OOH! OOH! I got em! The new 510 1.5 atty and the io6!!! Which do I try first? And how?

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As Isaac knows, I'm strickly a carto user. I tried the LR306, (as a gift from Isaac to find what I liked!! YES!! He's awesome!!!), and I did like the hit, but never gave it enough use to master it. (And, I think I may have damaged it by hitting the button before it was loaded).

Isaac came out with the 1.6 cartos and I was hooked. And am very happy with them. I did also try the LR fusions and like them a lot too (They are good 5card! Maybe a little more flavor, but not quite the TH or warmth of a 1.6 carto)

But, with all the talk, I had to try the io6's and of course, the 1.5 510's. And I've read so much about them lately. I'm not sure which to try first and EXACTLY how to start (prime with 6 drops?), etc...

Remember... I've never really mastered atties... and I don't want to "break" them.

Ok.. to make a long story short (I know... too late. :)

Which one should I start with and exactly how do I start? (I know it's been said many times... But please give me details)

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Thanks loft! It's working pretty good for me. GREAT flavor and TH. I just can't get it to work consistently. (Anybody reading this please know that I have never really been able to get atty's to work for me. I'm sure it's not the product, base on what everyone else is saying.)

I get some great hits off of it. Then it taste burnt. I add 2-3 drops... sometimes it's great.. sometimes it's either flooded or tastes burnt. I'm a die hard carto user, so I think that is contributing to my wanting to drip so much, etc.. (also know as lazy. :)

I'm going to keep trying. Because the idea of being able to change flavors easier then cartomizers is very appealling to me.

But, the bottom line is that I keep putting the atty down and happily get what I need from IKV 1.6 cartos or LR Fusions.

Maybe I'll just stick with the cartos and use the atty's when I want to change around a bit or try a new flavor.

Again, it gives me great flavor and TH. It is just inconsistant for me. I am certain that it is user error and will keep on trying. Because I want atomizers in my vape box as an alternative.

you know what? This is actually Isaac's fault. He made the 1.6 and LR Fusion cartos so good, I really can't see the reason to have to drip so often to get basically the same experience as when I can fill a 1.6 and vape for a couple hours without touching it.

I keep hearing about the break in period for an atty. I am definitely going to keep trying to make it work. Because there is definitely a place in my arsenal for dripping. But, the cartos he makes are so darn good, they will be my main vape. For now... I may master the atty's use and change.

I'll keep you all posted for any new to atty users that may be reading.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. But, from what I've read, it just takes time to perfect the use of atty's and dripping.
 

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The io6 is actually very forgiving compared to other atomizers. If you flood it, unscrew it - blow it out into a paper towel - and start over with 4 drops. If the flavor starts to drop or tastes mildly burnt, give it a hard 'cold' hit (take a drag without activating the switch for your device) to pull the rest of the juice out of the cup and into the coil and take a drag (5 seconds). After that drag, let it cool off (15 secs or so) and then drip 3-4 drops onto the bridge and let it sit for about 30 seconds and vape again.

As with anything, practice makes perfect. If you keep trying and don't give up you will get the hang of it. Stop being lazy and don't get discouraged. :)
 

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Yup! Me too 5card. Well, I like the 1.6 cartos better. But, I am now alternating with a LR fusion. Awesome cartos.. both of them.

But, that is exactly why I want to master an atty or two. I often want to try a new juice or, especially when I'm drinking, use a juice that I don't normally use. I want this option to "test" a juice before filling a carto with it.

I really don't understand why anybody would want to drip all day when you can fill a couple of cartos and leave the bottle on your desk. And, I know a LOT of folks won't agree with this, there is not that much difference between dripping and a good carto from Isaac. Everybody's taste, and juice, and heat are different.

These are my taste testing attys!

And I think I'm getting it!! Most of the time. Thanks loft! Still getting more burnt hit than I would like. But, when it's good, it's GREAT!!!
 

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The io6 is actually very forgiving compared to other atomizers. If you flood it, unscrew it - blow it out into a paper towel - and start over with 4 drops. If the flavor starts to drop or tastes mildly burnt, give it a hard 'cold' hit (take a drag without activating the switch for your device) to pull the rest of the juice out of the cup and into the coil and take a drag (5 seconds). After that drag, let it cool off (15 secs or so) and then drip 3-4 drops onto the bridge and let it sit for about 30 seconds and vape again.

As with anything, practice makes perfect. If you keep trying and don't give up you will get the hang of it. Stop being lazy and don't get discouraged. :)

Loft, you need to start writing instruction manuals (or a book -- Dripping for Dummies). Excellent tips that are really helping me out with the io6.
 

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Loft, you need to start writing instruction manuals (or a book -- Dripping for Dummies). Excellent tips that are really helping me out with the io6.
If I wasn't so strapped for time, I would. Working more than normal honestly just to get out of the house due to real life circumstances... preparing for the worst. :\
 

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Yup! Me too 5card. Well, I like the 1.6 cartos better. But, I am now alternating with a LR fusion. Awesome cartos.. both of them.

But, that is exactly why I want to master an atty or two. I often want to try a new juice or, especially when I'm drinking, use a juice that I don't normally use. I want this option to "test" a juice before filling a carto with it.

I really don't understand why anybody would want to drip all day when you can fill a couple of cartos and leave the bottle on your desk. And, I know a LOT of folks won't agree with this, there is not that much difference between dripping and a good carto from Isaac. Everybody's taste, and juice, and heat are different.

These are my taste testing attys!

And I think I'm getting it!! Most of the time. Thanks loft! Still getting more burnt hit than I would like. But, when it's good, it's GREAT!!!

... that is because the only way to get full flavour is through dripping. I used carts for the longest time and use to swear by them. I only tail piped with my morning coffee. Now with the exception of the odd carto, I drip. It is a pain, but out and about I'll sacrifice taste for an eGo T which have performed great for me.
 

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switched ... that is because the only way to get full flavour is through dripping. I used carts for the longest time and use to swear by them. I only tail piped with my morning coffee. Now with the exception of the odd carto, I drip. It is a pain, but out and about I'll sacrifice taste for an eGo T which have performed great for me.

Yep. As you always say switcher, everybody is different. For some folks that slightly better flavor is very important. For others like me, and I think 5card, it isn't worth all of the trouble of dripping for what sometimes seems like better hits. But, personally, I get such good flavor out of the LR fusions and 1.6 cartos, I really don't see much of a difference with atties.

Which brings is of course to the fact that some people probably have much more sensitive tast buds than others. So they'll notice a bigger difference where some of us won't. The great news is that there are so many options that we can all find something to satisfy our needs.

Now both the io6 and 1.5 atties are definitely part of my arsenal. I still haven't mastered them, but I'm going to stick with it this time!

Question: I like a strong, warm TH with good flavor. I'm getting it from both atties. But I am having better satisfaction with the 1.5 than the io6 (1.8 right?).

Does the .3 Ohms make much of a difference? Or is it the design of the atty?

Or have I just not mastered the io6 yet?
 
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If anything pizza you should see diminished flavour on the 510 when compared to the io6. OTOH TH will be greater on the 510. That being said... all things being equal...

If you had a 510 @ 1.8Ohms the IO6 @1.8Ohms would still out perform the 510 wrt flavour, whilst the throat hit would be greater on the 510. 2 different atties for two different applications... and then there is the 901. A very finicky atty IMHO but the best between 801s and 510s. It delivers the great characteristics of both atties. The IO6 once again IMO vapes like an 901 vice a 306 and in doing so, Isaac hit a home run on this one. Having discussed it with him, his rationale behind its development (greater longevity for the 306) he not only achieved that but achieved a leak-less atty (when compared to the 901) that performs like a 901. In my books that = a grand slam :)
 

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As always, you hit the nail on the head switcher. TH is more important to me than flavor. Both are important, but using Isaac's infamous priority list, TH is tops for me.

You just told me why I'm enjoying the 1.5 510 more. Thanks!

Now, on the other point wrt (<-- I finally figured out what that means :) leaks. I have some leaking issues with the io6. I'm sure that it is mostly user error. But this brings me to another question.

Another thing I like about the 510 is that the DT goes inside the atty. Whereas the io6 and 306s have the DT outside the atty. Seems to me this would, and does for me, lead to more leaking.

Is there a reason for the different designs on how the DT fits on? Seems to me that inside would always be better.
 

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I agree with Switcher ~ I just don't get the flavor from a carto that I do with an atty.

It took me 10 months to figure out how to drip. And YES I am slower than most !!!

Since January I was 100% Fusion man,(by far the best carto I've used IMO) but started having problems with my juice. I had used most of IKV attys with less than stellar success. 2 months ago my Brewmaster started carrying LR 306's and I bought a couple to help him out. WOW it just clicked and I tasted my Brews like never before. I don't think (though it may be) a taste bud thing, but rather a getting the atty to work at peak thing.

For me, dripping hasn't been a pain at all. At home or work at my desk, I use my 30 ml bottle. On the road or out on the town I carry a 3 ml bottle. It's smaller than a 14500 batt and very light.

BTW my first 3 I06's were a flop. 2 HV popped under 5.5v and the LR my cheeks suck in trying to draw on it. However just got another in yesterday and for 5 hours today it has been wonderful.
 

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So here's my frustration with Attys:

1) I get a warmer vape with cartos such as the LR Fusion.
2) Dry hits on attys or horrible. I would much rather vape a dry carto than a dry atty and my attys are always drying up on me (I'm obviously not getting juice where I need it because a primer vape usually gets it going again but sometimes the flavor in the atty is ruined by then and I need to blow it out). Burning wick or that metalic flavor really aggrivates my throat. In order to avoid that burnt metal or wick taste, I often end up getting leaks or flooding that atty because I find I need to use alot of juice.

Can you vape an atty to quickly?
 
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