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ProVari: Is it Over the Hill?
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That's awesome!...Provari love taken to epic heights ...
If we all throw away our gear and just used Provari's, strip malls around the world will finally be rid of the F-bomb dropping, ZZ Top bearded, pierced and tattooed scourge that scares our children...
Provari's are more than a decent mod...they're like...magical
I did indeed. Efficient at delivering nicotine levels.
Are you telling me a few hits off of a sub-ohm'd topper buzzing me to oblivion compared to the puff fest needed off of a standard resistance one is all in my head? People lower their nicotine levels drastically because of magic sub-ohm fairy dust? Say it ain't so!
I did indeed. But many a paragraph away from and completely out of context from "efficient," and I meant something simpler like I dunno, heating up faster, boiling water; more energy in = more energy out... use your imagination. (no wait, don't do that, it went horribly bad the first time you did)
Seems kind of simple to me, but that's okay, your about to connect the two phrases "efficient" and "physics" and bring "battery life" into it, of which was never mentioned one single time, and spin them all together harder than Bill O'Reilly on the Fox Network:
I'm not the smartest fella (naaahhhh) but I do know a little about physics; I design some kind of ballistic warheads.
Subohming is FAR from being more efficient. It's the complete opposite.
Simply put, blah blah blah blah (something about battery life and showing off coils on something other than a Provari. Why? Because NOBODY mentioned RDA/RBA's not being okay on a Provari... but there you have it...)
Will you be needing some more straws sir?
Sigh...
There is no mythical build that's going to break from reality and do the same without that coil heating up nice a quick with higher current flowing through to make it happen. I don't care what kind of coil building ninja skills thou possesses.
People can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that there is something other than blowing out weather systems with a sub-ohm.
Like I said two times now; most vapers don't know what's what until they've experienced it.
And HERE is the first time I bring up battery life; Battery life be dammed concerning this thread. You like that? You can quote me on that, I actually said that right there. (you didn't imagine it)
If you draw more current from a battery, it doesn't last as long. This was being argued somewhere? If your not cranking the wattage up on your newer APV and vape it like a Provari guess what? Same battery life. WOW! Looky how that works!
As long as we're nitpicking, I never put anything down. I've vaped a Provari plenty of times. One shows up at work sometimes, poker games... **** happens; people pop off drip tips and switch mods for a bit.
There is nothing silly about this:
Create an objective list of facts to compare the Provari's capabilities against the new generation of APV's. It doesn't stack up anymore. Across the board.
So...This begs to answer the question posed in the thread: "Is the Provari over the hill?"
Yes. Among the new generation of APV's, most certainly yes.
What has Mr. Wallace seen? The imaginary post you read and answered???
What's in the news Robin?
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Good call!!! I got the same one sans the extension cap. The 18490 batteries still last me the better part of a day! As far as the Protank goes, its a great topper, but you may or may not have air flow issues. If you do, Kanger has an air flow controller that will fix you right up! I've since upgraded to IBTankeds and dont have that issue anymore. Plus they look AMAZING!!!
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I don't need an objective list of facts. What I draw from are my experiences, as those are my personal facts, and the only ones that matter to me.
I'm going to break protocol here and probably end up shunt and wearing a Scarlet Letter for the rest of my vaping-days.
When the DNA20's came out, I ended up purchasing five different ones, all relatively high end. I'd already had my Provaris for a year (or so) and was really looking forward to this newer and better enhancement to my vaping experience. Of those five, one remains. I found it to be a good chip, but learned quickly that it was my LEAST favorite when assessing the most important aspect of the devices, that being the VAPE.
The one I kept basically serves as my "beater" mod. I find the vape to be a bit choppy (among other nitpicks), and every topper tastes and performs best on my other options. One being Provari, the other a little-known Australian mod named EPM. Those two are SMOOTH as silk, at least where MY vape preferences are concerned.
Now those DNA's are commonly referenced when speaking of "better" options. I beg to differ (hence the "shunting" potential) and have zero interest in a 30, based on my experiences with the 20. I'm sure they're GREAT ("...the FEATURES!"), but not for me.
All this being said, I'd never imply that something was "better", or "best" in any general sense. I am not everybody - I am only me. I can assess MY needs, MY preferences, and solely what's best for ME.
The Provari remains one of my two favorite vaping devices, and the two are equal in performance (for me). No objective list of facts, no features, and certainly no posts-on-a-thread could possibly change that.
Please, get what you prefer; but don't try to tell me what I should prefer. After all, I can't vape features.
I'm all set, thanks.
I'm going to break protocol here and probably end up shunt and wearing a Scarlet Letter for the rest of my vaping-days.
When the DNA20's came out, I ended up purchasing five different ones, all relatively high end. I'd already had my Provaris for a year (or so) and was really looking forward to this newer and better enhancement to my vaping experience. Of those five, one remains. I found it to be a good chip, but learned quickly that it was my LEAST favorite when assessing the most important aspect of the devices, that being the VAPE.
The one I kept basically serves as my "beater" mod. I find the vape to be a bit choppy (among other nitpicks), and every topper tastes and performs best on my other options. One being Provari, the other a little-known Australian mod named EPM. Those two are SMOOTH as silk, at least where MY vape preferences are concerned.
Now those DNA's are commonly referenced when speaking of "better" options. I beg to differ (hence the "shunting" potential) and have zero interest in a 30, based on my experiences with the 20. I'm sure they're GREAT ("...the FEATURES!"), but not for me.
All this being said, I'd never imply that something was "better", or "best" in any general sense. I am not everybody - I am only me. I can assess MY needs, MY preferences, and solely what's best for ME.
The Provari remains one of my two favorite vaping devices, and the two are equal in performance (for me). No objective list of facts, no features, and certainly no posts-on-a-thread could possibly change that.
Please, get what you prefer; but don't try to tell me what I should prefer. After all, I can't vape features.
I'm all set, thanks.
Funk Dracula, I think sir you have confused yourself with the meanings of words. While your "facts" might be so to you, they're not necessarily so to others. What your rather wordsy posts show, to me, is your decidedly narrow opinion. BTW inotfat's point about efficiency and "simple physics", which you were the one to spout off on originally, were spot on and "factually" more correct than what you tried to potray in your original provari smackdown post in this thread.
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Good old fashion reliability and performance never goes over the hill A Provari is a solid proven performer backed up by great service
Thats more than I can say about a lot of vape gear I own! A Provari and a KFL+ are a killer combination
Thats more than I can say about a lot of vape gear I own! A Provari and a KFL+ are a killer combination
I suppose if one is willing to start at 4 volts and go up from there, the DNA variations and clones are of interest. I want control below 4 volts, as that is where my sweet spots are with my devices, using 1.5 ohm and higher coils. From my perspective, the Provari is still the best overall device to get and maintain that control.
I originally thought they were overpriced and overhyped. I developed a longing for one after trying many other combinations and watching the damn thing keep working for most everyone I know who has one.
I am actually waiting for the next Provari version to draw the crowd who loves variable wattage and sub ohm setups, so I can get a version 2 used at a good price. I will likely enjoy it as I climb over the hill strewn with broken VV/VW alternatives.
I originally thought they were overpriced and overhyped. I developed a longing for one after trying many other combinations and watching the damn thing keep working for most everyone I know who has one.
I am actually waiting for the next Provari version to draw the crowd who loves variable wattage and sub ohm setups, so I can get a version 2 used at a good price. I will likely enjoy it as I climb over the hill strewn with broken VV/VW alternatives.
Sure, why not? I've been in and around the audio industry since long before the advent of microprocessor-controlled devices.All these mentions of SM57s and audio gear... sooooo not relevant you guys!
Do some of you really want to take me into audio engineering territory? I happen to know a thing or two about that.
Spent years doing warranty repairs on McIntosh, Studer, Revox, Bang & Olufsen, Sony, Pioneer, etc. I was in the first training class in the US held by Sony on repairing CD players, at one point I was one of three people west of the Mississippi factory authorized to repair them.
Over the last few years I've basically only worked on stuff for my own home studio, but have had fairly good results.
If you want, we can do this on a thread over at Gearslutz.
Sure, why not? I've been in and around the audio industry since long before the advent of microprocessor-controlled devices.
Spent years doing warranty repairs on McIntosh, Studer, Revox, Bang & Olufsen, Sony, Pioneer, etc. I was in the first training class in the US held by Sony on repairing CD players, at one point I was one of three people west of the Mississippi factory authorized to repair them.
Over the last few years I've basically only worked on stuff for my own home studio, but have had fairly good results.
If you want, we can do this on a thread over at Gearslutz.
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I'm an old soul- best sax money can by: Selmer Mark VI- yes I have one stopped making them in the 60's
Best home audio gear in my opinion Harmon Karden Citation 12.
Best mod money can by- provari
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I love my Provari and have no interest in sub ohming. Buying one is one of the best decisions I've ever made.
I agree. I could care less. As long as that person is happy with what they have. That's great. Doesn't matter to me at all.
I can only speak for myself, but I don't. One of my best friends in this world dived into the Blu world, just today actually.
I said, "Awesome! I hope it works for you." And I meant that as sincerely as any words I've ever spoken my life. She's very important to me.
Hahahaha no I don't I only know of the clown called Bobo-
Seriously though it is cool looking
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I hear ya;yeah my finace lives her blu And at the same time not a huge fan of my provari- but she's happy and that's all that really matters
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I'm my mothers personal vape shopper, lol and she's hooked on the winders. I tried for awhile to convert her but it's useless. As long as she's happy, I'm happy.
Oh whoops! Sorry. That is SO over the hill. Let me fix that...
They're their there..... that's better.
Oh whoops! Sorry. That is SO over the hill. Let me fix that...
They're their there..... that's better.
I'm not supposed to be laughing here, am I?
Too bad. Well stated, Ms. Darling.
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