Problems with Eleaf Pico??

[sofarsogood]

A pico is the mod I primarily use because it has TC and is small. I've had two problems. I damaged the USB port on one of them and I'll call that my fault. The second problem has been falling out of TC mode to watts mode. I haven't ruled out a problem on my side with the atomizer or build. An atomizer with the same build and settings was a problem on the pico but not several other devices but now with a new build on a different atomizer no problems for some days. The Pico is my favorite form factor.

 

[sawlight]

A pico is the mod I primarily use because it has TC and is small. I've had two problems. I damaged the USB port on one of them and I'll call that my fault. The second problem has been falling out of TC mode to watts mode. I haven't ruled out a problem on my side with the atomizer or build. An atomizer with the same build and settings was a problem on the pico but not several other devices but now with a new build on a different atomizer no problems for some days. The Pico is my favorite form factor.

Try taking the atty off, hit the fire button three times, screw the atty back on, hit the fire button and it should ask "new atty up, same down". Hit the up button, this should clear out a locked resistance that's stuck in the memory.

 

[Ed_C]

Try taking the atty off, hit the fire button three times, screw the atty back on, hit the fire button and it should ask "new atty up, same down". Hit the up button, this should clear out a locked resistance that's stuck in the memory.

I've done this before when it seemed like the TC wasn't working right and it may not even change the resistance, but then it starts working better. It's odd.

 

[sawlight]

I've done this before when it seemed like the TC wasn't working right and it may not even change the resistance, but then it starts working better. It's odd.

Indeed! Ghetto but effective!

 

[englishmick]

That was not in the manual l got, l have a wall charger that comes in all new Aspire Pico mods, and it says only use manufacturer charger. I am not going to bicker with you this is the charger it came with and l am not going to muck around with other chargers.

It sounds like they are warning you not to use a different wall charger, what folks call a wall wart. It's just a plug with a USB socket on the back. That's a valid warning because those wall warts can output different power levels. If you use one with the wrong output power level it can cause problems. I believe the problem comes if you use one that puts out too little power, someone correct me if I got it the wrong way round.

That's not the same as taking your battery out of the mod and putting it in an external battery charger though. Those are fine. The manufacturer warning only relates to wall warts.

 

[sawlight]

My Pico didn't come with a wall wart, just a USB cable.
Honestly can't say if you are right or not on the wall wart, I just don't know.
The big problem a few years ago was people using too powerful of a charger on the Ego batteries, before things got standardized. I think? the Ego chargers were 4.2v and people were pumping 5v in them and they were blowing up.
From what I've gathered from Mooch is the internal circuitry will step down the higher amperage input and just use what it needs. For to low of an output, I don't know what happens.

 

[sofarsogood]

I've done this before when it seemed like the TC wasn't working right and it may not even change the resistance, but then it starts working better. It's odd.

Thanks for the tip. The problem can go away for days and then be persistant for a while then go away again. I would have no worries about it except I'm stockpiling and need to make decisions about which devices. My plan has been 5 Picos and 5 VTwos for 10 years with the expectation that a mod will last 2 years of continuous service and In case I'm wrong I've got a redundant supply and if they both work perfectly may be I'm good for longer. My plan for mods,, atomizers and nic costs only $650 unless I decide I'm wrong about something while products are still available.

As far as the original poster's issue it's tempting to expect the problem will be at his end because we aren't hearing about picos going dead, especially twice to the same user. (I recently got a Mega. It's not what I would want to carry all of the time but I would prefer it in some situations so I'm glad to have it. It's the most comfortable to handle since my iStick 50.)

 

[ImThatGuy]

So...to sum it up. There is no Aspire Pico, but there is Eleaf Pico.

 

[KenD]

Well l am not fooling around, l charge my Pico with the USB that came with it. I am sticking with that so that's my opinion so whatever, l don't fool around with chargers that are not compatible with my mod

Better read up on batteries and chargers. Chargers such as the xtar vc4 are designed for li-ion batteries. They charge batteries, the mod has nothing to do with it. You do what you want to do, but don't go around giving erroneous and potentially dangerous information to others.

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[KenD]

It sounds like they are warning you not to use a different wall charger, what folks call a wall wart. It's just a plug with a USB socket on the back. That's a valid warning because those wall warts can output different power levels. If you use one with the wrong output power level it can cause problems. I believe the problem comes if you use one that puts out too little power, someone correct me if I got it the wrong way round.

That's not the same as taking your battery out of the mod and putting it in an external battery charger though. Those are fine. The manufacturer warning only relates to wall warts.

Kinda. Current is pulled (by the charger, which is built into the mod), not pushed by the wall wart. If the wall wart is rated for less than what the mod draws it might heat up and fail. It's always better to use a wall wart with a higher current rating (the output volt needs to be correct though).

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[MMcQ]

Back to the OP's original post. The only problem I've had with the pico had actually involved a protank 2 as well. Recently decided to switch it up so I dug out my old PT2 and build a quick 1.5 id 1.13 ohm coil out of 28G kanthal. Everything read great until I attempted to fire it. Instantly went from 1.13 to 0.00 ohm and wouldn't change back without loosening and tightening the tank. Figured out the depth of the PT2 positive pin (using latest airflow control base with the five holes and screw in it that limits the movement to only open and close, no spinning around) was too long and must've been mushing the PICO's 510 connection down too much. Threw on the ego to 510 adapter and a beauty ring to keep the Protank from screwing in too far and problem has resolved itself. Now wondering if having this happen could have caused the OP's pico to short itself and possibly be the culprit here.

 

[LuckyLulu]

Back to the OP's original post. The only problem I've had with the pico had actually involved a protank 2 as well. Recently decided to switch it up so I dug out my old PT2 and build a quick 1.5 id 1.13 ohm coil out of 28G kanthal. Everything read great until I attempted to fire it. Instantly went from 1.13 to 0.00 ohm and wouldn't change back without loosening and tightening the tank. Figured out the depth of the PT2 positive pin (using latest airflow control base with the five holes and screw in it that limits the movement to only open and close, no spinning around) was too long and must've been mushing the PICO's 510 connection down too much. Threw on the ego to 510 adapter and a beauty ring to keep the Protank from screwing in too far and problem has resolved itself. Now wondering if having this happen could have caused the OP's pico to short itself and possibly be the culprit here.

Good point, I used the protank II on both pico's so that may be the common factor. I may try the old dct carto tank with the replacement that I'm getting.

 

[Cumulo Vapus]

Ive got two picos….the first when they initially came out….works flawlessly but i charge batteries externally…haven't even updated the firmware….too scared. The wattage jumps .1 when i skew on an atty but doesn't bother me.

The second one was the newer all-black one…the wattage adjustment buttons on it are softer….have to press them a certain way or nothing happens….i thought it was dead first time i used it but it works well apart from that

 

[Ben85]

Dear lord, this thread has some ridiculous posts in it.

For those who are new to this and are confused, Aspire do not make the Pico, and external chargers are the way to go - as it has been expressed by the experienced in this thread.

 

[sawlight]

Dear lord, this thread has some ridiculous posts in it.

For those who are new to this and are confused, Aspire do not make the Pico, and external chargers are the way to go - as it has been expressed by the experienced in this thread.

But are you sure? I mean, he did read it in the Aspire Pico manual?
And he thought I was insulting his grammar

 

[Ben85]

If Aspire release some bad ... mod tomorrow called the Pico, we are going to feel stoooopid!

 

[sawlight]

If Aspire release some bad ... mod tomorrow called the Pico, we are going to feel stoooopid!

Well, there is this, IJOY CIGPET ANT KIT

 

[GeorgeS]

If you read the eLeaf statement it clearly indicates that an external charger might be faster. Period.

My "quality Nitecore D4 external charger" charges at a whooping rate of 750ma.

My USB current meter clocks the onboard Pico charge circuit as drawing 950ma.

Needless to say, the battery in my Pico has NEVER been removed as it is ALWAYS charged via USB.

Case closed.

 

[Ed_C]

If you read the eLeaf statement it clearly indicates that an external charger might be faster. Period.

My "quality Nitecore D4 external charger" charges at a whooping rate of 750ma.

My USB current meter clocks the onboard Pico charge circuit as drawing 950ma.

Needless to say, the battery in my Pico has NEVER been removed as it is ALWAYS charged via USB.

Case closed.

I do think that since the Pico is a single battery mod it's less of an issue, but I have read of more than one USB that has broken on the Pico.

The main issue was that the poster in question was saying that it was bad to use an external charger.

 

[sawlight]

Where's @Mooch at tonight? @Baditude even?
Yes, the Pico has a decent charging circuit, but it's still not as good, or as safe, as an external battery charger.