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<blockquote data-quote="kiba" data-source="post: 19774747" data-attributes="member: 103902">There was a vanilla almond custard, and a breakfast cereal custard from a juice maker that I can&#039;t mention on here, I tried for years to clone it, I finally found out they were using a few flavor west flavors that I never thought to try bc those are loaded with fructose corn syrup and sucralose, which I&#039;m not a big fan of putting onto my lungs... Anyway by the time I finally got it to like 98% spot on, they go out of business... so the way I choose to look at it kind of like I&#039;m saving some if my favorite recipes for posterity or w/e, I anonymously posted the recipe and whatnot bc I&#039;m freinds with a couple of the now jobless guys on fb...Idk this is something that kind of bothers me about juice makers... so many have shut down, it&#039;s kind of spiteful imo just letting the recipes fade into oblivion, while peeps fumble around in the dark trying to clone it... That right there shows you the caliber of character in some of these guys... In the end its all about money for them, if it was me I&#039;d just post them all anonymously, I mean why not if you have no use for them anymore? but I can count only 2 times that has actually happened, and it&#039;s going to keep happening, if you look around at all the juices that are available to you, 99% of those will be out of business within a couple of years, barely any of them have the research or money required for a pmta, not to mention I doubt many of them would pass anyway. I mean it&#039;s like... you made all of this money off of us, (if we&#039;re being honest with ourselves juice making is pretty much pure profit, 30mls of juice costs me less than a dollar to make, &amp; thats with expensive nicotine &amp; flavors that I&#039;m not buying cheaply in bulk like they are, from the few who I&#039;m freinds with I know it to be around 10mL = +/-25cents as an average) you&#039;re done now, no use for secrecy anymore, give something back for glob&#039;s sake, it costs you nothing in time or money but provides immeasurable happiness to the people who paid your bills for years and no longer have access to it... I mean people are still out there, years later trying to clone pluid or boba&#039;s bounty.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kiba, post: 19774747, member: 103902"] There was a vanilla almond custard, and a breakfast cereal custard from a juice maker that I can't mention on here, I tried for years to clone it, I finally found out they were using a few flavor west flavors that I never thought to try bc those are loaded with fructose corn syrup and sucralose, which I'm not a big fan of putting onto my lungs... Anyway by the time I finally got it to like 98% spot on, they go out of business... so the way I choose to look at it kind of like I'm saving some if my favorite recipes for posterity or w/e, I anonymously posted the recipe and whatnot bc I'm freinds with a couple of the now jobless guys on fb... Idk this is something that kind of bothers me about juice makers... so many have shut down, it's kind of spiteful imo just letting the recipes fade into oblivion, while peeps fumble around in the dark trying to clone it... That right there shows you the caliber of character in some of these guys... In the end its all about money for them, if it was me I'd just post them all anonymously, I mean why not if you have no use for them anymore? but I can count only 2 times that has actually happened, and it's going to keep happening, if you look around at all the juices that are available to you, 99% of those will be out of business within a couple of years, barely any of them have the research or money required for a pmta, not to mention I doubt many of them would pass anyway. I mean it's like... you made all of this money off of us, (if we're being honest with ourselves juice making is pretty much pure profit, 30mls of juice costs me less than a dollar to make, & thats with expensive nicotine & flavors that I'm not buying cheaply in bulk like they are, from the few who I'm freinds with I know it to be around 10mL = +/-25cents as an average) you're done now, no use for secrecy anymore, give something back for glob's sake, it costs you nothing in time or money but provides immeasurable happiness to the people who paid your bills for years and no longer have access to it... I mean people are still out there, years later trying to clone pluid or boba's bounty. [/QUOTE]

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