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Protect Your Rights From The FDA Onslaught

Discussion in 'FDA Regulations' started by Celt1, Mar 21, 2018.

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  1. Celt1

    Celt1 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2018
    Make no mistake, the FDA Commissioner, Scott Gottlieb, is gunning for the Vaping Community. His remarks make it clear that the onerous proposals they are trying to get through the comment period are just an initial step in their long term plan. He made it clear that they intend to "over-weigh" the alleged risk of youth starting vaping and moving to smoking. He stated that if 10 adults quit smoking through vaping, that will be over-weighed if 1 young person starts smoking through vaping. In other words, they have accepted as fact that vaping is an evil gateway to smoking, and no matter how many adults benefit from vaping by quitting smoking, it is not enough.

    1. The stage that things are at now is a notice for a period of public comment prior to regulations being implemented. Now is exactly the time to flood these bureaucrats and politicians with comments to fight their adoption.

    2. Scott Gottlieb, FDA Commissioner who has long said he wants to tear down the wall of FDA regulations he believes is holding back innovation, is in fact doing just the opposite in the case of vaping devices and liquids. He is trying to build an enormous wall of unwarranted regulatory hurdles and outright bans, driving out small businesses and innovations, costing jobs, and preventing people who would otherwise reduce their health risk from smoking through vaping.

    3. Much of this effort is being done through bureaucratic gaming of language. Vaping is referred to as "E-Cigarettes" and as a "tobacco product". This should be confronted where and whenever these semantics are employed. Vaping is far more than "E-Cigarettes", and indeed "cigalike" products are basically gone from the market. Further, vaping is not a tobacco product, and this falsehood needs to be consistently exposed. Indeed, many Vapers use products with no nicotine at all.

    4. The FDA is playing the terminology game to throw vaping in the same bureaucratic bag as smoking as a strategy. They are attempting to pass regulations on vaping that would not stand on it's own merits, simply by tarring (pun intended) us with the long history of tobacco smoking harm.

    5. The solid research on harm reduction of vaping vs. smoking needs to be put out loud and clear, and the flimsy case made by the FDA on a few small studies about the alleged "gateway" of youth from vaping to tobacco needs to be exposed as the nonsense it is. The facts when held to reasonable scrutiny, are clearly on the vaping side.

    6. The "Big Brother", "Nanny State" direction of over-reaching and suffocating regulation being pursued by the FDA needs to be called out for what it is. President Trump is strongly on record as being against such an absurd approach to government, and he needs to be persuaded that his own FDA Commissioner is acting against the President's own agenda.

    Rant over - but seriously, it is time to organize and be heard now. If the Vaping Community remains as passive as it has to this point, they will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.

    Want to take some concrete, effective action? Below are some links to do that.

    The following is from GrimmGreen's YouTube video at:
    The new FDA press release : flavor ban : Get involved
    The Press release is below, as well as the link for leaving comments. The comment period will be opening on 3/21/18. Please utilize it. Remember to be respectful and professional. This isn't the time to call names, or say .... THE FDA ( even though were all kind of thinking it ) So stop smashing your VooPoo drag mod, and do something helpful. I have no time for or pessimism here. If you're just going to complain about how corrupt the FDA is, or talk about how no matter what we do the FDA is still going to take vaping away, then kindly leave. Get out of our way so we can change the world without you. ⇨
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  2. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Thanks for the info, @Celt1 , and I will definitely be commenting and etc. No negativity here, I try to do what I can for advocacy and posts like this make it easier. Good job, and thank you. :)

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