Phix - Cartridge Inconsistancy

[joycebg]

This has been really good I've been off cigarettes and happy with this product until I needed a second starter pack, I lost the Phix, and the cartridge that came with it had a really harsh throat hit. I eventually changed the cartridge and there was no problem. I noticed the same thing in 1 of the 4 first pack of replacements I got, a really harsh throat hit and a feeling of something not right in my chest each time I inhaled. Any info please?

 

[djsvapour]

I checked out Phix and don't quite know what to say.

It's a pod system with high nicotine which no doubt kicks your throat very, very hard.
50mg is too much really and the 'salt' Nicotine will make it very overwhelming too.

Since I don't approve of these products or the whole pricing structure I can only suggest you tread very carefully. You know how we all hate those little printer cartridges where you pay like $30 for $0.30 of liquid and $0.50 of cartridge - well, this is the same. Better than smoking and possibly not a bad product but certainly not even on the planet of acceptable for price.

$23 for 6ml of 5.0% Nicotine. May as well buy Caviar or Liquid Gold... seriously...
Nicotine is cheap... these people are just making out you have to pay a premium for a product which costs not even 75c.
$23 for 70 cents of liquid. Not right. Immoral actually.

If some refills are bad, you need to get a refund and test out whether these products offer customer service of just want your money, because it's not looking good from here.

Clearly, some review sites are calling this product "one to look out for." The only thing they look out for is their commission. An e-cig that is this expensive to run deserves total condemnation by the community.

So - I did know what to say. Forgive me....

 

[joycebg]

Thanks for responding. They sell OTC a brand called Logic at every convenience store in the US. This worked temporarily as I quit cigarettes in January but needed something better. The Phix was available at a local Vaping store so that was next. I will start reading here and find what will be for the future.

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for responding. They sell OTC a brand called Logic at every convenience store in the US. This worked temporarily as I quit cigarettes in January but needed something better. The Phix was available at a local Vaping store so that was next. I will start reading here and find what will be for the future.

Logic in the UK is Japan tobacco. They used to hold the UK record (possibly the world record) for the worst-value refills. If they are the same (might not be) then you did well to escape them.
Unless you fill a tank with a Logic product, you could easily spend $3000 a year on refills.


A vaping store that sells Phix or Juul isn't interested so much in vaping, and certainly not the 'open world' of exciting products and fair running costs.

The history of the products is difficult to understand but when you do, it's easy to see what happened and will happen.
Early products (cartomizer e-cigs) exemplified by brands such as Whitecloud, V2, Greensmoke, Halo took very cheap products and maxed out the profit. They enabled people to unwittingly spend up to five times the necessary money to vape and the products were dreadful and ineffective.
Along came independent stores, juice companies, selling of refillable tanks and clever batteries which reduced the price massively and allowed/helped people to quit smoking with better nicotine delivery and cheaper running costs. That followed the logical progression to bigger everything, more power, more liquid.
Recently, the 'theory' of selling closed-system products has risen again but charging insane prices on the back of a USP mostly based on extraordinarily high nicotine content. The tobacco companies also tried this tactic. They failed to an extent. Juul and Phix don't plan to fail... it's quite hard to fail when you charge such unconscionable amounts of money for what is, after all, just another vape device.

..and just as with any other 'brand' product in the e-cig world (US/UK brands as opposed to Chinese manufacturers) there will loads of review sites convincing you...by the time you've read all the amazing reviews you will believe every word. You will spend $119 on a $29 e-cig. Only later will you realize you were tricked.

I spent $800 before I worked out I had bought less than $100 of hardware.

 

[BrotherBob]

This has been really good I've been off cigarettes and happy with this product until I needed a second starter pack, I lost the Phix, and the cartridge that came with it had a really harsh throat hit. I eventually changed the cartridge and there was no problem. I noticed the same thing in 1 of the 4 first pack of replacements I got, a really harsh throat hit and a feeling of something not right in my chest each time I inhaled. Any info please?

Welcome and glad you joined. Can look at your problem this way, most everyone has commented in the same vain, your not alone. It comes down to the fact that you have no real control of what you are purchasing.
Might like to read the section "Two Completely Different Products Are Referred To As "E-Cigs"":
http://gizmodo.com/5-facts-that-everyone-gets-wrong-about-vaping-1659938937
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Suggest you read following:
http://www.vaporauthority.com/pages/learn
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...tte-college-guides-tutorials-information.html
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http://guidetovaping.com/category/e-cig-beginner/
http://vapingcheap.com/vaping-101/
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