Paypal limiting vendors who sell ecigs??????

[Hogie]

I had placed an order at OvaleUSA and went to check on the staus of my order. On their page is this message:
Paypal limited our account because we sell electronic cigarettes, so are currently try to find another solution. Until then, we have to stop all sales. If you have any questions please contact Ovale USA.

What is up with that????? BIG brother telling me where I can spend my money???
Has this happened at any other site?

 

[jj2]

They been doing that in the USA for a while now.
Some vendors still accept payment via PayPal but you have to ask and then it has to be sent as a gift.

 

[Hogie]

When I tried to contact Paypal (which is VERY hard to do unless you want to pay phone charges) I input the word ecig in the question box and they stop the contact process telling me they do not deal with drugs????? Is an organization as big as them really THAT ignorant?

Anyway, it looks like my payment went thru. I will get my eGo tank atomizer today along with some tanks. I hope it lasts until I can get genuine Joye from another vendor (I found out after buying that it is Tawa which it only warranted for 1 day)

 

[swedishfish]

Funny. I ordered a cigarette rolling machine and used paypal. In fact, I purchased it on ebay and paid with paypal. I just checked and they are still selling them. And that's using actual tobacco.

Edit: I don't know if I'd necessarily call Paypal big brother- more like big business, but they are a little nuts. I sell on ebay (who owns paypal) and they have weird issues with all sorts of things you sell.

 

[vapordraggin101]

They don't seem to have a problem with ebay selling e-cigarette coupons.....this has been going on for a long time..
I've been wondering why vendors didn't start selling coupons or something similar.

50% COUPON FOR E CIGARETTE w/ CHARGER & 6 REFILLS LQQK! - eBay (item 270694137372 end time Feb-16-11 14:07:42 PST)

 

[hairball]

Paypal and eBay (eBay owns Paypal by the way) both won't allow the sale of nicotine. Since the FDA has not approved ecigs, you can't sell kits on there either. I questioned eBay about just the ecig without the pre-filled cartridges, and was still told no due to FDA regulations. Go figure. Oh well, it's their loss of profit.

Anyone who has paypal, get a debit card from them. It's worth it's weight in gold. I'm a seller on eBay, which is my vape money, and use paypal's debit/credit card for ecig purchases.

 

[starsong]

Hmmm, I just bought a Riva kit and the vendor uses paypal. I hesitate to name them here in case big brother sees it and puts a stop to it.
Edit: nevermind, I see it matters if the selling is in the US or not, and they are not.

 

[mamacat]

If I recall correctly, Paypal has been limiting accounts of vendors who sell e-cigs for around a year and a half. There was one point in time when a lot of the vendors here used Paypal to get up and running. Then - keep in mind, my memory fails me sometimes - around September 2009 Paypal went on a tear. In one day they closed many of our beloved vendors here. John Banzhaf and ASH were at the forefront, which they openly admitted.

Any vendor who uses Paypal would be wise to seek another merchant account, imho. Especially if Paypal is cleaning house again.

Ssdd. *sigh*

ETA: When leaving the thread, I noticed OP is from NY. See - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...gent-nys-outright-sales-ban-agenda-again.html

 

[richardf]

I have not used a "store bought" unit since the first week I started vaping. The Ego-T looks nice though, and I think I am going to pick one up. I am going to wait until my local shop "indyvaporshop" has them in stock. I prefer to support my local shop, and avoid paypal and shipping charges.

Starsong: that is a beautiful cat!! I had a female chocolate point for 17 years, a female seal point for 13 years, and a male blue point.

 

[ec!gg]

We tried to register with paypal when we first opened and were denied. I have seen some other vendors accepting paypal, but not sure how they are getting away with it.

 

[starsong]

Starsong: that is a beautiful cat!! I had a female chocolate point for 17 years, a female seal point for 13 years, and a male blue point.

Thanks! She is a sweetheart. Glad to hear yours lived so long, mine is 14 now and I worry I won't have her much longer. I had 2 seal points growing up - both named Leo, LOL. Guess my family had no imagination.

 

[Hogie]

When leaving the thread, I noticed OP is from NY. See - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...gent-nys-outright-sales-ban-agenda-again.html

YEP, I have already sent a bulk email to all reps on the list. Wonder if they even read them once they see the title? I am sure they got a LOT! (Ya know how it is - once the mind is closed, nothing gets in.)

 

[Hogie]

Thanks! She is a sweetheart. Glad to hear yours lived so long, mine is 14 now and I worry I won't have her much longer. I had 2 seal points growing up - both named Leo, LOL. Guess my family had no imagination.

Starsong, I have an 8yearold himilayan seal point. He is my baby. Oliver is his name. Sorry the photo is so large....

 

[mamacat]

YEP, I have already sent a bulk email to all reps on the list. Wonder if they even read them once they see the title? I am sure they got a LOT! (Ya know how it is - once the mind is closed, nothing gets in.)

Talked to some folks today, too. My Southern drawl didn't give me away one bit either. lol Anyway, some offices got hit with some 800+ emails. Gives them food for thought!!

 

[starsong]

Oliver is a handsome guy! Looks so soft & cuddly

(sorry for going off topic folks, but just love these cats)

 

[Hogie]

Yes, he is, Starsong, and he loves to be cuddled.

As far as this ban in NY, I like all the attention it sounds like this is getting now. I hope we can change some minds! I sent info to the Time Warner Cable news (YNN.com) about the bill as a story suggestion as well. They cover the news of the whole state. I sent the same letter that I sent to the legislators that includes links for more info. I hope they research it and do a story.

 

[mamacat]

That would be awesome, Hogie! Please keep us informed.

 

[Hogie]

I saw a video of the story on the YNN webpage. They talked with a tobacco store employee who did not seem very thrilled about or knowledgeable on ecigs. Also the reporter seemed to have a negative oppinion on them as well. I wasted my time.......

The only positive was that the employee said they are not sold to minors at the store or online. Cannot be sold to anyone under 18.

 

[waywardsister]

Wondering if any of the vendors have been abole to use Google Checkout? Might be a viable option.

 

[mamacat]

I saw a video of the story on the YNN webpage. They talked with a tobacco store employee who did not seem very thrilled about or knowledgeable on ecigs. Also the reporter seemed to have a negative oppinion on them as well. I wasted my time.......

The only positive was that the employee said they are not sold to minors at the store or online. Cannot be sold to anyone under 18.

*sigh* That is good, though, that they said they are limiting to 18 years and older.

Wondering if any of the vendors have been abole to use Google Checkout? Might be a viable option.

Seems like I recall (again my memory doesn't always serve me) that it had been tried and was a no go, too.