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Oryginal or fake VTC5A

Discussion in 'Batteries and Chargers' started by Przemysław, Feb 8, 2018.

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  1. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Hi
    Can someone tell me is this oryginal VTC5A or fake?
    Thanks for help
     

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  2. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Texas
    Hard to be certain from a picture, generally Sony markings are straight.
    Date code shows 12/15 2015, so it is an old cell.

    Me, I wouldn't trust it, batteries are cheap.
     
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  3. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

    Supporting member
    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Hard to tell, but if in doubt I wouldn't use it. Batteries are inexpensive from reputable suppliers. I am partial to IMRbatteries.com, good service, great prices and they are a trusted vendor.

    For more on batteries including where to buy could check out this blog, there is a chart listing all batteries that have been tested and in the bottom cell you can find a list of trusted suppliers. I'd insert the chart but have had little success doing so.
    Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

    Good luck,

    Anna
     
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  4. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Thanks for advice ;) I'm checking Mooch tests, but in my country it's hard to know where buy oryginal batteries. I'm vaping on them in Athena mech squonk at 0.15 and they dont't even get warm.
     
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  5. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Even if they're original, you're exceeding the cdr of those batteries. And that's assuming that the resistance reading is correct, which is far from a safe bet (no resistance meter is accurate at such low resistances). Not the best of ideas.

    Sent from my Thor E using Tapatalk
     
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  6. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Thanks than I'm changing the setup..
     
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  7. untar

    untar Super Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    Then buy from akkuteile.de in germany or nkon.nl in the netherlands, they have original cells.

    Nobody can tell you if those cells on the photo are original without doing measurements.
     
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  8. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Thanks,
    I've checked this shops and the one in NL has a good price and cost of shipping but they don't have them in stock. I will wait and then order.
     
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  9. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I'm with KenD on this one. If you don't know how to match ohms, amp draw, and amp limits, use this guide:

     
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  10. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
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  11. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    I can't be sure from the picture, does it have a transparent wrap?
     
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  12. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Yes I've changed it .I wanted to see what's under the "original" wrap. I have also two of them in green wraps they came. I will upload the picture later.
     

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  13. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    Transparent wraps are a really bad idea. The reason being that they make it very difficult to see any holes which could lead to a short, and a thoroughly bad day.

    Battery Safety | E-Cigarette Forum
     
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  14. Robin Becker

    Robin Becker Full Member

    Feb 3, 2018
    I estimate them as genuine batteries. Most of the fakes are using fake shrinks, but printing on the battery requires machinery...I doubt, that those criminals will invest in such equipment.
     
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  15. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    That makes no sense. Machinery to make batteries, but not to print?
    It's almost impossible to tell a fake from genuine just by looking. The only way is to test and compare its performance against known specs for that cell.
     
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  16. Robin Becker

    Robin Becker Full Member

    Feb 3, 2018
    I am sorry, but it is not 100% correct. It is very complicated to copy a battery for 100%. The fake Sony batteries I saw were just fake types of Sony, means one took lets say VTC5 and rebranded it as VTC5A, or took NC1 and rebranded it into VTC6...The same I saw with LG MG1 (2900 mAh / 3C) turning into HG2. The typical Plus size of a manufacturer with the Ventile holes stays the same.
    In the cases I saw the shrinks were fake and the print on the body of the battery has been erased (so one can´t see anything through the shrink).
    Some years ago I used to test mobile phone batteries. I gained some experience (unfortunately) in the way criminals in China think and work.
     
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  17. untar

    untar Super Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
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  18. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Yeah I think they have :) I'm blind lol. Photo from phone cam but I think that they have those "dimples" I don't even know what's this means :)
     

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  19. untar

    untar Super Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    Google spits out "dołek na policzku" for "dimples", it's those small craters some people get in their face when smiling.
    Yeah, it looks very probable that you have originals then.
     
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  20. Przemysław

    Przemysław Full Member

    Feb 8, 2018
    Poland
    Changed to the pink one :) I'm waiting for new wraps and it's all I have for now.
     

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