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Jeremy Evans

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I will contribute to this as well, this is my 2 daily vapes
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For the record, I don't have a problem with X-Drifter using the term "Ohmage"... He wasn't trying to imply that that it was a correct term. I know for a fact that he knows the correct terminology. He was being funny and he used in a part of the forum where the people reading it know the correct terminology.

My problem is with the people who hang out in the new members forum and feed garbage to beginners, who in turn, perpetuate incorrect terminology because they simply don't know any better.

Yeah, ohmage is pretty cool, in an 80's surfer movie like way. But I can't take credit for using it, it was someone else.

I'd be more inclined to use something like omecitos :) Spanish slang for little ohms perhaps?

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Ok, smart guy I will play your game, as per Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Delivery - the act or manner of delivering something; also : something delivered
I never said an atomizer didn't deliver anything. Reread my post. I clearly stated that it delivers vapor.
"juice" clearly implies a fluid in liquid form. Vapor, on the other hand, is a fluid in gaseous form.

I don't anything in there defining what is being delivered, therefore juice Delivery device is a correct statement.
"Juice" is pretty clearly defined... Guess you need to be a "smart guy" to work that out...

You could drink your juice for your fix but instead you choose to vape it utilizing an Atomizer to deliver the juices for you in a vapor form. I will show you the deliveries to get it from your bottle to your lungs, follow along now.

The bottle delivers it to your device( whither a dripper or genny or clearo or whatever), which in turn delivers it to your choice of wick, which in turn delivers it up to the coil, which changes it from liquid to a vapor and delivers it to your mouth which delivers it to your lungs through your esophagus.
My apologies for omitting the bottle as a delivery device. I stand corrected. If you choose to drink it straight from the bottle, knock yourself out...

Just saying and by the way using ATTY and then griping about the terminology that someone else using isn't the CORRECT term completely invalidates your point
"Atty" has been an accepted and recognized synonym for atomizer for as long as I've been vaping. My use of it, in no way, invalidates any of my previous statements.

Case in point... The forum itself recognized the word "atty", underlines it and displays the word "atomizer" if you hover your mouse over it.
 
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^^ Jas, on our squeeze boxes, the bottle, when squozen, actually does deliver the juice (via a tube) to the atomizer :).

LOL... Agreed. I admit that omitting the bottle (and squonk straw) in my list of juice delivery devices was an error on my part. I still, however, contend that neither the atomizer, as a whole nor the coil by itself, are "juice delivery devices"... They deliver vapor... Oh, and pretty please don't start calling atomizers "Vapor Delivery Devices" either... ;)
 

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LOL... Agreed. I admit that omitting the bottle (and squonk straw) in my list of juice delivery devices was an error on my part. I still, however, contend that neither the atomizer, as a whole nor the coil by itself, are "juice delivery devices"... They deliver vapor... Oh, and pretty please don't start calling atomizers "Vapor Delivery Devices" either... ;)

Yep, I think of them as heaters :)
 

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In general it's rude to correct people but I've seen it done tactfully without use of the word idiot once or twice.

I think calling any ecig something including the words "delivery device" gives it overtones of illicit substances. The words vaporizer or vapor are probably fairly neutral.

Btw, very much enjoying this thread and your beautiful setups!
 

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I guess I've undertood juice delivery device (or juice delivery system) to refer to how our "toppers" are devices that the intent is to hold and deliver juice to the heating element (aka atomizer). Cartos hold and deliver juice through filler; clearos and genesis style RBAs with a tank and wick; disposable atomizers with a combination of mesh and silica wick; dripper RBAs with a well and wick, and so on. Hence juice delivery system always made sense to me. If there's a shorter and better understood way to refer to all of our atomizer devices I'd be happy to use it.

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There is... It's "atomizer". :D

I know, but atomizer has been used so long to refer to disposable atties like 510s and 901s. Ask someone what atomizer they use, they'll often say the use cartos, clearos, etc and not atties. I've also tried asking what topper someone uses, which also confuses lol. However, "what juice deliver system do you use" is usually understood. In the Natural Tobacco thread I frequent, we've shortened it to JDS, since what JDS a person uses is pretty important with extracted tobaccos and is a term used fairly often.

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I know, but atomizer has been used so long to refer to disposable atties like 510s and 901s. Ask someone what atomizer they use, they'll often say the use cartos, clearos, etc and not atties. I've also tried asking what topper someone uses, which also confuses lol. However, "what juice deliver system do you use" is usually understood. In the Natural Tobacco thread I frequent, we've shortened it to JDS, since what JDS a person uses is pretty important with extracted tobaccos and is a term used fairly often.

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Well back in the day (years seems like decades when it comes to changes in e cigs), the cartridge & atty was pretty much all there was. "What type of atty are you using" either referred to the connection type or the brand.

Anymore, the only people still using that type of atty are old school drippers who never felt the need or desire to get into rebuildables. As far as I know the cartridge component has completely disappeared.

In reality, I'd have never picked the word "atomizer" either... Prior to my exposure to e cigs, the only "atomizers" that I knew of were spray bottles, like a perfume bottle for example. They don't heat anything into a gaseous state, they simply break the liquid up into fine droplets. So, I'm not even sure how the term atomizer came into play in the 1st place... It was already in place long before I came around.

Fact is, anyone can call anything whatever they want. My personal preference, however, is to use the correct name for a thing when I know it has one and I know what it is.
 

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^ Hence the term "heaters" :)

Heaters loaded with micros. I like it.

I like the term "heater". I like it better than "atomizer" actually. It's provides a far better description of what the item does IMO.

Just think... I year from now, some ... hole, just like me, is going to go on a rant telling people that is not a "resistance induced fluid state transformer"... It's a "juice delivery device"!
 

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I like the term "heater". I like it better than "atomizer" actually. It's provides a far better description of what the item does IMO.

Just think... I year from now, some ... hole, just like me, is going to go on a rant telling people that is not a "resistance induced fluid state transformer"... It's a "juice delivery device"!

I like heater too, and would be happy to use if it becomes well-known. The first time I saw "topper" I thought, brilliant! It goes on top of the battery/mod/APV. Plus, topping it off is well-known to mean filling with juice. In practice though, using topper has gotten a "huh?" in response.

I'll try "heater" to see if it can be used without clarification in non-hardware sections. I'm sure there's a better, single-word term to describe these devices that holds and delivers juice to the heating element, but I haven't heard it yet.

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This semantics debate is getting interesting. I am by no means an expert in all of the myriad of configurations for AV stuff, but I am working towards that. Anyhow, I have understood an "atomizer" to be that which contains the coil, and thus, the main heating component of a JDS. I think "heater" is nice name for it, but I always think of Randy Jackson firing a fastball when I hear the word "heater". LOL
 

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This semantics debate is getting interesting. I am by no means an expert in all of the myriad of configurations for AV stuff, but I am working towards that. Anyhow, I have understood an "atomizer" to be that which contains the coil, and thus, the main heating component of a JDS. I think "heater" is nice name for it, but I always think of Randy Jackson firing a fastball when I hear the word "heater". LOL

And that, my dear Jessica, is why I'm not a fan of that term. Giving a single item two separate names leads people to believe that they are two separate things. In this case, "juice delivery device" is just another name for "atomizer". An atomizer IS NOT a part of a juice delivery device...
 

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First time I heard it referred to as a "heater" was watching Petar K videos.
"Topper"... Not a chance. I've had enough gay friends to know what what they mean when they use that term. My tube mods will NEVER have a "topper" screwed into them... That is my line and I'm not crossing it. LOL

Well, if we take all words the gay community has adapted we really start limiting ourselves lol. And to remove anything with possible sexual innuendo.. let's see, no more condom fill, carto condom, drip tip, bottom-fed, tube mod, box mod, manual, top mounted, male/female connection, pinky button, thumb-screw, wick, post, 5-second pull, blow out, suction.. and on and on. Now excuse me while I polish my tube mod lol.

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