Planning to buy some sweeteners/flavor catalysts, which ones to choose?

[proteckt3d]

Hello all new and old DIY's! I'm going to finally start after lurking the forum for a while. I started vaping at the beginning of the year and I vaped Dekang tobacco flavored e-liquids and I thought I can begin DIY'ing with tobacco flavors also. I am buying nic base from a web-site that has a 'specialties' group in the DIY section from where I'll get EM ( TPA ) because I saw it's a must, but they have others and I would be interested to try one or two from the following but I don't know what to take.

MTS Vape Wizard- TPA
HickorySmoke-TPA
Koolada- TPA
Sweetner - TPA
Worcestershire-TPA
Holiday Spice-TPA
Liquid amber- FA
Bitter-FA

I know taste is subjective, however I basically want something that will bring out the tobacco taste as much as possible and shade/hide the flower taste or nutty or caramel. Here are the items, but feel free to recommend something that you like when making tobacco's

 

[Rin13]

I heard brown sugar is good w/ tobacco/cigar flavorings. I just got brown sugar and it's steeping w/ the tobacco... so I couldn't tell you for sure. I use either sweeter by TPA or Cotton Candy. TPA

 

[subversive]

I do not have personal experience with this, but I have heard using 1% Bitter Wizard in tobacco mixes is a good idea. Vape Wizard is supposed to help round out flavors. I don't know about any of the other flavors above. If you have any interest in trying menthol, I would recommend grabbing some of that to experiment with.

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about tobacco DIY will come along.

 

[Cjax]

Bitter wizard and vape wizard are great for rounding out juices, just be careful, they can also kill one too. I use them diluted to 1/2 strength. couple drops can hush a lot of the sweeter/acidic notes.

 

[proteckt3d]

Thank you for your contribution, I will get them both, bitter and vape wizard. The bitter is from FA, would it also need diluted?
@subversive they have menthol also from TPA and it was already on my list I'm sure it's going to be good as I see many people that hated menthol cigarettes turned up to like vaping with a bit of menthol.

 

[flintlock62]

I haven't tried cotton candy. Is it mainly sweet, or can you detect other flavors as well? Is it strong?

I heard brown sugar is good w/ tobacco/cigar flavorings. I just got brown sugar and it's steeping w/ the tobacco... so I couldn't tell you for sure. I use either sweeter by TPA or Cotton Candy. TPA

 

[subversive]

A lot of people use ethyl maltol, which is the same as TPA Cotton Candy. It's a sweetener/flavor smoother. It is different from TPA's Cotton Candy ( Circus ), which is supposed to actually taste like cotton candy.

 

[Cjax]

Thank you for your contribution, I will get them both, bitter and vape wizard. The bitter is from FA, would it also need diluted?
@subversive they have menthol also from TPA and it was already on my list I'm sure it's going to be good as I see many people that hated menthol cigarettes turned up to like vaping with a bit of menthol.

The Bitter Wizard is acctually the one I would dilute. I made the mistake of getting a 30ml bottle of it, well I guess I have enough to last 5 lifetimes, oops! The MTS Vape wizard should be fine at full strength, just go slow.

 

[proteckt3d]

(....), just go slow.

I have a lot of reading to do, I'll use 1 drop per 5ml. Also I wanted to ask with what should I dilute the Bitter Wizard?

 

[Rin13]

I have both the circus cotton candy and the regular... the regular doesn't really have any detectable flavor, especially at the low amounts you typically use to sweeten. The circus cotton candy, however, does have a slight flavor. It's like the blue cotton candy you get from the fair... but still pretty mild.
I have used marshmallow, cotton candy and sweetener to sweeten my vapes, and it doesn't seem to affect the flavor much. But I like sweet/candy vapes... so I guess it just depends on your preference.

 

[Cjax]

I have a lot of reading to do, I'll use 1 drop per 5ml. Also I wanted to ask with what should I dilute the Bitter Wizard?

I just split mine with pg. I would assume you can use PGA or vg as well, though.