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ProVari: Is it Over the Hill?

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serenity21899

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You mean they light the coil, if that all you want stick with it, didn't mean to awaken you from your nap.

Call me old and boring, but the same coils I use on my ProVaris work just as well on my Turtleship, and many other mechs I own. Subohms and/or high wattage do nothing for me. It's a hobby not a sport. And really the goal here is not smoking.

I don't appreciate being attacked for vaping how I choose to, even if it's boring to others. And I certainly do not do the same to others who choose to wrap .3ohm coils and vape at 100w, or whatever.
 
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Call me old and boring, but the same coils I use on my ProVaris work just as well on my Turtleship, and many other mechs I own. Subohms and/or high wattage do nothing for me. It's a hobby not a sport. And really the goal here is not smoking.

I don't appreciate being attacked for vaping how I choose to, even if it's boring to others. And I certainly do not do the same to others who choose to wrap and .3ohm coils and vape at 100w, or whatever.

Standing ovation, SusieQ. Well stated, thank you.

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Well the Segelei 20W and the Seven22 may turn out to be great, but with the current track record of apvs from China I'm not holding my breath to see if they prove to be as reliable or durable as a provari. My bet is their reliability and durability will be on par with other $100 and up mods from China. The facts are that there is not a more reliable, durable, and accurate vv apv on the market than the provari. That's another thing these new 20w and up mods starting to hit the market from China are starting to creep up into the Provari's price range, and your DNA mods are already priced above the price of a provari, hell I paid almost $300 for my ZNA. At the end of the day what a provari does is work, every single time you push the button it works. Everytime.
 

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I thought someone said sub ohmimg is more efficient. And that same person mentioned "simple physics"

I'm not the smartest fella but I do know a little about physics; I design some kind of ballistic warheads. :)

Subohming is FAR from being more efficient. It's the complete opposite.

Simply put, the amount of vapor and the warmth comes from heat, which is a function of wattage. I assume you know that wattage = resistance x current^2. Now what happens when resistance falls below unity ( 1 )? You need exponential increase in current drawn to produce the same wattage compared to resistance above 1. Simply put, if you consider the capacity of a battery as constant, subohming is BY FAR less efficient. It's simply physics, really.

Battery aside, how do you achieve lower resistance given the same material? You increase cross sectional area which effectively means a greater mass per length. Aka you waste more power trying to heat up the same length of wire. Efficient? Not quite.

someone else also mentioned provari being fit for cartos and non-rebuildables. How silly. These babies sit on my provari and fires up real nice

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ETA: I used my nemmy to pulse fire the coil during set up. But I use this little sucker on my provari no problemo.

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So no, not really. You don't need a DNA30 or some fancy mod to get a vape that knocks you at the back of your throat. If you insist on it though, you probably aren't too good at building your rebuildables.

FYI I love my nemmy. I love my kicked mechs. I sub-ohm. It's just silly to put something down if you haven't actually owned one.

And physics. Get your physics right. Mr. Wallace from my high school back in the days would have been terribly displeased if he had seen that.


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I fought the provari "bandwagon" for a few months- ate up egos, ripped through cigalikes and tried a few mechs. Then I got an mvp2 and was FINALLY able to put down analogs. Tried a few different tanks and decided what the hell. The backup I was using for mvp2 (go to unit at the time) died and not having a backup being so new to not having analogs kind of freaked me out so instead of getting another mvp2 I wanted a mod because of the ease of battery changes. I did ALLOT of research and asked ALLOT of questions, found this forum and asked allot more questions and finally ordered a provari, apprehensively and begrudgingly because of the price point. Then when I took my first vape all apprehension went away. Out of everything I've tried and everything I've owned it was the SMOOTHEST and BEST vape I've ever had. It was worth every penny than some! The flavor from that with my aerotank was like listening to led zeppelin live with angels singing backup. I'm sold hands down for life. I have no desire to ever get into dripping or mechmods. RBAs yes but that's where it stops. Why do so much work for what in my opinion is an inferior vaping experience. What pleasure is there in blowing a huge cloud that does not improve the taste or inhalation of the product? I don't like coughing or annoying people around me. It's almost like some people I see that chase clouds only do that to compare the size clouds; which can cause bystanders to not like us as vapors. Why should we agitate the general public just to compare the size of our lungs? Did that work well for us when we smoked analogs? The mind is an amazing thing- we know that there are no carcinogens in the vape; because we vape. However; john Q public walking around with there kids don't know that all they see is a ginormous cloud bellowing out of your mouth towards there child so their first thought is going to be what? Your water vapor is harmless or your smoke is going to give my 2 year old lung cancer, COPD and emphysema?
The inhalation and vape out of a provari is seemless, tasty and more than adequate for 90 percent of vapors(I say that as a former heavy smoker of both analogs and Extra Fuentes Cigars).
At some point I know I can't inhale the ridiculous amount of vape I've gotten out of a sub ohm coil on a stingray. But when I set my provari at 3.3V with a 1.5ohm coil i know without a doubt that my first vape on a full battery is going to be just the same as my last before I need to change batteries. Smooth plentiful and tasteful- To top it off if I run over it; drop it in a pool or even bake it in the oven provape will fix it at a nominal fee(after the warranty is out) and get it back to me rather quickly from now until I'm pushing up daisies in 40 years.
That is more than adequate to me for the cost of admission

I may be wrong and you may not agree with any of my above diatribe but it's my opinion based off my personal experiences. Just today I'm sitting at a coffee shop reeding and I see 4 guys standing outside of a game trader in the same strip mall with mechs-never seen that many vapors in one place unless it was a vape shop- just blowing huge clouds and congratulating each other on cloud size as a Middle Ages couple starts walking up to the coffee shop they steer the child away from the guys and walk around the deck of the coffee shop just to avoid the child walking near the vape.
Maybe it was the zz-top style beards on their completely tatted up and pierced body's or insistence on repeatedly dropping F bomb in public that scared the Brady bunch family but my money is gonna be on the vapor that resembled that of a 4 alarm fire.
And yes I also think that the appearance, behavior, and language of said people also make us all look like tools also.
Say what you will but that sort of thing does automatically force vaping in general to be classified with that general behavior of us all also


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Never had a provari,but if we are going on build quality performance and warranty then id say the best out there would be the Odyssey vv,its built in the uk is stainless steal looks great spec wise 3-6v 25w and has a 5 year guarantee,think that says it all oh and with the right coupons and forum membership you can get the full kit for £74 including mod,tank ,drip tip,18650battery ,charger,filling tool and a plinth!

Interesting the ProVari look of the Odyssey--Since I associate the dimples with Provape.

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