FDA President Trump just saved vaping

[Akrotiri]

Missed in all the hoopla of the inauguration is the fact the FDA's deeming regulations just got squashed. Among some of the new bills Trump signed to law is a seperate directive attached to the Obamacare law stopping "all federal agencies from implementing new regulations that have yet to fully take effect". This was actually done on camera. While it is not specific to vaping the FDA is obviously a federal agency and the deeming regulations have not been fully implemented as they were supposed to be coded into law in phases and staggered structure.

Trump announces regulatory freeze in first executive orders

 

[tj99959]

Sorry but that's not the case, 8/8 happened months ago, and still stands.

 

[Akrotiri]

Sorry but that's not the case, 8/8 happened months ago, and still stands.

Sorry but your wrong. Even a cursory search on these forums or thru google and you would know that the deeming regulations don't fully take effect until August 2018.

 

[tj99959]

Standing by what I said. However there are changes to the regulation that are under review, and they may well be effected by the freeze.
The deeming regulation itself is already in effect

 

[Akrotiri]

Standing by what I said. However there are changes to the regulation that are under review, and they may well be effected by the freeze.
The deeming regulation itself is already in effect

And so is Obamacare technically. But legislatively both are not anymore. They were frozen last night.. on camera. Such is the power of the presidency along with a congressional majority.

 

[ej1024]

The FDA regulations are already here... 2018 is just a deadline!


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[Akrotiri]

And so is Obamacare technically. But legislatively both are not anymore. They were frozen last night.. on camera. Such is the power of the presidency along with a congressional majority.

ok so what you say is law but what the president signs isn't?

 

[Boodaddy]

 

[Akrotiri]

The FDA regulations are already here... 2018 is just a deadline!


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Exactly. Is there a deadline to comply with say, not robbing a bank? Is there a deadline with complying not using lead and asbestos in building materials? Those are examples of laws. The deeming regulations are not codified into law yet and as of last night they are frozen and very likely to be scrapped altogether.

 

[tj99959]

What he signed last night effected regulations that are pending, there are a bazillion regulations that are already the 'law of the land' that are not effected in any way. Deeming regulations are of the ones that are already in effect, so not frozen by that executive order.

 

[Akrotiri]

What he signed last night effected regulations that are pending, there are a bazillion regulations that are already the 'law of the land' that are not effected in any way.

The deeming regulations by definition are pending

the definition of deeming
deeming means to "hold an opinion" not bearer of a fact,i.e law of the land. That is why the word deeming is there. If it were law already it would just be a regulation not a deeming one.

 

[ej1024]

Exactly. Is there a deadline to comply with say, not robbing a bank? Is there a deadline with complying not using lead and asbestos in building materials? Those are examples of laws. The deeming regulations are not codified into law yet and as of last night they are frozen and very likely to be scrapped altogether.

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[tj99959]

The deeming regulations by definition are pending

This is where you are wrong, Deeming regulations went into effect on 8/8/2016.

 

[Akrotiri]

This is where you are wrong, Deeming regulations went into effect on 8/8/2016.

That's when it was commenced the process was supposed to conclude in 2018, it has now been invalidated(frozen) before it became law in 2018

 

[tj99959]

Think I'm talking to a brick!

It became "law" on 8/8/2016 ! ! ! !

 

[Boodaddy]

August 8, 2016 - What Does it Mean for Vaping? - American Vaping Association

 

[Zutankhamun]

Lol. Don't worry vapers.
I think we may have a tad more to be worried/overjoyed about.

I'm sure that vaping regulations don't have much to do with 'making America great again'

 

[Akrotiri]

Think I'm talking to a brick!

It became "law" on 8/8/2016 ! ! ! !

it simply didn't it would have august 2018.

 

[Akrotiri]

it simply didn't it would have august 2018.

Oh wait your right because you resorted to childish name calling.

 

[Akrotiri]

August 8, 2016 - What Does it Mean for Vaping? - American Vaping Association

that's just sensationalism to motivate us to lobby hard before the deeming regs became actual law in 2018