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Pediatricians say no e-cigs

Discussion in 'Legislation News' started by TropicalBob, Oct 21, 2009.

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  1. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2008
    Port Charlotte, FL USA
    This is a pretty radical proposal. Last paragraph nails e-cigs.

    AAP Calls For Tobacco-Free Environments For All Children
  2. Dredbull

    Dredbull Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Which Pharmacy sells ecig?
    That statement seems a bit rushed and not thought out.
  3. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2008
    Port Charlotte, FL USA
    They're talking about a ban on selling tobacco products in pharmacies. That's not a new proposal. Many other groups have said it's somehow not right to sell cigarettes at the front of a store that sells cancer meds at the rear. Just saying ...

    The statement about e-cigs is contained in one sentence.
  4. BigJimW

    BigJimW Moved On ECF Veteran

    May 17, 2009
    Warwick, RI
    But, where is the convieniance?

    But I love how they just mention e-cigs in passing. Just tossed it in there like just another robot organization that can't think for themselves.

    No wonder this country is going to Hell. Nobody can think for themselves anymore.

    (God, how I miss the days when a new dad could just pass out cigars to his friends at the birth of their son or daughter. They won't even let you pass out electronic ones. :()
  5. jerrydon10

    jerrydon10 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    I know this is a serious thread, but I must comment. My girlfriend from NJ was down awhile ago and noticed a hospice next door to a funeral home with a graveyard in the back. She cracked up.

    I said, "Yep, in Missouri we are totally into convenience."

    Same attitude as the pharmacies. ;)
  6. geeker

    geeker Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 12, 2009
    Neither here nor there
    It's been said before...
    There are people, like myself, who are nicotine addicts.
    Their bodies/brains have been programmed not to function normally without it.
    If someone would have kicked my behind to a new location near my shoulder blades, MAYBE I would not have started smoking at 15, but I did. You cannot reason with certain hardheaded people.
    Now there is something that is likely 1000 times less harmful to me and those around me than smoking cigarettes, and they have to but/butt in (pun?) and give a blanket rejection of even the slightest possibility that vaping is a satisfactory replacement for the cigarettes they know will kill us one way or another.
    Makes me want to puke.
  7. VinnieVapor

    VinnieVapor Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2009
    Near Montreal QC
    Here in Quebec (probably the same in other provinces) pharmacies had to stop selling cigarettes for many years. It only make sense to me.

    They recently introduce a new law and now cigarettes must be hidden in every store. You cannot see the packs ! You have to know what you want. This is also a good move. Feel free to differ.
  8. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2008
    Port Charlotte, FL USA
    They don't want you to replace cigs with anything. They don't want anyone using any cig -- e or otherwise. It's quit or die for these hard-cores. For these folks, they don't want any child to ever start down Tobacco Road. We did. Our bad. The road is coming to a dead end.
  9. ladyraj

    ladyraj Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 30, 2009
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Do-gooders in the cult of holier than thou that attempt to adopt omnipotent powers to dictate behavior ultimately end up ignored and the cult dissipates. The sooner the better in my book! :)

    Good luck in the election TBob!
  10. boxhead

    boxhead Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 3, 2009
    Chico, california
    is tobacco going to stricken from the history books too? sheeez, its almost like their not even real humans beings. the irony of it is tobacco users go underground ( see? irony ).
  11. geeker

    geeker Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 12, 2009
    Neither here nor there
    Maybe all of the tobacco farmers can switch to the other smokeable leafy plant which seems to get less restricted day to day and is becoming more accepted by the medical community for treatment of all kinds of maladies. Not that it would treat my malady. Think I'll get banned for hinting at *it*? I'm speaking strictly of medically approved usage.
  12. Toots

    Toots Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2009
  13. littlewing58

    littlewing58 Full Member

    Oct 3, 2009
    Southern Indiana
    Don't be so blind, every strategy and decision made in regards to tobacco usage (the smoking kind) will be based around "profit". Yeah, they might be trying to ween us all off,,, but don't think for one minute that they won't milk it for all it's worth on it's way out.
  14. Toots

    Toots Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2009
    I don't think they want to wean smokers off cigarettes at all. They need the smokers to pay much more. And again, they need the smokers as villains. E-cigs don't fit the agenda. So, e-cigs have to go, or at least be categorized the same as analogs. Same taxes, same stigma, same banishment of those who use them.
  15. Furius

    Furius Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 29, 2009
    If only they were as concerned about children using alcohol as they were about them smoking. In high school, I was one of maybe 30 people in my whole graduating class that smoked cigarettes and it was wildly unpopular. However, I would wager that 90 percent of my graduating class engaged in alcohol use. .XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXI wish they would approach off of this stuff the same way they approach sex education. They contend over and over again that most young people will engage in sexual behavior, so it is best to promote safety over abstinence. If only they viewed my electronic smoking in the same way. I guess diseases like Aids, Herpes, and HPV aren't as high on the list as lung cancer. I just want some damn consistency.
  16. dreho

    dreho Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2009
    Maine, US
    I know at least some CVS Pharmacies used to sell Njoy, not sure if they still do or how big that chain is anymore, still available on their web site though...
  17. Hunter3783

    Hunter3783 Full Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 10, 2009
    North Carolina
    I've heard that a few gas stations around my neck of the woods sold e-cigs at one point. I've been looking recently and have found no trace of them.

    And it all does come down to profit...tobacco companies pay those in power to restrict/eliminate competition.

    I'm new to e-cigs and this forum. I've been vaping for less than a week and haven't touched a cigarette since I began. Already I feel like I've finally been released by the hold traditional tobacco cigarettes had on me, and it feels wonderful. And I know I'm addicted to nicotine, but at least I'm not inhaling thousands of harmful and toxic chemicals.

    My guess is that most people who are anti-ecigs don't know what it's like to have your life ruled by tobacco cigs, and how free it feels to get away from them with the help of e-cigs.
  18. JamieJ

    JamieJ Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2009
    Washington State
    Thank you Furius! I was thinking the same thing. If only people would be as concerned with youth drinking alcohol. In my smaller town in washington they sell alcohol in the pharmacy and in open site in most grocery stores. Seriously, the dangers and costs to our society being under the influence of alcohol seems much more dangerous to me than being under the influence of nicotine. Also what about the dangers and national epidemic of obesity in children? Will they hide candy bars and cheetos? I just dont get the logic.
  19. jwood

    jwood Full Member

    Oct 10, 2009
    Amen, almost to four weeks here... feels great! btw I dare you to go try and smoke an analog after a week on e-cigs... I tried it and lasted 2 hits before i put it out in disgust lol!
  20. Oogie

    Oogie Full Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Interesting article. I understand the point of view of this but still. I would love to know the basis of evidence they used to include Ecigs in this matter.
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