm
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2.2 mg of flouride is relatively harmless dose to an adult. And it whitens your teeth too!. Anything above 5g will kill you. You sub ohmers are probably in the clear though. Too much of a good thing is never a bad thing.
I get it.... you are bitter towards vaping because that is what you are convinced has caused your condition. I really do sympathise with you and can't begin to imagine what it feels like to be given the news you have. HOWEVER the posts you are making on this forum really are absurd.
It's quite clear to anyone with a braincell that vaping is significantly better for you than smoking cigarettes, and that is what the vast majority of people on this forum are doing now rather than smoking. I don't understand the point you are trying to make? Your case as far as i'm aware is an isolated case and you are still not entirely sure what caused your condition. What's with the constant negativity?
No one is trying to dismiss all information that vaping could potentially be dangerous, I for one would like to know exactly how much damage I am doing to myself by vaping and i'm all ears to anyone that wants to provide concrete evidence one way or the other. You are not providing anything apart from negative OPINIONS toward vaping.
It's quite clear to anyone with a braincell that vaping is significantly better for you than smoking cigarettes, and that is what the vast majority of people on this forum are doing now rather than smoking. I don't understand the point you are trying to make? Your case as far as i'm aware is an isolated case and you are still not entirely sure what caused your condition. What's with the constant negativity?
No one is trying to dismiss all information that vaping could potentially be dangerous, I for one would like to know exactly how much damage I am doing to myself by vaping and i'm all ears to anyone that wants to provide concrete evidence one way or the other. You are not providing anything apart from negative OPINIONS toward vaping.
My thoughts verbatim.
You're out of line OP. Your condition (that I DO sympathize with) gives you NO right to spew these absurd opinions that you have NO proof are fact.
Last I checked opinions and fact are two different things. My common sense is 'out of line'. I'm so sorry. I'll go sit in the corner now. Just have to find my bad boy hat first.
Alas, lacking data, this is another thread I'll have to ignore.
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