Orchid Clone or Kayfun Clone???
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I don't think quad channel tanks are good for single coil. You have to do something with the wick or plug an air hole so that it won't leak.
I have dual 26g 10 wrap micros on my Orchid and the flavor is awesome. Far better than a kayfun I tried once. Never owned one though.
I have dual 26g 10 wrap micros on my Orchid and the flavor is awesome. Far better than a kayfun I tried once. Never owned one though.
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Let you know how it is when my Orchid arrives. I'm liking my Kayfun 3.1 modified. So as of right now Taifun GT, Fogger V4, Kayfun Lite, and 3 Kayfun 3.1. For me the Taifun and 3.1 are running great. But I'm a dual coil user and want to try the Orchid.
I just got an Eleaf Lemo and the airflow is much better than the kfl +. And its a pyrex tank. Can see the juice and not worry about what juice you use.
Fogger 4?
I've seen a lot of negatives about the orchid.. but one clone has a screw to fill it..so that takes most of the complaints away. People had flooding issues with originals..so look into the best clone. I think the clone is better than the original from posts and friends...
Kayfun is great...I used 1.. ended up being 9.. everyday for almost a year..but I'm a dual coil lung hitter now...
The orchid is probably the best bet for a nice looking tank that performs like a dual coil dripper..in that price range.
I would consider a genesis also... and maybe even a dripper with a deep well... sigelei taj ji is what I reach for now(recently got it though), but I also love my origen, and I'm drilling out my other magma. Let a friend have the one I drilled out.
Edit- it is possible to seel off one side for single coil in fogger and orchid.. there's also kayfun clones in dual coil..
I've seen a lot of negatives about the orchid.. but one clone has a screw to fill it..so that takes most of the complaints away. People had flooding issues with originals..so look into the best clone. I think the clone is better than the original from posts and friends...
Kayfun is great...I used 1.. ended up being 9.. everyday for almost a year..but I'm a dual coil lung hitter now...
The orchid is probably the best bet for a nice looking tank that performs like a dual coil dripper..in that price range.
I would consider a genesis also... and maybe even a dripper with a deep well... sigelei taj ji is what I reach for now(recently got it though), but I also love my origen, and I'm drilling out my other magma. Let a friend have the one I drilled out.
Edit- it is possible to seel off one side for single coil in fogger and orchid.. there's also kayfun clones in dual coil..
I have the tobeco orchid v2. It has the bottom fill hole. I never liked the tight air draw on kay fun so I preferred fogger v4. I haven't had any problems with top filling my orchid but I do get a lot more juice when filling from bottom. Flavor from orchid is a lot better than fogger v4. I like tanks and I like lung hits, orchid gives me what I need. I'm waiting for squape reloaded to be cloned. I figure I will let the first round of reloaded clones to pass so I can see if they have any malfunctions or manufacturing errors.
I never tried a kayfun or fogger but I have the tobeco orchid v1. Running dual 28g 6 wraps and it works great. Even with 80vg 20vg juice the flavor is still great and clouds are nice. It almost keeps up with my plume veil. Only con is top filling. It took me about 4 tries til I got it right.
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I'd definitely go orchid over any kf, but I'd check out the fogger v4, I'm a big fan you can drill it out very easily and get better Airflow than an orchid and have more capacity and a glass tank....
I'm glad to see i'm not the only one to say that,i keep trying to convince the non believers,but they wont budge haha.
As far as the question,orchid or kayfun,hands down orchid for the win.They are not even close in comparison,and if you can build 1 coil,then you can build 2 just as easily.The orchid is great for lung hits,but works just as well for mouth to lung hits also.Trust me,it'll be the best $20 you ever spend on vape gear.
Mouth to lung here. Orchid is well worth $20.
As for Orchid vs Fogger for flavor, I think they are pretty close in that category. I like the overall design of the Orchid more though.
Actually, I was just watching a video about the Orchid and apparently Tobeco increased the channels on the later run of V1, as well as the V2. I need to do another comparison between it and the Fogger, but I think they are still pretty much around the same.
As for Orchid vs Fogger for flavor, I think they are pretty close in that category. I like the overall design of the Orchid more though.
Actually, I was just watching a video about the Orchid and apparently Tobeco increased the channels on the later run of V1, as well as the V2. I need to do another comparison between it and the Fogger, but I think they are still pretty much around the same.
The Orchid is far less forgiving (IMHO) on how you wick it. The authentic one I played around with had a VERY fine line between dumping the tank and giving dry hits. I tried various configurations from wicks on deck, wicks over channel, wicks in channel, tried various density of wick tails, and never was able to get it functioning reliably at all. Plenty of other people seem to have had better luck so I'm holding off on a final judgement until I get a clone in to spend some real quality time with. I'm also thinking there might have been some defect with it, as it was one of the earlier ones out, and this is really the only rebuildable I've ever had issue with (other than design flaws)
First time I built a kayfun on the other hand it worked perfect. And after probably hundreds of builds since then, almost every single one in all my kayfuns has worked perfect. I might be more biased towards a kayfun build and that was hindering my ability to build the Orchid properly, but my friend couldn't build it either which is why I got a chance to have a go at it.
The performance, when hitting good, on the Orchid far surpassed the Kayfun though. Airflow is much better and you can get a lot more vapor from it because of the dual coil configuration. Flavor was still in the Kayfun territory, didn't seem any better or worse than any Kayfun I've used. There was MORE flavor because of the huge amount of vapor, but the flavor present was the same quality I'm used to with kayfuns. Just thought I'd mention that because there's two components to flavor, the quality and quantity. You can have strong flavor that falls flat on complexity and nuances, but luckily the Orchid gives both.
I'm guessing if you were used to building a taifun or fogger the Orchid would be an easier tank to set up, but if this is your first RTA, considering what I went through with the Orchid I'd really suggest a Kayfun. You can get the clones so cheap might as well get an Orchid AND a kayfun and compare to see one you like better.
First time I built a kayfun on the other hand it worked perfect. And after probably hundreds of builds since then, almost every single one in all my kayfuns has worked perfect. I might be more biased towards a kayfun build and that was hindering my ability to build the Orchid properly, but my friend couldn't build it either which is why I got a chance to have a go at it.
The performance, when hitting good, on the Orchid far surpassed the Kayfun though. Airflow is much better and you can get a lot more vapor from it because of the dual coil configuration. Flavor was still in the Kayfun territory, didn't seem any better or worse than any Kayfun I've used. There was MORE flavor because of the huge amount of vapor, but the flavor present was the same quality I'm used to with kayfuns. Just thought I'd mention that because there's two components to flavor, the quality and quantity. You can have strong flavor that falls flat on complexity and nuances, but luckily the Orchid gives both.
I'm guessing if you were used to building a taifun or fogger the Orchid would be an easier tank to set up, but if this is your first RTA, considering what I went through with the Orchid I'd really suggest a Kayfun. You can get the clones so cheap might as well get an Orchid AND a kayfun and compare to see one you like better.
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That's actually a good idea that i didn't think about.Yeah they are both cheap,you can get the orchid for $20,less if you order from fasttech,they have the v2 for $11.08,they also have kayfuns very cheap,but i bought my 3.1 clone from 101vape for $15 so for less than $40 you could have both,way i see it,you can never have too many tanks haha.
I'd rather get an orchid and a fogger than an orchid and a kf, everyone knows the kf doesn't hang the question is the orchid v fogger...
Dual coils are not as easy to build as single coils. Especially for a beginner. I recommend a kayfun. Very easy to build. Getting an Orchid too would also be fun. It's cheaper than a fogger.
You should get a single coil for your first rebuilding experience. Getting two coil wires wrapped around the fogger screws is quite a pain.
You should get a single coil for your first rebuilding experience. Getting two coil wires wrapped around the fogger screws is quite a pain.
Dual coils on the Orchid is really easy since it has 3 posts with the positive having dual mounts. Much easier to build dual coils than the Fogger.
I'd agree it's a little easier, but if everyone always just took the easier way, they wouldn't get any better at anything.
True, but I am not so sure about the Veritas design. Maybe somebody could do a similar design for coil/air placement but easier build. Maybe if the positive terminal and insulator were mounted against the well just above the air hole and used a standard screw.
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