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Pros and cons of a Mechanical mod????
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Im not the most knowledgable about mechs by a long shot, by here goes:
Pros:
- Mech mods do not contain wires or circuitry or electronics, so the chances for the unit failing is substantially reduced.
- Mechs are sturdy and durable
- Most importantly, mechs put out "unregulated power". Because it has no circuitry board, the power a mech puts out is straight from the battery. Usually, regulated devices like a VAMO will count a too low resistance coil as a short (anything below 1.3 ohm) and will not fire. Mechs will. This opens up the possibility of using extremely low resistance coil, say 0.8 ohm. Thats 17 watts on a 3.7 volt battery right off the bat.
- Mechs also put out more constant stream of power, thus the power output fluctuates very little. Therefore, the temperature of your coil stays relatively constant throughout a hit.
Cons:
- Mechs have a learning curve, especially about battery safety and the likes.
- They are generally expensive as hell.
Pros:
- Mech mods do not contain wires or circuitry or electronics, so the chances for the unit failing is substantially reduced.
- Mechs are sturdy and durable
- Most importantly, mechs put out "unregulated power". Because it has no circuitry board, the power a mech puts out is straight from the battery. Usually, regulated devices like a VAMO will count a too low resistance coil as a short (anything below 1.3 ohm) and will not fire. Mechs will. This opens up the possibility of using extremely low resistance coil, say 0.8 ohm. Thats 17 watts on a 3.7 volt battery right off the bat.
- Mechs also put out more constant stream of power, thus the power output fluctuates very little. Therefore, the temperature of your coil stays relatively constant throughout a hit.
Cons:
- Mechs have a learning curve, especially about battery safety and the likes.
- They are generally expensive as hell.
Fully mech mods have no wires or circuit boards to fail. It is strictly a battery and a contact switch that makes the connection and produces the juice necessary to fire the atty / carto. I am confident I could run over my REO grand with my car and it would still work flawlessly. To me, the biggest pro is reliability. They just work. Now as the battery drains it will produce a lesser vape. One needs to learn to know when to change out the battery.
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Haha yeah i read it was somewhere around $45? Even in the CoOp. Im not ready to drop that kind of cash yet, close to breaking the bank here.
By the way, I ran my AGA T+ at 13 watts and it burnt the hell out of my throat even with a near vertical tilt. If youre hitting it at 17, hats off to you my friend
you gotta teach me how to roll better wicks.
By the way, I ran my AGA T+ at 13 watts and it burnt the hell out of my throat even with a near vertical tilt. If youre hitting it at 17, hats off to you my friend
you gotta teach me how to roll better wicks.
My Mech Mod was my very first PV.
Advantages:
No electronics and all mechanical meaning can usually be repaired easily and cheaply.
Batteries are separate from the Tube and can be long life- up to 3000 mah.
Replacement batts are inexpensive.
Some MMs can be "broken down" into a smaller size and used in stealth mode.
Although not recommended one can stack batts for a higher voltage.
"Some" MMs can have a kick installed to make it VV.
A consistent 3.7 volt stream of power.
Can use very LR delivery systems.
Extremely sturdy and durable.
Some have a mechanical spring button/ parts that can easily be cleaned if being used in a dusty work area- ie: construction site
Disadvantages
Large and bulky.
Must be occasionally disassembled and cleaned as the mech parts can become gummed up and not work smoothly. Also threads need special care. Tube also needs to be polished on occasion.
Unless you can install a kick they are a device with limits.
As for cost if you look at the long term picture they are relatively cheap as a well built MM will outlast most other PVs. My MM looks like new and vapes as great as the first day I fired it up. I spent over 200 solid hrs researching and came to the conclusion that a MM was the best bang for the buck- have owned my Mech Mod for 1 1/2 yrs and except for replacing a firing pin it has been a workhorse.
Advantages:
No electronics and all mechanical meaning can usually be repaired easily and cheaply.
Batteries are separate from the Tube and can be long life- up to 3000 mah.
Replacement batts are inexpensive.
Some MMs can be "broken down" into a smaller size and used in stealth mode.
Although not recommended one can stack batts for a higher voltage.
"Some" MMs can have a kick installed to make it VV.
A consistent 3.7 volt stream of power.
Can use very LR delivery systems.
Extremely sturdy and durable.
Some have a mechanical spring button/ parts that can easily be cleaned if being used in a dusty work area- ie: construction site
Disadvantages
Large and bulky.
Must be occasionally disassembled and cleaned as the mech parts can become gummed up and not work smoothly. Also threads need special care. Tube also needs to be polished on occasion.
Unless you can install a kick they are a device with limits.
As for cost if you look at the long term picture they are relatively cheap as a well built MM will outlast most other PVs. My MM looks like new and vapes as great as the first day I fired it up. I spent over 200 solid hrs researching and came to the conclusion that a MM was the best bang for the buck- have owned my Mech Mod for 1 1/2 yrs and except for replacing a firing pin it has been a workhorse.
I just my first mech mod, the Electric Angel, last week. I am still learning how to use my AGA-T, so at the moment I am using a catrotank, until I get the RBA just right. So far I haven't really used the mech to its full potential, I did get a kick for it. For the most part I still pick up my provari more often, but I think once I get used the mech, I will use it more.
Well I wanted to know what my options on my next E Cig could be. I use a GG that a friend had and loved it but just didn't know what upside of mechanical mod. Thanks for the replies and gonna look into a new toy for my collection.
You're buying the wrong ones.
Roller, Dingo & N-Zonic, off the top of my head are smaller than a Provari... and they're not the only ones.
I have noticed that photos in the "Pictures of your setup" thread for some reason make them all look huge.
I'd say the real disadvantages are:
Voltage drop as battery drains
no "Change battery" indicator
That's about it...
Considering a Kick would introduce an electronic point of failure... plus Amperage limits...
I'd say a Kick adds limits that a Mech doesn't have inherently.
Not saying there isn't a use case for a Kick... like when you want to run a vivi or other simple juice delivery system... But Machanicals should really be used with Low Res RBAs
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I use a REO mini 2.0. Small bottom feeder. Juice & battery lasts me all day. It's about the size of half a cigarette pack. Indestructible.
Check it out at reosmods.com
I really do feel if you're gonna put a kick in your mech mod, you might as well just get a VV... its cheaper with a longer battery life.
I primarily use AGA-Ts with the Vamo & Provari, hybrid SS/Cotton wicks and 28g kanthal coils 8/9 wraps at 1.4 - 1.6 ohm. I've been really interested in the Natural.
What ohms am I targetting for a mechanical coils here? 0.7-0.9?
What ohms am I targetting for a mechanical coils here? 0.7-0.9?
Nope considering what was available in Sept 2011
My MM can be broken down to 2 1/2" with a 1300 mah batt...or @ 4 1/4" with a 3000 mah batt
Not if you buy a quality battery as reco'd and tested by the guyz @ the FL Forum.
Using a 3000 mah battery do ya think that might be enuff to last the day? When I was using mine I had a pretty good idea of when the batt was ready to be changed.
With all the diff devices out there right now I really wouldn't buy one. I bought solely for long life, durability and cheap easy repair. I've since moved on to other PVs...I do have a number of converts that are in construction and while at work use an MM because they're durable and can take the dirt, grime and drops/ knocks.
With the drop in the price of VV devices I wouldn't bother with a kick. Just buy one of the latest VV devices available. I was merely giving options as to what could be used with an MM "if" someone wanted VV with an MM.
The reasons I've found vapers, over the years, wanting an MM are:
long batt life- with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
durable
easy to repair
separate batts- again with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
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The Kick by Evolve is a simple way to enjoy variable voltage using an existing mod. ...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-apv-reviews/284473-kick-evolv.html
Last I saw they were about $50.00
Just about everything I own is a mechanical, the exception is the B.A.M. which still is unregulated. I love the fact I can put a 1.0 coil in a genny and have an awesome vape (I don't do sub 1)many of your vv/vw devices can not handle that, even the provari will give error messages with a coil where I like it.
As to the knowing when to change batteries, you will notice a drop in your vape, when it gets too low and you are not getting what you want, it is time to change.
I personally don't care for a kick with a genny as I like to push between 12 to 15 watts (depending on how fresh the battery is) and a kick limits you to 10 watts, that being said many people love the fact the kick is set and forget, doesn't matter what your ohms are you are still at the same watts, and it regulates the batter and will stop working once the battery is so low, but still within the safe limits for discharge.
As to the knowing when to change batteries, you will notice a drop in your vape, when it gets too low and you are not getting what you want, it is time to change.
I personally don't care for a kick with a genny as I like to push between 12 to 15 watts (depending on how fresh the battery is) and a kick limits you to 10 watts, that being said many people love the fact the kick is set and forget, doesn't matter what your ohms are you are still at the same watts, and it regulates the batter and will stop working once the battery is so low, but still within the safe limits for discharge.
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