People think our Vaporizers could randomly explode?

[stillnotsmoking]

I've had literally hundreds of batteries during my lifetime and not one of them has exploded but all have had reasonable care. So, I have no worries.

I'll say ive put li-ions through some hell, (ecigs, laptop, cell phone and specifically with construction equipment over the years and I've NEVER had a failure much less an explosion. Fear mongering, plain and simple.

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[optsmk]

Hahaaaaa, here is a good story. Exploding Samsung Galaxy phone leaves teenager with third degree burns and smelling like a 'burnt pig' | Mail Online I suppose if you put any electronic device in a bad situation, it can short. Like if you put it in a small tight pocket, or sit in it or whatever. But I don't think you can sue over it, can you? I mean if you hit your self in the face with a hammer, can you sue the hammer company for making an unsafe tool?

 

[Talyon]

Hahaaaaa, here is a good story. Exploding Samsung Galaxy phone leaves teenager with third degree burns and smelling like a 'burnt pig' | Mail Online I suppose if you put any electronic device in a bad situation, it can short. Like if you put it in a small tight pocket, or sit in it or whatever. But I don't think you can sue over it, can you? I mean if you hit your self in the face with a hammer, can you sue the hammer company for making an unsafe tool?

Hmmmm very interesting, my thumb still aches years after the Hammer Incedent. Perhaps I'll see my lawyer. Lol

 

[Ryedan]

For the most part though, most newbie stuff like Joyetech ego twists etc. have excellent excellent protection cirucuitry. It is pretty hard to make one of those blow up etc. And many mods that have circuitry, i.e., VV, etc. are going to have reverse batt, low batt, short protection. Mecahnicals are a little trickier in that way

Actually, the last few PV batteries I can remember reading about exploding/burning were eGos. Remember the one that went in the unattended car while charging on a hot day ? Flew into the back seat and burned a hole in it. There was speculation it was the wrong charger, but the heat might have had something to do with it too.

Mechs are riskier in that there is no built in protection, but I can't think of one that has exploded/burned lately. And there are a lot of newbs using them now, sometimes with no idea about what they are doing with them.

 

[Ryedan]

Saw this sig in a post on CPF the other day:

"Most batteries don't die - they are tortured to near death, then murdered."

Priceless!

 

[B1sh0p]

Let me see now... how many battery-operated devices do I actually have in my hand every day? Well.... cell phone, house wireless phone, car keys, remote control, mouse, diabetic monitor, magnifying glass light, old cell phone for alarms... oh, and my Egos and Erolls of course. I have never had a problem with any of them. Not all are lithium of course but included them because, being an old gal, I remember when they were feared too.

The issue with vaporizers and batteries is that hobbyists push them to their very limit. They can explode. They do explode. Learn how to use them and you'll be fine, but lets not pretend the possibility isn't there.

 

[wv2win]

Isn't great that the majority of mainstream media loves to take one or two incidences of someone being very stupid, leave out the part about how stupid the person was and then sensationalize the story to push their agenda which happens to support the positions of the politicians calling for severe restrictions on vaping. And then the idiots who get their "news" by reading headlines only and believing every word of the headlines go and vote for the same politicians wanting to control every aspect of our lives. A nice, neat, pathetic, vicious circle.

 

[Racehorse]

The issue with vaporizers and batteries is that hobbyists push them to their very limit. They can explode. They do explode. Learn how to use them and you'll be fine, but lets not pretend the possibility isn't there.

Thank yhou B1sh0p.

Interestingly, the forum members over at lighthound, candlepower, and traxxas don't seem to have the attitude or paranoia that some people on ecig forums do.

They are all very open, and quite clear, about battery safety and malfunctions, and I believe this is a service to their community. They are invested in keeping each other educated and most of all, SAFE. There is no outcry when batteries that have malfunctioned are pictured on the forums.

I think some people forget that hobbyists who use lithium batteries have been around for a long time, and so have their forums, for longer than ecigs have been popular.

I see absolutely no reason not to talk about it, and I believe that those who think we shouldn't only serve to make us into "laughingstock" in communities where battery safety, and malfunctions are OPENLY discussed. This stuff is important and timely subject matter in every other community where such batteries and gear are discussed!


W2win, you are correct that such things will be sensationalized by our detractors, but I have no plan on becoming as stupid and ignorant as they are. By giving in to them, and subscribing to their agenda, we are not improving anything IMHO. That is why I believe in being open.

 

[Racehorse]

And please understand, there are a number of reported incidents where new vapers had smoldering batts in their purses or pockets, because they put loose batts in there with keys and coins.

To pretend that every newbie knows all the ins and outs of safety is to be in denial. My feeling is that we are here to help each other, and keep each other safe, as a community, not "cow-tow" to ANTZ who may use the information in a malicious way.

I am in dog rescue and I see the same attitude toward PETA. I don't like PETA, but that is not going to keep me from putting the information out there about the terrible abuse cases I see with dogs each and every week. It is not my problem how PETA uses this information, but I am certainly not going to keep it secret because people NEED to know this stuff EXISTS.

 

[wv2win]

...................W2win, you are correct that such things will be sensationalized by our detractors, but I have no plan on becoming as stupid and ignorant as they are. By giving in to them, and subscribing to their agenda, we are not improving anything IMHO. That is why I believe in being open.

I agree with you completely. I welcome "full disclosure and complete information" that shows how to use batteries safely. I'm sick of the manipulation by the majority of the media about vaping and how so many Americans are fine with how information is "dumbed down" because we are too lazy or self-involved to truely understand a particular issue.

 

[wv2win]

And please understand, there are a number of reported incidents where new vapers had smoldering batts in their purses or pockets, because they put loose batts in there with keys and coins.

To pretend that every newbie knows all the ins and outs of safety is to be in denial. My feeling is that we are here to help each other, and keep each other safe, as a community, not "cow-tow" to ANTZ who may use the information in a malicious way.

I am in dog rescue and I see the same attitude toward PETA. I don't like PETA, but that is not going to keep me from putting the information out there about the terrible abuse cases I see with dogs each and every week. It is not my problem how PETA uses this information, but I am certainly not going to keep it secret because people NEED to know this stuff EXISTS.

I am also in both dog and cat rescue efforts and agree with your points.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Batteries are volatile, especially lithium batteries. Bad things can happen when you concentrate that much energy in such a small package. Couple that with ignorant users or unusual circumstances, and there is the potential for bad things to happen. RC cars, cell phones, laptops, flashlights,....even the Tesla automobile.

 

[JMarca]

Vaporizers don't randomly explode, batteries do. Always use caution when you use batteries close to your face. Batteries just like humans are not perfect. Sometimes mixing battery failure with human error makes the perfect storm.

 

[EvilZoe]

I don't take issue with the discussion of batteries and what can go wrong with them. What bothers me is how the media will say, "Will your e cig blow up in your face?" and then go on to talk about the dangers of e cigs rather than focusing on the batteries themselves and how they are in devices all around us that have nothing to do with e cigs.

 

[Racehorse]

I don't take issue with the discussion of batteries and what can go wrong with them. What bothers me is how the media will say, "Will your e cig blow up in your face?" and then go on to talk about the dangers of e cigs rather than focusing on the batteries themselves and how they are in devices all around us that have nothing to do with e cigs.

EZ,

I can't control what other people say or do. I can only control what I say and do.

By allowing my adversaries to control what I talk about means that they have won.


I do not believe in cultivating powerlessness in people. "Running scared" is not the mind-set of a winner---- "staying the course" is.

Anybody who has met a difficult challenge in life knows that there will be many ups and downs, and many losses on the way to winning their battles.

Knee jerking is a waste of time and energy. Manipulators know this. When they get you knee jerking to their dance music then you have been reduced to a puppet.

I am not a puppet for the ANTZ, but I"m not a puppet for the vaping industry either. I can't serve the cause that way because it renders me useless......sort of like watered down ejuice with no flavor. I do not waste time being paranoid, angry and fearful though.

 

[Rabbit Chaser]

The first thing my mum said when I told her I was vaping was "but those can blow up in your face." I doubt it. I'm very well researched and use a reputable shop well-known for education ALL customers, even showing them how to vape, how to build coils properly and offering any assistance ever needed.