Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

[Riverboat]

I only buy NET tobaccos which I drip. Im a heavy vapor and can not afford my 16 to 20ml a day habbit
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16 to 20ml a day, your kidding right? That's beyond heavy vaping...insane vaping is more like it
I go to a local B & M store and see the guys there sub ohm vaping blowing ridiculous clouds of vapor....Why,
I don't get it? I get a very satisfying amount of vapor with great TH using a 3.0 ohm coil set @ 12 watts using 24mg.... Here is the part I don't understand they all have to use low mg nicotine eliquid due to the tremendous vapor they produce... and all they are doing is inhaling excessive amounts of PG/VG just to prove they can blow the biggest clouds..... I vape to get my nic fix, why do I want to inhale more PG/VG rather then using high 24-30 mg and vaping less to ingest the same amount of nicotine.... I have tried the sub ohm route and because of excessive vapor production @ the nic levels I vape it makes you feel sick(over dosed nic).... To be honest yes vaping is healthier then smoking but do we really know the long term effect of PG/VG? So in my opinion I want to inhale the lest amounts of those substances as possible while getting my nicotine....... And as most of you know I also use unflavored eliquid.. Think about it, when you use a flavor in an atomizer how hard it is to remove that flavor.. Flavor additives are just another ingredient I want to avoid inhaling...... I hope this makes sense to all you cloud chasers

 

[Nach]

Well, we have been consuming PG and VG everyday of our lives. Go look around your medicine cabinet and pantry and start reading ingredient labels. You'd be surprised!

 

[Riverboat]

Well, we have been consuming PG and VG everyday of our lives. Go look around your medicine cabinet and pantry and start reading ingredient labels. You'd be surprised!

Nach I am sure we do but not in the amounts we have since we started vaping.....

 

[Nach]

Well here's the thing....

Propylene Glycol is a bactericide and virucide and is used medically as such. Hospitals pump it through their ventilation systems to sanitize the air. It is inert in humans.

Vegetable Glycerine is commonly made from palm oil and is also very safe for us humans.

I just don't see any more risk than the 4000 chemicals from tobacco, 40 of which are carcinogens upon combustion.


At the end of the day, I'd much rather vape gigantic clouds of vapor (which by the way isn't much different from going to a concert with fog machines) than worry about long term risks versus the terrible cigarettes I had smoked for 16 years.

 

[tnt56]

I'll be quiet about the cloud chasers.


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[Magic Dragon Puff]

I'll be quiet about the cloud chasers.

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Ok to be a cloud chaser with Super-T devices, it's all in the coil wrap anyways.
Now if you trade down to another PV thinking you'll do better, don't be coming back here crying your eyes out

 

[tnt56]

Trust me. If I ever did chase clouds. It won't be in this life time.


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[forcedfuel50]

We had some left over parts and I was able to put together enough parts for 12 ELA "packages" that will be put up later today.

Included in these packages will be:

-Precise ELA
-Slant Cap and Flat Cap(your choice of regular, flower or mag wheel slots on the Flat Cap)
-Regular and Kick Extension Tube
-Brass and Stainless Accents
-Locking Stainless Button and Non-Locking Brass Button
-ELA Strata
-Brass contacts (sorry, we are out of plated contacts at this time)

 

[belmont229]

Ahhhh I don't get paid till Thursday! I just spent my ELA savings to fix my fridge! Nooooo!

 

[jayD]

Fridges break?

 

[Cucco]

16 to 20ml a day, your kidding right? That's beyond heavy vaping...insane vaping is more like it
I go to a local B & M store and see the guys there sub ohm vaping blowing ridiculous clouds of vapor....Why,
I don't get it? I get a very satisfying amount of vapor with great TH using a 3.0 ohm coil set @ 12 watts using 24mg.... Here is the part I don't understand they all have to use low mg nicotine eliquid due to the tremendous vapor they produce... and all they are doing is inhaling excessive amounts of PG/VG just to prove they can blow the biggest clouds..... I vape to get my nic fix, why do I want to inhale more PG/VG rather then using high 24-30 mg and vaping less to ingest the same amount of nicotine.... I have tried the sub ohm route and because of excessive vapor production @ the nic levels I vape it makes you feel sick(over dosed nic).... To be honest yes vaping is healthier then smoking but do we really know the long term effect of PG/VG? So in my opinion I want to inhale the lest amounts of those substances as possible while getting my nicotine....... And as most of you know I also use unflavored eliquid.. Think about it, when you use a flavor in an atomizer how hard it is to remove that flavor.. Flavor additives are just another ingredient I want to avoid inhaling...... I hope this makes sense to all you cloud chasers

In all honesty, I did not know that lower nic resulted in bigger clouds. Hmm.. I started at 36mg. I am now at 6mg. I lowered my nic along the way, in an effort to lesson my nic addiction. It worked. Along the way, I did not vape more. However, with this last drop in nic level, I am vaping more. I believe, it is due to two reasons: 1) I have been home sick, and unable to do much. 2) With this last drop, I have noticed a big difference in taste. My juice tastes better than it ever has. Not sure, if my taste buds have improved greatly, or if the juice just tastes that much better with so little nic. Don't know.

My .5ish/.6ish builds are for the flavor I like, not the clouds. I am not a cloud chaser. I do, however, require a good deal of vape to satisfy the 'feeling'.

My next step, will be to try 'no flavor'.

 

[Cucco]

Is so easy, just start with one flavour and lets say you are wanting to make a 30ml bottle filll it and then add 3ml of whatever flavour. SHake taste, adjust if needed, and use. They do intensify as days go by. I started with peppermint. I only buy NET tobaccos which I drip. Im a heavy vapor and can not afford my 16 to 20ml a day habbit For the average vaper, its easier to just buy pre-mixed.

Now a 30ml bottle of NET lasts over a month because I just drip.

What does it cost per ml to make yours? I pay .30 per ml for my pre-made.

 

[belmont229]

apparently mine does. Pump went out = $210

 

[forcedfuel50]

ELA packages are up on the site. This is absolutely the last ELA's for quite some time so don't miss out!

 

[tnt56]

I tried to order but still says out of stock.

 

[snork]

I tried to order but still says out of stock.

It's for an ELA package with all the accoutrements, including an ELA Strata!

 

[tnt56]

Never mind. I found em. But alas like a lot of others, I can't spring for that much. If only I didn't need meds, and food,etc, etc.
If only I'd been born rich, or at least good looking.
(wonders how much my sweetie really does love me).

 

[Cucco]

David: Will you be making any more extended tubes?

 

[forcedfuel50]

David: Will you be making any more extended tubes?

Yes, actually funny you ask, machining some as we speak!

 

[CenTexVpr]

Cucco

I have been DIYing for about 6 mos. One of my more complex flavors calculates out to about $2.70 per 30 ml. Nic base is the most expensive ingredient in the mix. I am still at 12 mg per ml. So I am making it for 9 cents per ml. @ 6 mg per ml it will cost you even less.
I am quite enjoying flavorless(other than what the nic./pg/vg bring to the mix). I will have to play around with adding less flavor to what I use in the Strata as the flavor is over the top in that. So what avidfan said above, start with 1 flavor mixes & see how you like flavorless. Check out the DIY section of the e-liquid thread. Hoosier & dannyv45 have great beginning DIY blogs that may answer any questions you may have. If you have any questions about supplies or vendors or methodology just ask or pm I will gladly give you my