PG free juice and my first attempt at e-liquid

[SuperSteph]

I just did my first attempt at DIY e-liquid. This is the process I used: Simmered 2 bags of green tea in 1 cup of water. added the contents of 4 cigarette tobacco, filtered out solids, and reduced to 10ml. I took a sample of 3ml, added 2ml Glycerin (humco from walmart) and .5ml vodka (was curious to see if it would have any effect)
so far i can say the taste is very mellow. not a whole lot of flavor. however, the hit is really smooth which is what i was hoping for. it seems i have a sensitivity to PG so thats why i made this liquid. As for nicotine content, I can't say exactly, probably around 4-5mg/ml. i concentrated everything by putting it in an open jar on a cup warmer, it took about a day for it all to evap, but that was my only option due to certian circumstances.
The other question is if there is any known PG free juices?

 

[Kimmiegrif]

I think JC has pg free. could you taste the grn tea?

 

[SuperSteph]

not really, It's hard to tell. I can mostly just taste the glycerin, i think i put in too much, it's very sweet. good thing i didn't mix all of it. I don't think my strep throat is helping either. Next time i'll try using more water to help the osmosis process, and use more tea.

 

[TropicalBob]

Steph, both PG and VG are humectants, and, if the vapor coats the back of your throat, can create a sore throat by drying it out. Suck hard candies, drink some honey-type liquid, anything to keep the throat moist. And, yes, glycerine is super sweet. That's why I like it, in fact. The aftertaste is great -- if you have a sweet tooth.

 

[SuperSteph]

Well, It took a while but I'm finally getting some flavor, though it's just the flavor of the tobacco. good flavor though, tastes very much like the donor cigs, although very mild. I need a better way to get Nicotine, I've tried mixing some of this juice with the marl juice and i still get that very harsh hit. I thinned it out some more by adding 1ml of the base juice, and .5ml of vanilla extract. I think viscosity is an important factor, the vaping is inconsistant. The hit is very mild, very smooth. just need to find a way to determine the nic content and i'm all set.
Bob: it's either the PG or another ingredient that is burning my throat. i don't have a real way to test yet.

 

[TropicalBob]

The flavors of so many e-liquids are so wimpish that sucking a hard candy actually helps from a taste standpoint. Peppermint mimics menthol. Nips for coffee flavor. Etc. They might help the burning in the throat. I don't really appreciate that throat hit, and prefer something like RY4, which I find quite smooth.

 

[Schroedinger's cat]

As TropicalBob said, the burning may derive from drying out. I think that all e-smokers woke up after the first day of happy vaping wondering what happened to their throats. After that, I followed the suggestions in this forum, and drank water before going to bed (and even gargled for a couple of nights). After a few days, I apparently got used to the whole thing and had no further problems. VG would have the same effect as PG, I believe.

 

[SuperSteph]

no the problem is the immediate feeling. it's not like, after a few puffs or a few days, it's very immediate on the first puff, it irritates my throat. so far with this homemade liquid with VG, i haven't felt that.

 

[Schroedinger's cat]

Somewhere in this forum (but I don't know where) I read that a few people are sensitive to PG. However, I don't know what symptoms this would entail. You may be one such person. In that case, I guess VG is the way to go for you....

 

[Grenage]

It works the same way with Glycerol, too. I wouldn't say I was allergic to it, but I felt my throat swell very slightly and was rather 'phlegmy'. It would truly suck to have adverse reactions to both compounds.

 

[SuperSteph]

it might be whats in the flavoring too, or some people think it's the nicotine but i've yet to try a zero nic cart. i know my juice has some nicotine, question is, how much. overall, i like the flavor even if it's mild.

 

[edisme518123]

The same thing happened to me for the first week, but almost instantaneously stopped happening after just a day or two into the second week. I think there's about a week-long "get used to it" period that you need to get over first.

 

[SuperSteph]

it's curious though i still get the slight smell of tobacco. i'm sure i extracted a lot of the essential oils to so i think thats giving the smell. what happens if i get the water boiling? i know the essential oils will evaporate but will the flavors still be there?
I'm also trying to seperate the solids more by putting the juice in a syringe, and letting the contents settle then squease them out the bottom. it may take a couple days for it to settle, i think i need a centerfuge.

 

[SuperSteph]

I'm trying some new flavors, i have found that you need a lot more glycerin. it's now 80% glycerin and 20% flavor. I'm looking for better ways to add nicotine. maybe some 36mg juice dilluted. or even condense it down to get rid of the flavors and add glycerin to make up for the lost fluid.

 

[SANJP]

Ive just bought some vegetable glycerine and tried it strait and to be honest it has no kick or taste I only bought it as everyone says its what make juice taste sweet and thats what I love all im getting is tons of smoke/vapour.

Anyone else noticed this ?

 

[SuperSteph]

I found that evaporating the alcohol in the juice it seemed to be a bit smoother. the higher the VG there was more vapor. i think it's actually the flavoring that causes the throat hit.

 

[jjross85]

I'm thinking of buying some veggie glycerin and trying some in JC's juice to see if it gives more vapor. JC's already has plenty of throat hit in my opinion so it might make for a pretty good mix. Anyone tried this?

 

[SuperSteph]

I've found that higher VG= more vapor, but i think it makes the solution too thick if you add too much, impeding on the capilary action of the fibers. so the end result is more vapor, but you need to top off the cart more often. thats at least, in my experience. it will dillute the flavor so if you're gonna mix it with some other juice, i'd recommend adding more flavor.