My only experience with Ry4 was not a good one. [emoji53] I ordered my first Ry4 from a vendor that I've gotten numerous other things I liked from. I've read stories from other forum members about vaping juice so horrendous that they retched, but never expected that might happen to me. That Ry4 tasted like a combination of what dog poop mixed with an old desk drawer might taste like, and I honestly DID retch. Out loud. *snickers* I can laugh about it now, at least. [emoji5]
Needless to say, that was the end of my Ry4 search. Until I found this thread, and based on the description of Dirty Dutchman, decided to give Ry4 another chance. I'm SO very glad I did! But will it be enough of a tobacco taste to suit a tobacco lover? That's hard to answer since I was a menthol smoker, and it pained me when I had to bum a non-menthol. [emoji28]
But it's a damned fine vape regardless, so maybe approach it from that standpoint instead of thinking about it as just another Ry4, which it most definitely is not. ITC restored my interest in the Rys, though, and put to rest a pretty nasty vaping memory. lol [emoji1] Silver is on it's way (thank you from the bottom of my heart, you know who you are [emoji8]), and I'll be purchasing Gold along with a 120ml Dirty Dutchman and Spoonlicker v2 with my next order.
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Edit: Just thought of something that may or may not be helpful...a friend of mine who smokes Marlboro Lights says DD reminds her of a rich, caramel-flavored pipe tobacco with a pinch of vanilla. [emoji57]