Pg/vg

Status
Not open for further replies.

Kryyptyk

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 26, 2014
231
282
Austin, TX, USA
I was just wondering what PG/VG mix give you the best flavor with decent vapor production.
I like the 50/50 ratio, seems to be the best of both worlds, delivering good flavor with large vapor production. For some stronger flavors I'll go with max VG as the flavor will come through clear as day anyway, might as well have top notch vapor. :vapor:
 

Timactionfigures

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 23, 2014
153
158
Boringhamton, NY, USA
PG carries more flavor and provides more throat hit, while VG diminishes flavor but produces more visible vapor. VG is also thicker and can lead to wicking issues/gunked up attys.

I go back and forth from 50 PG/50 VG to 65 PG/35 VG to 80 PG/20 VG and honestly don't really prefer any one mix over the other.
 

Rickajho

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 23, 2011
11,841
21,763
Boston MA
You really have to sort that one out for yourself. Some of it falls to personal preference, some of it depends on if you simply find PG too harsh for your own tastes, some of it depends on the hardware you like to use. If you are flat out unsure split the difference at 50/50 on a couple bottles and adjust your preference either way on your next order. More PG = more throat hit, and possibly sharper flavor, at the expense of vapor. More VG = tons of vapor, at the expense of throat hit.
 

Gonzi

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 6, 2014
484
300
Marietta, GA, USA
I don't understand why people keep blaming VG for gunking up coils, that is simply not the case. Wicking issues due to being too thick, yes, but VG doesn't gunk up coils, it's the flavorings that do. Same is the case with PG.

I prefer 70 - 100% VG in my mixes and vendor liquids, the highest PG I can go is 50/50. For me, PG is not to increase throat hit, it is to iritate the throat.
 

Hypatia

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 6, 2013
893
2,234
Titletown, USA
I don't understand why people keep blaming VG for gunking up coils, that is simply not the case. Wicking issues due to being too thick, yes, but VG doesn't gunk up coils, it's the flavorings that do. Same is the case with PG.

I prefer 70 - 100% VG in my mixes and vendor liquids, the highest PG I can go is 50/50. For me, PG is not to increase throat hit, it is to iritate the throat.

Yeah, it's definitely not the VG. I'm running 100%VG unflavored DIY mix (so defnitely 100%VG plus a bit of distilled water to thin it, I made it, lol). I'm running 1.2 ohms in one of my Reos with cotton wick. Same wick and coil for 5 days straight (no cleaning or dry burn). Still looks brand spankin' new.

It's definitely the flavorings. And sweeteners are the worst for gunking up coils, as are some naturally extracted tobaccos (NET's). A perfectly clear, colorless, but sweetened mix can crud up really quickly sometimes. Or a plain, single varietal NET can be brutal on the coils, depending on strength, type, etc.

I have 100%VG juices that are extremely flavorful and deliver throat hit, and I have some high PG mixes (like 70%PG) that can put out a fair amount of vapor, but surprisingly not overly flavorful. It all depends on the recipe, ratio of flavors, and "cloud" output is also directly affected by the device or build that's being used.

I have lots of different PG/VG ratios in my juice collection. I don't necessarily purchase from "custom" vendors. I usually defer to the mixer's recommendation, which of course, varies from recipe to recipe.
 

Timactionfigures

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 23, 2014
153
158
Boringhamton, NY, USA
I don't understand why people keep blaming VG for gunking up coils, that is simply not the case. Wicking issues due to being too thick, yes, but VG doesn't gunk up coils, it's the flavorings that do. Same is the case with PG.

Just a personal observation...my coils/wick seem to last longer when using the thinner PG based juices. Whether that's because the thinner juices wick through all the built up gunk or they produce less gunk to begin with is the question. As I said...higher VG MAY lead to gunking up coils faster...not WILL DEFINITELY...

Or perhaps because I tend to get an extra flavor shot when I get higher VG juice...the extra flavor might be the cause...bah doesn't really matter to me since I rebuild and just pop in a fresh piece of cotton when it's time. :vapor:
 

luke213

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 2, 2014
182
98
Up
I've run 80/20 pg/vg and 100 vg so far and honestly I'm not sure I'm seeing much difference in flavor or vapor it seems to me it's more to do with the way it's made and components then how much of either is there. That said I'm new and haven't tested more than 6ish different juices from a couple vendors so far.

Sent from my XT875 using Tapatalk
 

Hypatia

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 6, 2013
893
2,234
Titletown, USA
I've run 80/20 pg/vg and 100 vg so far and honestly I'm not sure I'm seeing much difference in flavor or vapor it seems to me it's more to do with the way it's made and components then how much of either is there. That said I'm new and haven't tested more than 6ish different juices from a couple vendors so far.

Sent from my XT875 using Tapatalk

Very true. I find also that a nasty recipe is nasty, no matter the PG/VG ratio. And a 50/50 or a 70/30 or whatever of the same recipe isn't going to be terribly different in most cases, flavor wise. Vapor production is very different depending on what you're running it through, though.
 

luke213

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 2, 2014
182
98
Up
I will say I've seen some temp problems with my juices I live in a cold area(saw - 38f a month or so ago without wind chill) and I do have to make sure whatever device I'm using stays fairly warm to avoid dry hits I assume because the liquid is so thick it's not wicking or wicking too slowly.

Sent from my XT875 using Tapatalk
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread