The LUMI is a pre-coiled sub ohm tank that is powered with our supermesh coil system. The disposable tank values almost equally to regular coils in the market, and it brings customers more convenience , no need to change coils frequently. What's your opinion about this tank?
Opinion about the non-replaceable Lumi tank
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I don't feel comfortable producing additional plastic garbage without any real need to do so. This tank represents the kind of "convenience" I can easily do without in my everyday life.
I mean, let me put it this way:
Those among us who can really not be bothered to invest any time or thought into vaping, they already have their pod systems. Ok, I don't like them, but I understand it. But what on earth is wrong with a person who buys a big chunky regulated mod with a replacable battery, only to put some plastic throwaway-tank on top?! Do these people even exist?
I mean, let me put it this way:
Those among us who can really not be bothered to invest any time or thought into vaping, they already have their pod systems. Ok, I don't like them, but I understand it. But what on earth is wrong with a person who buys a big chunky regulated mod with a replacable battery, only to put some plastic throwaway-tank on top?! Do these people even exist?
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Makes sense, if it really is the same price as a coil and vapes ok it could be a winner. The single advantage of coils is they’re “easier” to deal with than wick and wire. I personally don’t find that to be particularly true but this does remove leak factors and messy fingers factors. This would make them easier yet. I’m an rta guy though so my opinion doesn’t matter that much.
I suspect they do. In particular current cartridge coil users. There would also be a small market for people who were given mods by others. I take your point on the needless plastic waste issue. The way society works though it’s something nearly beyond control at this point. We could have stopped it in the 60’s (thankyou marketing. You killed the ocean) but by this point to do anything more powerful than minor damage mitigation is going to take something really drastic.
I'm not a treehugger, and I'm not trying to save the planet.
It's the degree of mismatch between perceived subjective convenience, and the objective downside of producing non-degradable plastic trash. I dislike these one-way-tanks for probably the same reason why I dislike people who simply throw their trash out on the streets, instead of putting it into the next garbage bin. Their misbehaviour doesn't keep me awake at night, I just simply don't want to be a part of that crowd. It makes me uncomfortable.
It's the degree of mismatch between perceived subjective convenience, and the objective downside of producing non-degradable plastic trash. I dislike these one-way-tanks for probably the same reason why I dislike people who simply throw their trash out on the streets, instead of putting it into the next garbage bin. Their misbehaviour doesn't keep me awake at night, I just simply don't want to be a part of that crowd. It makes me uncomfortable.
Every German person I’ve met (and I actually went there once so it’s a few) was hiking and natural medicine obsessed. You may be an anomaly of course, but there are degrees of vegetable intimacy. For Germany you might not qualify, but compared to Germany, Americans hate trees and nature in general with a desperate passion. We sell great swaths of them to corporations for pennies on the dollar so they can turn them into toilet paper and hamburger boxes.
Now “vegetable intimacy” is a situation I can get behind. Also the rest of your post is true, but the intimate vegetables really stood out to me. I like it!!!!
You may like John Waters’s last film then. There’s a whole subplot about it.
I bought one and have it as an emergency tank so I have not used it yet. I have an AIO with a battery built-in (that I try to remember to charge monthly) and keep that setup in my purse in case everything dies on me. Doubt that will ever happen but you never know!
Lord knows if anyone needs a disposable tank, it's me. I like breaking tanks. However, I usually cope by buying some replacement tanks. Often in non glass material.
I'm confused a bit by this, are you suppose to toss the tank every time? What is it made of? What's the advantage? Aren't all tanks "disposable" in a sense.... In the sense that when they break, you replace them?
I don't understand the selling point frankly, if you don't have to replace the tank EVERY time, and if you DO have to, I'm pretty confused about why I would ADD to my vaping costs.
I'm not a sub0hmer, you don't really need to answer my questions although I hope "disposable tank" does not become a trend because IMHO it's just another unnecessary "thing."
If it's more like, this is a cheap, easily replaced tank if you BREAK it, that's kind of deceptive marketing in my opinion.
Oh hell IDK. I hope someone can clear this up for me, seriously.
Anna
I'm confused a bit by this, are you suppose to toss the tank every time? What is it made of? What's the advantage? Aren't all tanks "disposable" in a sense.... In the sense that when they break, you replace them?
I don't understand the selling point frankly, if you don't have to replace the tank EVERY time, and if you DO have to, I'm pretty confused about why I would ADD to my vaping costs.
I'm not a sub0hmer, you don't really need to answer my questions although I hope "disposable tank" does not become a trend because IMHO it's just another unnecessary "thing."
If it's more like, this is a cheap, easily replaced tank if you BREAK it, that's kind of deceptive marketing in my opinion.
Oh hell IDK. I hope someone can clear this up for me, seriously.
Anna
I believe there is a place for this tank,
however experienced vapers are more likely to buy a tank that can either drop in a new coil unit, or be rebuilt/ new coil and wick.
For someone just getting into vaping and wanting to try a sub ohm tank this may be a fair starting point.
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however experienced vapers are more likely to buy a tank that can either drop in a new coil unit, or be rebuilt/ new coil and wick.
For someone just getting into vaping and wanting to try a sub ohm tank this may be a fair starting point.
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What Market Segments are you trying to reach with a Throw-Away Tank? 1st Time Vapers? Incredible Lazy People? A PMTA-able Device for a US Market?
And what would be the Retail Price Point Target for a US Consumer?
Since the Tank is made of Various "Plastics" as well as Metal(s), it would render it Difficult to Recycle. Perhaps even a contaminant to a specific Recycling Stream.
I just Don't see that this is a Step Forward for a company such as Geekvape.
I also Question the need for such a Device when the Retail Price of a Re-Usable Tank is Very Reasonable.
I can't comment on the flavour/functionality of the LUMI, as I haven't tried one in real life. As to the concept, I can see the appeal for some - no mess, no fuss, just chuck in some juice and off you go until you need to change it. There lies the biggest issue. Vapers understand that coils and wicks are effectively consumable items, like car tyres and batteries, they need to be replaced. But the complete tank? This seems like a marketing crossover from pod systems, and offers all of the convenience provided you accept the built-in obsolescence and short lifespan. I understand this is a polycarbonate tank, which may suffer failure with certain e-liquids.
The biggest shortcoming I see with this tank is the sheer fact that it is disposable. Even if it delivers the best vape ever, being a commodity item, if the price point isn't extremely competitive, people will seek better long term value (e.g. re-buildables). As mentioned by others, there is also the whole recycling issue, which will disqualify a market segment on ethical grounds. Certainly, I can't see it appealing to vapers other than as a one-off portable spare. From the vaping aesthetic and cultural point of view, style and gravitas are important, and on that score the LUMI, by the intrinsic throwaway design, is flawed.
The biggest shortcoming I see with this tank is the sheer fact that it is disposable. Even if it delivers the best vape ever, being a commodity item, if the price point isn't extremely competitive, people will seek better long term value (e.g. re-buildables). As mentioned by others, there is also the whole recycling issue, which will disqualify a market segment on ethical grounds. Certainly, I can't see it appealing to vapers other than as a one-off portable spare. From the vaping aesthetic and cultural point of view, style and gravitas are important, and on that score the LUMI, by the intrinsic throwaway design, is flawed.
I agree that it could be a decent choice for a newbie wanting to try subohm-ing. I was placing an order for other vape items and saw it and was just curious as is my nature so I added one to my order. I had also viewed a YouTube video about a disposable tank and it was funny and somewhat interesting because they tried everything and could not break the tank. Do not think it was the Lumi but very similar.
I have not tried mine and would never ever use it as a regular type of thing and I also am cognizant of trying to do my part in not wasting. For me, it is a long-term thing. It is stored in my purse and I do not have to worry about it breaking. It would only be used in an emergency situation so it does have a place in my arsenal but I would not buy another.
I have not tried mine and would never ever use it as a regular type of thing and I also am cognizant of trying to do my part in not wasting. For me, it is a long-term thing. It is stored in my purse and I do not have to worry about it breaking. It would only be used in an emergency situation so it does have a place in my arsenal but I would not buy another.
The only purpose I could see for this is if it were available everywhere, like bottled water. I’d buy one if I was out and broke my tank and needed a replacement like now, and I could grab one at a gas station or mini mart Otherwise it has no appeal for me.
Same for non-refillable pods. Fillable pods are bad enough, when you have to pitch the pod because you can’t change the coil, but I have one for certain activities when I need the lightest, smallest device I can find.
Same for non-refillable pods. Fillable pods are bad enough, when you have to pitch the pod because you can’t change the coil, but I have one for certain activities when I need the lightest, smallest device I can find.
Top-Filling...4 ml. capacity...$3.49 at VaporBeast…
If they come out with a 1.4-1.6 ohm version for us MTLers...I'll try one...
Vapecrawler
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If they come out with a 1.4-1.6 ohm version for us MTLers...I'll try one...
Vapecrawler
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I added it to an order when it popped up as I was checking out(I know such a mooch) I paid 2.99.Top-Filling...4 ml. capacity...$3.49 at VaporBeast…
If they come out with a 1.4-1.6 ohm version for us MTLers...I'll try one...
Vapecrawler
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I don't use plastic tanks, my juices are pretty much all tank crackers. Seems too wasteful in long run so doubt I would try them unless traveling outside of the US.
I don't use plastic tanks, my juices are pretty much all tank crackers. Seems too wasteful in long run so doubt I would try them unless traveling outside of the US.
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