https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcs3kdv97o
He Likes it overall, not that I really care either way. hehe.
He Likes it overall, not that I really care either way. hehe.
Pbsurado Finally Reviews REO
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Wow. After 7 full minutes, he actually starts to talk about the REO. 10 seconds later, I gave up.
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I didn't like his review He made it look messy and complicated when it's not! and whats with the tearing it a part it's a review not a rebuild video
I stopped watching after his gripes and suggestions- if he's been to the site, or even bothered to ask around, he'd know about the LP version and capabilities, button covers, etc, etc..
I know he fell short every were a Sony flat top when an AW IMR is recommended no O ring under the Cyclone
If I was Rob I would be very unhappy with that review
If I was Rob I would be very unhappy with that review
if you're going to publicly review something best be sure to have all the info you can muster.
3rd round draft pick….he might have potential but you can sure tell he is a rookie with a REO in his hand…..
I thought overall a so so review but badly let down by his lack of knowledge on the product.
I am shocked that he didn't do his homework or speak to some Reo owners first.
1) Button covers
2) New Reo's come factory fitted with the SO kit.
3) LP Reo's have milled top for use with any size atti.
4) VV Reos are no longer available - I think ??
I am shocked that he didn't do his homework or speak to some Reo owners first.
1) Button covers
2) New Reo's come factory fitted with the SO kit.
3) LP Reo's have milled top for use with any size atti.
4) VV Reos are no longer available - I think ??
It did kinda look bad from a Reonauts perspective. But all in all he did like it and has pointed out in his comments that most of his dislikes were covered. Not sure about tapping the mod to make it rattle I mean REALLY who does that. Mine has never rattled in normal use other than from a drop. He gets it now. If he were to love it as much as we do all his reviews would be like yeah it's alright but it's not a Reo. Then his reviews would lose what cred he has.
Nice to see the improvement from the rebuild kit. I'm sure he had to rebuild it otherwise it's a 45 second video: fill it, battery, vape. The end.
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I pointed out most of the information he missed a couple of days ago. He added some follow up information on his website. Taste Your Juice | Can I Taste Your Juice? He does this often if he misses something or finds additional information.
I did write him an email and told him I was disappointed he didn't do more research before he did the review.
I did write him an email and told him I was disappointed he didn't do more research before he did the review.
Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QOcs3kdv97o#t=1969
It was a really good review. Although most of us probably would prefer a much shorter video, it's important to recognize that we are not his intended audience. He dissects each product, as he received it, and describes every little thing that he thinks might be relevant to (the uninitiated) prospective consumer, whether it bothers him personally or not.
In this case, Busardo probably should have spent more time on the manufacturer's (Reosmods) website, but in his defense I'll make two observations:
1.) Busardo received his Reo from a third party (MountainOakVapors.com), and so it was valid for him to evaluate the product he received in isolation, because clearly it's getting sold that way,
2.) The Reo website is usable, but it isn't exactly super informative.
My suspicion is that Phil's review would have gone from highly positive to flat-out worshipful if he'd got his hands on a VV Grand, but the VV Grand is no longer available (or so I understand; I can still dig up a VV product page on the Reo website, but I see no option to buy one). By the same token, the upgrade kit that Phil laboriously installed in his video now comes standard on the Reos bought at the main site, but it's not obvious from reading the Reo site that the "repair kit" is synonymous with the sub-ohm upgrade. Since Busardo's Reo is an older model, he had to install the accompanying kit, and he had to do it on camera to show people how easy or hard it is to do so. (And to test for an improvement in voltage-drop performance.)
It's also worth noting that Busardo didn't exactly complain about rattle in the video. He pointed out that the bottle can rattle inside the device if the bottle isn't seated correctly, which is more of a helpful tip than a criticism of the device. He noted later (in the 'thumbs' down' segment) that the door isn't super secure, but there he basically admitted he was nitpicking. ("Let's talk about thumbs down ... I don't really have a whole lot to say!")
His two other complaints (if you can call them that) concerned the button and the fit of atomizers -- and both of those can obviously be addressed by options at the Reo store (button covers, LP mods). Phil has issued a correction on that last point on his website: Taste Your Juice | BY YOUR REQUEST… THE REO GRAND
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ha, the funny thing is, when I first got my reo last year that was my first 3 thoughts too, this thing needs regulation, this thing needs to be milled flat to accept larger atties, and this door is way too loose for my liking, so I just went and fixed all that
since then, milling the reo has really caught on, guess not so much luck as far as the regulated part though I completely understand robs position on regulated though, he doesn't need to deal with all that to sell mods, and with the new contacts it's much better than it was, that's for sure...
overall I think he gave a pretty good review, you can't expect him to gush over it and love it more than anything else game over type deal, def would have been better if he knew a little more about what's available as far as milled top and button cover and SO kit already in the mod, but these things don't hurt the review all that much... overall I see his review as not really swaying someone one way or the other though so at least theres nothing really negative there, that would be the thing to really worry about, a negative review
since then, milling the reo has really caught on, guess not so much luck as far as the regulated part though
I completely understand robs position on regulated though, he doesn't need to deal with all that to sell mods, and with the new contacts it's much better than it was, that's for sure... overall I think he gave a pretty good review, you can't expect him to gush over it and love it more than anything else game over type deal, def would have been better if he knew a little more about what's available as far as milled top and button cover and SO kit already in the mod, but these things don't hurt the review all that much... overall I see his review as not really swaying someone one way or the other though so at least theres nothing really negative there, that would be the thing to really worry about, a negative review
He definitely missed some information, glad he corrected it on his website. Overall it wasn't a bad review, his preference favors regulated mods so I didn't expect him to go crazy about it. Then again, we already have REOs, we know they are worth going crazy about .
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Look at it this way too -
He's coming at the review from a consumer perspective, not a REO enthusiast perspective. You guys know the ins and outs and the tweaks and things like having to buy button covers, etc. Not everyone's going to get a device and immediately start tweaking it - and a lot of people don't want to. He's reviewing it as it was received from the vendor.
Disclaimer: I do not own a REO!
He's coming at the review from a consumer perspective, not a REO enthusiast perspective. You guys know the ins and outs and the tweaks and things like having to buy button covers, etc. Not everyone's going to get a device and immediately start tweaking it - and a lot of people don't want to.
He's reviewing it as it was received from the vendor.Disclaimer: I do not own a REO!
i reckoned his thoughts on the button were fair and i speak as someone that either melted or wrecked them in short order. The new button in the kit is holding up well.
For the same reason i'm not a fan of the button covers, because the tendency is to press harder and harder to get the Reo to fire, rather than just clean the damn thing! The new kits ought to mean that routine maintenance is less frequent, but it's too early to say.
I WAS impressed with his squonking which can take months to develop an intuitive feel for!
For the record, Turbocad's modded DNA30 grand is one of the best i have ever seen.
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For the same reason i'm not a fan of the button covers, because the tendency is to press harder and harder to get the Reo to fire, rather than just clean the damn thing! The new kits ought to mean that routine maintenance is less frequent, but it's too early to say.
I WAS impressed with his squonking which can take months to develop an intuitive feel for!
For the record, Turbocad's modded DNA30 grand is one of the best i have ever seen.
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I can honestly say it is the first time I have ever been disappointed with any of his reviews. I suppose some of it was selfish pride because I am using a reo but I just did not like the way he kept saying "it has potential". Wrong choice of words in my opinion and said way to many times. Vaping improves and changes everyday. Any thing that I own so far would fall under the "potential" category as far as that is concerned. I just know that if my vaping doesn't ever get any better than it is right now using the reo...... I'll be happy for a long time. Just my 3¢ (inflation).
Look at it this way too -
He's coming at the review from a consumer perspective, not a REO enthusiast perspective. You guys know the ins and outs and the tweaks and things like having to buy button covers, etc. Not everyone's going to get a device and immediately start tweaking it - and a lot of people don't want to.
Disclaimer: I do not own a REO!
But he is a reviewer. He is supposed to do a little research before he reviews. He obviously did the minimum because he did the upgrade exactly like Rob does in the video. He just didn't take time to look around at anything else.
I think it was a good review, from the reviewers standpoint. I was as disappointed as others here that he didn't do his homework.
I had no idea that the VV Grands were not going to be available. If I had a complaint, it would be about the Reos website. I don't find it as informative or up to date as I would like. If I didn't frequent these forums and others, I would have really been pretty clueless as to what I wanted, what I should include in my order etc. I need pretty clear instructions. I get them from fellow Reonauts and I trust the information I have received. My Reo works like a charm and is my favorite vape after only a couple weeks of ownership, so the information must be top notch.
I had no idea that the VV Grands were not going to be available. If I had a complaint, it would be about the Reos website. I don't find it as informative or up to date as I would like. If I didn't frequent these forums and others, I would have really been pretty clueless as to what I wanted, what I should include in my order etc. I need pretty clear instructions. I get them from fellow Reonauts and I trust the information I have received. My Reo works like a charm and is my favorite vape after only a couple weeks of ownership, so the information must be top notch.
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