Pillbox38's: Totally Wicked E.Smoking Liquid..About to hit the UK

[pillbox38]

Apostle i am happy with the latest report...

At present i am looking into the Dihydro Cumarin...Its not a carcinogen, but as a lot of things are it is suspected..The methanol, was disturbing and it has gone..The report was fed back to china, they were asked/told sort it or i buy nomore.

They did and they were i genuinely believe disturbed by it..It was in the menthol flavouring, the only flavouring they bought out of house, the mint now is sorted.

I am totally satisfied my wicked fluids are as clean if not cleaner than any others.

 

[ApOsTle51]

well tbh Jason , with all the evidence laid to bear, questions asked and answered, lab reports and end user satisfaction you should be duely satisfied with the products you sell and from what i have read Totally wicked is the safest in the UK. ( franc pipe is tastiest too )

I just noticed also the 30ml bottle's your doing os some flavours and at £19.99 one of the most competitve also.

 

[pillbox38]

Apostle, these fluids have cost me a lot of up front investment to get them to this current level. I believe for what the user gets- the value per ML is the best around.

I think at £14.99 for 20ml and £19.99 for 30ml, its a good price, my intention is to sell in quantity and that way i can maintain a realistic price but more importantly a great quality.

I intend for totally wicked to be the Fluid of choice for all e smokers worldwide.

Big claim, we shall see

Your thought on the site were well received, thanks for that.. Jason

 

[Denni]

Congratulations on the site and on the initiative you have taken with the lab reports, which will benefit all us e-smokers!

And kudos for chasing up the methanol issue. Once manufacturers are aware that you are on the case, they won't take any shortcuts

I'll be ordering some liquid soon (have to wait until my bank account is replenished )

 

[Mihai]

Any chance to supply for more european countries than those listed?

 

[pillbox38]

Hi yes just choose any european country and the shipping is the same.

Just finishing the site off..

 

[margouillat]

Hello Pillbox38

Please, confirm shipping cost for UE
Actually it's 1,99£ for a bottle or more, isn't it?
Thanks

 

[dandamegs]

Didnt spot those 30ml bottles-thanks

Just placed an order

Combined postage dosn't seem to be happening

 

[Kit]

jay there some jumbled up wording in "how did totally wicked begin"
first paragraph "was not as good we wanted" ,allso when advertising the charger youve pasted the USB charger info instead,just thought i would let you know seeing as your tweaking it !
Kit

 

[Kate]

I can't help wondering which other brand eliquids contain methanol that doesn't get detected and pulled from the shelves. It's one of the risks we take with esmoking, we are at the mercy of commercial forces. I really hope your voluntary checks pay off for you Pillbox, safety concerns should be high on everyones list of priorities.

 

[jigtg]

@pillbox38: I do not know if you have "do not eat" and "keep away from children" warnings on your bottles but I suggest you put them there. It is unavoidable that someone will eventually take a zip of e-liquid and you are in for much more trouble if you do not have a disclaimer. You might want to look up if there are some symbols for it also. Red triangle maybe. Implicit warnings are not worth much.

 

[rustylug]

Hey ... Hey .... Hey .... Come on you lot .. Remember we all want a good safe free nic cart, and as far as i can see pillbox is the only one that has posted his lab results on the forum.

 

[TheSiege]

True, and honesty is always a good trait to see in someone who supplies chemicals for consumption! But, full disclosure of the liquids contents would not mittigate any civil lawsuit or even criminal changes filled against him if something did happen. Propper warning labels are as much for him and his companies protection, as they are for consumers.
Always best to play it safe, and with the limited outlay it would require, it seems to me to be a no-brainer.

 

[jigtg]

If you want to get it downright right, you would have to assume your customer knows nothing about e-cigs. PG allergy, symtoms of nic overdose, reasonable daily consumption, preventing bacterial grow in cartridges etc. etc. These things add extra value to you product and more importantly differentiate you from crappy e-liquid sellers. You so owe me freebies for telling you this...

 

[eWyze]

Hi All,

New e-cig user here, I'm actually waiting on my first DSE901 to come in from puresmoker. Thanks to everyone for offering up all your advice and opinions; it's very helpful!

Pillbox, I'm interested in the totally wicked, but noticed on your website you do not have a selection for US in the country drop-down when signing up for an account. Do you not ship to US from the site, only from eBay?

I'd much prefer to order directly from your site than ebay. I do have PayPal if there is an alternative method -- I noticed you asked someone to PM you earlier in this thread to set something up.

Either way, can't wait to get my eCig -- excited to quit smoking!

Thanks!

 

[TropicalBob]

I'd suggest taking a page from Big Pharmaceutical. Look at how they package drugs/pills. Look at the sheets of information provided. What? You throw those away? Fine, you were told you'd throw up if you took two pills at once! It's on the sheet.

There can be several packaging methods employed. A warning sheet, which should indeed assume a buyer knows nothing about the contents (a first responder to a child poisoning might know nothing either!). Then separate items are needed on the vial or bottle: label of primary ingredients, poison warning and emblem ala what Kate illustrated -- all in a childproof design.

Your Web site should duplicate the printed warning.

As for down the road .. look at the future of real cigarettes: Packs without identity or color. No puffing devils. No red Marlboros. Rest in peace, Joe Camel. Just plain packs full of warnings (and perhaps graphic photos). E-smoking will head that way sooner or later. It will do so to avoid "being attractive to young people." Wicked puffing devils look neat to 13 year olds.

Heck, if you really want to pioneer, take another cue from Big Tobacco. Tell people NOT to e-smoke. Tell them there are unknown consequences and that health agencies can't say this is a safe alternative to smoking cigarettes. Put up a Web site: The Anti-E Site, everything we don't know about what I'm trying to sell you.

Works for Big Tobacco. Lotta lawyers got paid good money to create those "get off cigarettes" sites. But Big Tobacco can now say in honesty, "We tried to warn them. They wouldn't listen." They hope a future jury will look at a lung cancer victim and say, "Butthead," instead of here's your $20-million.

 

[Kate]

Here is a link to the new labels TotallyWicked_Label.pdf

 

[pillbox38]

Bob>>>Some good ideas to work on, i have added the toxic symbol and warnings re toxic if inhaled, through contact with skin and by mouth. Also from my next order(the one currently being produced) Childproof caps are on the bottles.

Sell by dates and company name, address and where produced.. Already has warnings to keep out of reach and sight of children....Full ingredient list and MG content and user instructions so its getting their..


Totally Wicked E Liquid

 

[pillbox38]

Thanks Kate, thats brilliant..Much appreciated...

 

[Kate]

No problem, it's a good product, worth supporting.