Possible causes of burnt taste

[StrahmNoMore]

Hey everyone. Sorry to be making all my newbie threads problem issues. I just wanted to get your thoughts on what could be causing a burnt taste. My deep down belief in my case is that it's most likely from chain vaping, but need some input. I saw a different thread on here about maintenance and problem issues causing people to go back to the dreaded analogs and I don't want to get to that point! Anyway, so I have an EVOD2 and an Aerotank V2. They both take the same coils (1.8 dual Kanger coils) I normally mix either 50/50 or 40/60. I typically keep my batteries at 3.8. When I've tried them at 5.0 the burnt taste was BAD. But I've been noticing a burnt taste more often lately and I am wondering what could be causing it. I realize this is about as vague as telling a mechanic what kind of car you have then asking why it won't start, so a bit more info.
I do tend to chain vape lately since switching to 8mg's. I don't notice the burnt taste on the first hit usually, it's when I take a hit sway the vape down, then pull it right back up and go for another hit a few seconds later and repeat, then there's the burnt taste. My battery and tank are often "warm" to the touch. Also, when I am hitting it sometimes, I hold the button in until it flashes. I do this on both batteries. Another thing, is I have been known to vape my tanks almost dry, sometimes when changing coils. So I'm guessing any one of these things could have something to do with it, but I am looking for any advice on how to correct it. Could the wrong coils cause a burned taste? (Because I have been sold the wrong coils in the past) Or when coils go bad, is the burnt taste a symptom? Thank you all for your help and these forums!

 

[Mapultz]

Sounds like they're either old, or not wicking properly. Most coils do fine with 50/50, though. Are they stock coils? When was the last time you cleaned/dry burned them?

 

[Mapultz]

Hey everyone. Sorry to be making all my newbie threads problem issues.
That's what we're here for!

I just wanted to get your thoughts on what could be causing a burnt taste. My deep down belief in my case is that it's most likely from chain vaping, but need some input. I saw a different thread on here about maintenance and problem issues causing people to go back to the dreaded analogs and I don't want to get to that point!
Neither do we! Stick with it, you'll figure out what works for you!

Anyway, so I have an EVOD2 and an Aerotank V2. They both take the same coils (1.8 dual Kanger coils) I normally mix either 50/50 or 40/60. I typically keep my batteries at 3.8. When I've tried them at 5.0 the burnt taste was BAD.
5.0 is pretty high for stock coils, so I'm not surprised it tastes burned.


But I've been noticing a burnt taste more often lately and I am wondering what could be causing it. I realize this is about as vague as telling a mechanic what kind of car you have then asking why it won't start, so a bit more info.
I do tend to chain vape lately since switching to 8mg's. I don't notice the burnt taste on the first hit usually, it's when I take a hit sway the vape down, then pull it right back up and go for another hit a few seconds later and repeat, then there's the burnt taste.
This is what makes me think wicking problems. I tend to vape faster than my coils can handle sometimes. All I do is do a dry hit - pulling on the drip tip like I'm taking a drag, but I don't hit the button. This helps pull more liquid into the coil so I can then take another hit with power!


My battery and tank are often "warm" to the touch.
That's not abnormal, especially with heavy usage.


Also, when I am hitting it sometimes, I hold the button in until it flashes. I do this on both batteries.
This means that you're taking too long of a drag. A lot of battery have a cutoff - if you hold the button down for, say, 10 seconds, it shuts off automatically. This is usually a built in feature to protect you if the button is accidentally depressed in your pocket or similar.


Another thing, is I have been known to vape my tanks almost dry, sometimes when changing coils.
2 problems with vaping the tank dry - they can tend to leak when they get low. Or if you vape it actually dry, you could burn the coil. But if there is still a little liquid in there, and it's not leaking on your, you're good.


So I'm guessing any one of these things could have something to do with it, but I am looking for any advice on how to correct it. Could the wrong coils cause a burned taste? (Because I have been sold the wrong coils in the past) Or when coils go bad, is the burnt taste a symptom?
If the coils fit and work in the tank, sounds like you have the right coils. You do need to clean and dry burn your coils every so often - how often depends on how much/what kind of liquid you're running through there. Darker/sweeter liquids gunk up coils pretty quick.

 

[Warpigs]

When I start getting burnt hits, I clean or replace my coil. That seems to fix it.

 

[djsvapour]

5 Volts or 5 watts?

5 Volts will kill stock Kangers in less than a half a dozen hits.

 

[StrahmNoMore]

Okay so this is going to sound stupid, but how would I fix a problem with them not wicking properly and how do you clean coils? One thing of note, I put a new coil in the Aerotank last night and the first 3 hits tasted burned. The Aerotank seems to be where this happens 85% of the time. Also, I meant 5 volts I think but I havent used it up that high in a long time.

 

[Mapultz]

Okay so this is going to sound stupid, but how would I fix a problem with them not wicking properly and how do you clean coils? One thing of note, I put a new coil in the Aerotank last night and the first 3 hits tasted burned. The Aerotank seems to be where this happens 85% of the time. Also, I meant 5 volts I think but I havent used it up that high in a long time.

NOT STUPID!!!!

To clean coils, everyone has their method. Some soak in hot water. Some boil. Some use alcohol. I personally soak in hot water with a bit of denture cleaner (those tablets that fizz when you drop them in water), then rinse well and let dry. If you're using the stock coils with silica wicks, then you'll want to dry burn. When the coil is dry, screw it into the base of your tank, and put it onto your battery. Turn the voltage down really low, hit the power button for a few seconds, then let go. It'll burn some of the gunk off. Hit the power again for a few seconds, let go, repeat a few times. Some people will tell you to rinse it again when you're done just so you don't have any residual burnt taste. That's up to you.

Here's a video that will walk you through it with a Kanger coil, although it's single coil, not dual. Same concept, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAYk2aKytpg


Wicking...let's see. Have you ever opened up the coil like they do in the video? I'm not sure about the dual coils, as I don't have any, but with the single coils, there are two loose "flavor wicks" sitting on top of the coil. You can see them in the above video. They're just two small pieces of silica not wrapped in the wire. If those are present in your coil, try taking them out. That will leave more room for the juice to come in...that's the only thing I can think of, unless you want to get into rebuilding.

 

[Cavenerd]

I used to get the burnt taste all the time with clearomizer atomizer, sometimes with brand new coils. I would replace the coil, making sure to "prime" the new coil to reduce the wait before I could start taking hits. After filling the tank and putting everything back together, I would set it aside for 10-15 minutes to make sure it was completely wicked up.

While I was waiting I would take the old atomizer and:

1. Thoroughly flush it with hot water.
2. After the hot water flush let it soak in water for a few hours (I have a friend who soaks his atomizers in vodka... I, myself, am not sold on that idea)
3. At the end of the "soak" blow as much water (or vodka...) out of the atomizer as you can and then let it air dry for at least 24 hours

That seemed to work for me and I had some fairly good results. You can get much deeper into the cleaning process with a rebuild and rewrap if you want. It's not a very difficult process but it can be a bit fiddly until your are comfortable with the basic mechanics.

I'm more of an aspire guy but they are all "basically" the same. If you search YouTube for:

"Kanger Aerotank Coil Rebuild"

and/or also

"Rebuilding ProTank 2 Coil Heads With Cotton [Tutorial"]

you should find something to get you started with rebuilding basics.

Good luck. Keep on vapin'!

 

[StrahmNoMore]

Ok. So after first refilling the juice, let it sit with the coil for a few minutes before trying to vape on it right away? I will look at the coil videos later as well. I read somewhere in an instructional manual, some people recommend putting some juice on the new coil it's self before putting it in as well to lube it up so to speak.

 

[Mapultz]

Ok. So after first refilling the juice, let it sit with the coil for a few minutes before trying to vape on it right away? I will look at the coil videos later as well. I read somewhere in an instructional manual, some people recommend putting some juice on the new coil it's self before putting it in as well to lube it up so to speak.

Yep, letting it sit is good. Pre-saturating it can also help, although if it's an overall wicking problem, that will be a short-term fix.

 

[Cavenerd]

Ok. So after first refilling the juice, let it sit with the coil for a few minutes before trying to vape on it right away? I will look at the coil videos later as well. I read somewhere in an instructional manual, some people recommend putting some juice on the new coil it's self before putting it in as well to lube it up so to speak.

Dripping a little juice into the throat of your coil before you install it is priming. It cuts down on the time that your new coil needs to wick up the juice. I don't drip straight down the chimney of the atomizer. I hold it at an angle and just slip one or two small drops down the side to wet the wick from the inside. Too much priming and you'll flood it though.

Priming isn't necessary but I think it helps to speed up the wicking process.

 

[StrahmNoMore]

Thank you all for the info. Inhaling with no battery, then hitting power seems to be working! Also, I'm making a conscience effort to not try and suck it down like a cigarette. Guess I have to remember, this is a valuable therapeutic smoking cessation device, not a cigarette .... I'm gonna use and toss in the street.

 

[Mapultz]

I'm glad that's helping! Vape on!

 

[StrahmNoMore]

This problem is becoming more prevalent as of late, so I am trying this method. I will let you guys know how it works out.
http://youtu.be/nNGBpdLvUwk