Possible Battery Problem, or Newbie Mistake

[N8Diggity]

Hi All, Nate here and I am new to the forum.

After starting with an eleaf istick for several months I wanted to move up.

Got a good black friday deal on Segelei 150 TC, TFV4 smok tank, 4 Samsung 30 Batteries. So this is a brand new system for me.

After vaping all day and loving the setup, I switched batteries. They were charging for half a day and showed full on the charger. Put them in and they showed 80% in my mod. Took a vape, jumped up to 86%. Took another vape jumped to 90%. Third hit back down to 80%. I was like WTF, I did hold the fire button down for a few seconds without dragging/pulling so I could see what the voltage was doing. The next drag was co pletely burnt tasting and the 2 or 3 after as well.

Did I torch my coil by pressing the fire button for those 2 seconds without dragging? Do you think I may have a battery issue?

Thanks for any help in advance.

 

[SimonC86]

The battery meter did jump around when I had the Sig 150w TC. But not as crazy like you explain. Maybe it's okay.

 

[Bunnykiller]

yup.... it needs airflow to keep things from going critical...

new batteries?

 

[LimJaheyyy]

Ive noticed with my Hgs2s in the ipv 3li doing that. If they dont fully charge the battery meter jumps around a little before figuring out what theyre really at

 

[N8Diggity]

Thanks for the help everyone, I feel better about the batteries I guess. Yes all four batteries I got were brand new for just this device.

 

[N8Diggity]

So the coil didn't taste as bad today after sitting overnight but still has a burnt flavor. Is there anything I can do to save this new coil?

 

[N8Diggity]

Wow, I am hating this Smok FLV4. Changed out the included 3 coil that tastes completely burnt after one tank for the quad coil that gets great reviews. Took my time to over prime it. First several vapes at 40w tasted great. After that I let it sit and turned it up to 60w. Now this coil is completely burnt. What the hell, total of 6 vapes and it is garbage. I have no idea what is going on here. The only difference I have see is that this set of batteries seemed to burn these coils right up. The other set of batteries vaped that first coil completely fine for hours, changed batteries and it burned up.

I may just be crazy, but something is not right here. Any one with any suggestions here. Now I have no good coil and not really ready to spend money on these coils to have the, burn right up.

 

[EJAB]

Those coils are mass produced, so it could be a quality control issue. Just a thought.

 

[sacullen]

Why'd you bump it up to 60 watts? What's the resistance of the coil?

 

[Douggro]

What's the resistance of the coil?

The Smok TF-Q4 quad-coils are .15ohm, 40w-140w, and the TF-T4 quad-Claptons come in both 0.2 and 0.46ohm versions and baseline at 60w. Wattage is most likely not the issue..

 

[N8Diggity]

Thanks for everyone that took a look at my post, I have an email to Smok, I will see what they say. Very unhappy with it.

 

[J-Strizz]

Thanks for everyone that took a look at my post, I have an email to Smok, I will see what they say. Very unhappy with it.

Which charger do you have? Just so you know the i4 and d4 from nite core the slots share sleds.

Slot 1 and 3 are paired and slot 2 and 4 are paired. So basically if you have a battery in 1 and another in 3 it will half the amperage of the charge.

A slower charge is ideal because it allows the cells to become more stuffed. Charging quickly shovels the power in there and will provide a false peak (eg: not a true 4.2v)

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Properly priming a new/unused head and eliquid quality have more to do with head life than power unless you're massively over powering them.
Then comes airflow, you have to move a great deal of air through subohm tanks to prevent burning liquid on the coil(s) and the wicking material in contact with the coil(s).
Trying to mouth to lung inhale will cause burning, you gotta rare back and rip on it to move enough air to keep things cool.

Dark or colored & especially sweet liquids tend to clog wicking material & gunk coils rapidly.

And, yes, even a few hits with too little airflow or using goopy gunky low quality juice can ruin or at least make a head taste funky.

I seriously doubt your problems have anything to do with your batteries.

 

[N8Diggity]

I think you are right. I do not believe the batteries are the problem either. After a second charge. Both batteries are accurately reading 100%. Threw my Velocity RDA on and they correctly move down one percent at a time while using. Both sets seem to be working fine. I am using the Wake and Vape Energizer charger.

So when I look at these horribly tasting coils they look fine. Wires nice and silver, no gunk to be seen. Just horrible burnt taste. I felt that I primed really well. The triple coil that came with it vaped almost an entire tank tasting great. Then scorched flavorless vapor. The quad like I said only tasted good for 4-5 vapes then scorched flavorless vapor.

I thought I was giving good airflow while using, perhaps I was not. Funny thing is I talked to a friend that uses the FLV4, when I told him of my problems he said what he noticed is that he had to suck long and slow or he would burn up coils. Sounds to me like these things are finicky, I just don't get it.

 

[sultanofswag]

he said what he noticed is that he had to suck long and slow or he would burn up coils.

Haven't used either of those coils, but my experience is exactly the opposite.

 

[N8Diggity]

Yea, I personally always pulled hard, and did that with the TFV4 as well. My buddy got me thinking the opposite, I don't know. I have two friends that rock the TFV4 without issues.

I wanted to eliminate a problem with my mod, threw one of my Melo 2 tanks on the Seg and it is vaping to perfection. So far the $20 Melo 2 tank is out performing the $50 TFV4 in every way for me.