Pet peeves, complaints, suggestions and ideas for suppliers.

[thegrindre]

Hi all,
Thought I'd start a thread to help all the suppliers out there who wish to make a better 'mouse trap'.

I'll go first to make a list of my three biggest pet peeves.
1. Top of the list is juice bottles. My number one complaint is the hard plastic bottles. These things should be made of a softer, more pliable plastic for easier squeezing. Us old farts have arthritis and other hand a finger ailments.
2. Gotta say that the round PV should be made squarish or, at least have a flat section made on them to keep it from rolling off the table.
3. All PV's should be made with bigger juice cups. In other words, they all should be made XL.

Those are my three biggest suggested improvements that the industry should improve upon.

What are yours? Maybe they will listen...

Have fun,

 

[unfaithful]

haha! I agree with the juice bottle thing. Its a real bugger. I have a this 30ml menthol bottle and its virtually impossible to squeeze anything out of it. I once squeezed it too hard and dropped a good 20 drops in there and flooded my battery, pfft.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

A Monkeyboxx takes care of complaints #2 and #3 at the same time!

Agreed on #1, though. Some 30ml bottles are very hard to squeeze. I have some very soft, comfortable 15 and 20ml bottles from Gourmet Vapor and OneStopDIYShop.

 

[mwa102464]

I'm not sure this is it but, = I think the problem with to thin of a juice bottle is once they get that thin you may have to worry about the plastic leeching into your juice, I would rather have a more rugged bottle so there is no chance of this.

As for juice cups I'm all for a bigger overflow catch cup then the small finish washer type they use on some Mods as well.

My biggest pet peeve is I want better performing Atomizers from the manufacturers, by now we should be getting Attys that are super Attys and were not, the potential of Atomizers is out there and it's time they start producing Genesis type Attys or even better in a small 510 like size or even an 801 size, this would be my want and cover my needs.

 

[thegrindre]

I'm not sure this is it but, = I think the problem with to thin of a juice bottle is once they get that thin you may have to worry about the plastic leeching into your juice, I would rather have a more rugged bottle so there is no chance of this.

As for juice cups I'm all for a bigger overflow catch cup then the small finish washer type they use on some Mods as well.

My biggest pet peeve is I want better performing Atomizers from the manufacturers, by now we should be getting Attys that are super Attys and were not, the potential of Atomizers is out there and it's time they start producing Genesis type Attys or even better in a small 510 like size or even an 801 size, this would be my want and cover my needs.

YES! Must agree. Cartos and or attys should and can be made to more perfection. It would be my 4th suggestion.

Enjoy,

 

[thegrindre]

I'm not sure this is it but, = I think the problem with to thin of a juice bottle is once they get that thin you may have to worry about the plastic leeching into your juice, I would rather have a more rugged bottle so there is no chance of this.

As for juice cups I'm all for a bigger overflow catch cup then the small finish washer type they use on some Mods as well.

My biggest pet peeve is I want better performing Atomizers from the manufacturers, by now we should be getting Attys that are super Attys and were not, the potential of Atomizers is out there and it's time they start producing Genesis type Attys or even better in a small 510 like size or even an 801 size, this would be my want and cover my needs.

Well then, all juice should be put in glass bottles with a squeezy eye dropper thingy on them.

Outlaw plastic bottles all together.
I'm for it!

 

[VpnDrgn]

My biggest gripe about vendors is the lack of descriptions for juice flavors.
I mean come on, strawberry cream is obvious, but what the hell is
"oba oba" or "hypnotic mist" supposed to be?!

I was looking at a website that had over 30 flavors and only half were obvious names,
the rest had intriguing names but no description.

To add insult to injury are the sites that have some really inane blurb for a description.
Like "Relax in the evening with "Smooth Sunset""....WTF!!!
I am just paraphrasing, but there was an actual website that had many flavor names
that were very abstract and that was the kind of description they provided.

I know taste is highly subjective, but if you design a flavor, you know what the desired
result is, so you should be able to give a reasonable description!
Even if a vendor does not make their own juice, I would think they would know what
the hell they are stocking!

Ok, rant over, Vape on People

 

[thegrindre]

My biggest gripe about vendors is the lack of descriptions for juice flavors.
I mean come on, strawberry cream is obvious, but what the hell is
"oba oba" or "hypnotic mist" supposed to be?!

I was looking at a website that had over 30 flavors and only half were obvious names,
the rest had intriguing names but no description.

To add insult to injury are the sites that have some really inane blurb for a description.
Like "Relax in the evening with "Smooth Sunset""....WTF!!!
I am just paraphrasing, but there was an actual website that had many flavor names
that were very abstract and that was the kind of description they provided.

I know taste is highly subjective, but if you design a flavor, you know what the desired
result is, so you should be able to give a reasonable description!
Even if a vendor does not make their own juice, I would think they would know what
the hell they are stocking!

Ok, rant over, Vape on People

Excellent! I agree 101%
That is a great point that suppliers should pay a mind to.

Enjoy!

 

[Creniker]

Agree with suppliers discriptions, and attys and cartomizers need to be better. I think modders that make all these great options to try to build should take there inventions mainstream. Id spend 30 bucks on a tank or cartomizer that actaully worked.

 

[DragonflyVaper]

I most definitely agree with mwa concerning attys. This is my biggest frustration with vaping. I would be willing to pay a premium price for an atty that performs for months/year with a guarantee. I understand the concept of mfg's and distributors cashing in on us for replacement parts but the attys need lifespan improvement. It's horrible to throw these metal non decomposing attys away after very little usage. Constant cleaning and reviving is also a pain in the ..... There should be discounts given to return dead atties to recycle. IMO, at $5 plus for an atty, the overall lifespan sucks big time.

I'm not sure this is it but, = I think the problem with to thin of a juice bottle is once they get that thin you may have to worry about the plastic leeching into your juice, I would rather have a more rugged bottle so there is no chance of this.

As for juice cups I'm all for a bigger overflow catch cup then the small finish washer type they use on some Mods as well.

My biggest pet peeve is I want better performing Atomizers from the manufacturers, by now we should be getting Attys that are super Attys and were not, the potential of Atomizers is out there and it's time they start producing Genesis type Attys or even better in a small 510 like size or even an 801 size, this would be my want and cover my needs.

 

[tearose50]

Yes -- more consistency and longevity of atty's and cartos would be quite welcome for many reasons.....and some are working on it, it seems. Ohhh -- how about a self cleaning atty? That's a concept!

 

[gramakittycat]

I agree with the need for flavor descriptions but my peeve is shipping .Many suppliers have now offered the less costly first class option and I thank them for that .I get my orders in the same time as priority and I can't justify paying priority prices when my orders are usually quite small.I mean $5.oo for one bottle of juice!? Continue to offer priority but give us the cheaper first class choice also.

 

[Iffy]

A small, but nonetheless, irritant is when you go to a site, select a category and then you have to page down past their home page logo to find what you're looking for.

Another pet peeve, only selling 15 or 30 ml bottles... arrrrrrgh...

 

[Jerk]

PLEASE PLEASE, list whether you have international shipping or not. Don't make me go through 3 different links to find out whether you do.

And if you don't offer international shipping do so please

 

[swedishfish]

My biggest gripe about vendors is the lack of descriptions for juice flavors.
I mean come on, strawberry cream is obvious, but what the hell is
"oba oba" or "hypnotic mist" supposed to be?!

I was looking at a website that had over 30 flavors and only half were obvious names,
the rest had intriguing names but no description.

To add insult to injury are the sites that have some really inane blurb for a description.
Like "Relax in the evening with "Smooth Sunset""....WTF!!!
I am just paraphrasing, but there was an actual website that had many flavor names
that were very abstract and that was the kind of description they provided.

I know taste is highly subjective, but if you design a flavor, you know what the desired
result is, so you should be able to give a reasonable description!
Even if a vendor does not make their own juice, I would think they would know what
the hell they are stocking!

Ok, rant over, Vape on People

OMG, that made me choke on my apple! Too funny!

 

[Diablo]

Another pet peeve, only selling 15 or 30 ml bottles... arrrrrrgh...

My peeve as well, lets see more 60ml and 120 ml with discounts to support it.

Another peeve is the wire they use in carto's, seems that it could be twice the thickness and length, but I guess they would last to long, unless its some kind of ohms law reason for it.

 

[Maxine]

To add to the juice bottle/flavor bottle peeve, I'd like to have a choice of either child-proof or non-child-proof bottles.

P.S. Oba-oba flavor "unleashes the child inside yourself," in which case child-proof bottles are pretty self-defeating...

 

[madcow]

My biggest gripe about vendors is the lack of descriptions for juice flavors.
I mean come on, strawberry cream is obvious, but what the hell is
"oba oba" or "hypnotic mist" supposed to be?!

I was looking at a website that had over 30 flavors and only half were obvious names,
the rest had intriguing names but no description.

To add insult to injury are the sites that have some really inane blurb for a description.
Like "Relax in the evening with "Smooth Sunset""....WTF!!!
I am just paraphrasing, but there was an actual website that had many flavor names
that were very abstract and that was the kind of description they provided.

I know taste is highly subjective, but if you design a flavor, you know what the desired
result is, so you should be able to give a reasonable description!
Even if a vendor does not make their own juice, I would think they would know what
the hell they are stocking!

Ok, rant over, Vape on People

Yep, I read those descriptions and say yeah, not buying that one.

 

[kmets89]

I totally agree with vpndrgn. Also, I wish more juice vendors would have a little more hardware. I would love to be able to pick up an atty or a pack of good cartomizers with my juice.

 

[fray]

My peeve as well, lets see more 60ml and 120 ml with discounts to support it.

Another peeve is the wire they use in carto's, seems that it could be twice the thickness and length, but I guess they would last to long, unless its some kind of ohms law reason for it.

For specific gauge of nichrome wire there is a certain number of ohms per foot (calculated down to inches to get the correct length). I thicker wire would have to be much shorter. A thinner wire would be longer and have more surface area but would not last as long. So it comes down to a compromise on quality of vape and longevity.