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FreakyStylie

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I'm vaping 24% so 1% sounds awfully low to me, but I'm a newbie, so there's really no telling.

24mg/ml is what you've been vaping. There would be about 1011mg/ml if it were pure nicotine. 24mg/ml would be about 2.4% nicotine solution, and 1% nicotine solution would be about 10mg/ml. Low, medium, high, etc are variable from supplier to supplier. 18mg seems to be pretty much the middle of the road, 24 seems to be pretty strong, and 36 (or 3.6%) is the max that ECF will let suppliers offer on the forum. 10mg/ml (1%) is fairly light.
 

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I'm vaping 24% so 1% sounds awfully low to me, but I'm a newbie, so there's really no telling.

Good god, I hope not... 24% would translate to 240mg and put you on the fast track to a hospital stay...

1% would be 10mg. 1000mg total to one milliliter (1ml = 1 gram), so 10mg... middlin' weak. What I think Matthis is vaping is 24mg, which would be 2.4%, and is fairly common. I vape 25mg, mostly because I DIY and it makes the math easy, lol.
 

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Most vendors list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle...0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc. Puresmoker uses a more accurate measurement by listing their juice in percentage of nic per ml. They have 5 strengths: 0.0%, 0.8%, 1.6%, 2.4% and 3.2% which correlates in mg to 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, 24mg and 32mg of nic per ml.

They don't sell 1.0% or 10mg so maybe what you have is 1.6% or 16mg.
 

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Clarity is wonderful thing. Precision even moreso.

Puresmoker lists the Berrodica, as well as their other flavors, by percentage. Nic Free (0.0%), Low (0.8%), Medium (1.6%), High (2.4%), and Fierce (3.2%). That means 0mg/ml, 8mg/ml, 16mg/ml, 24mg/ml, and 32mg/ml respectively.

They do not offer a 1.0% mix, so I'm guessing you're misreading the label or the label printing is unclear and you have the 1.6%.

"Most vendors list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle...0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc. Puresmoker uses a more accurate measurement by listing their juice in percentage of nic per ml. They have 5 strengths: 0.0%, 0.8%, 1.6%, 2.4% and 3.2% which correlates in mg to 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, 24mg and 32mg of nic per ml."

For the sake of clarity and precision, most vendors DO NOT list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle. If that were so, a 10ml bottle of 8mg nicotine liquid would be labeled as 80mg. Accordingly, if a bottle labeled as 8mg was indicating the milligrams of nicotine for the entire bottle, the mg/ml nicotine content of a 10ml bottle would be 0.8 mg/ml. 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc is the mg/ml (milligram per milliliter) nicotine concentration. Bottles are ALWAYS labeled with the nicotine percentage in milligrams per milliliter, whether it is 8mg or 0.8%, which are BOTH THE SAME THING. 0.8% is a 0.8% concentration of nicotine derived from pure nicotine, which is 1000mg/ml. 0.8% of 1000 is 8.

0.8% is not a "more accurate' measurement than 8mg. Both indicate the SAME concentration.

Math is a wonderful thing. It never fails.

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Most juice sellers list it as mg of nicotine (which is mg of nicotine per ml of juice)

Common (but not always) starting nicotine amounts I've seen for different smokers
(assuming vaping about the same amount as used to smoke, or maybe a bit more)
full strength cigs -> 24mg and some need 30+
light cigs -> 16-18mg and some need 24
ultralights -> 10-12mg and some need 16-18

And some people who need the higher amount only need it initially, and some stay with it
 

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I can't speak with any authority here, but I read on Puresmoker's forum awhile back that they had 1.0% samples at one point in time, when they were debuting some new flavors. It's possible your friend had a sample either from a vaping festival or it was sent to them. Or they may have once produced a 1.0% NBV e-liquid. All I know is that Berrodica is really tasty. Hope you enjoy it.
 

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Clarity is wonderful thing. Precision even moreso.

Steve I agree that clarity is a good thing and now that I have reread my original post as opposed to proofreadng it before posting it, I can see partially why you responded as you did. Had I proof read my post, I would have realized that I left out three very important words "mistakenly" and "by volume".

Puresmoker lists the Berrodica, as well as their other flavors, by percentage. Nic Free (0.0%), Low (0.8%), Medium (1.6%), High (2.4%), and Fierce (3.2%). That means 0mg/ml, 8mg/ml, 16mg/ml, 24mg/ml, and 32mg/ml respectively.

They do not offer a 1.0% mix, so I'm guessing you're misreading the label or the label printing is unclear and you have the 1.6%.

"Most vendors list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle...0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc. Puresmoker uses a more accurate measurement by listing their juice in percentage of nic per ml. They have 5 strengths: 0.0%, 0.8%, 1.6%, 2.4% and 3.2% which correlates in mg to 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, 24mg and 32mg of nic per ml."

My post should have read:[/COLOR]

Most vendors "mistakenly" list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle...0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc. Puresmoker uses a more accurate measurement by listing their juice in percentage of nic per ml "by volume". They have 5 strengths: 0.0%, 0.8%, 1.6%, 2.4% and 3.2% which correlates in mg to 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, 24mg and 32mg of nic per ml.

For the sake of clarity and precision, most vendors DO NOT list the strength of their juice by mg strength of the entire bottle. Right...they mistakenly list the juice by mg strength of the whole bottle as opposed to correctly listing it in mg/ml. Using your owm example of a 10ml bottle of 8mg, one might think that means the strength of the whole bottle of juice is 8mg when in fact what you have ia actually 80mg of nic in that 10ml bottle of juice...a lot of vapers don't know that each ml of liquid has 8mg of nic.

If that were so, a 10ml bottle of 8mg nicotine liquid would be labeled as 80mg. That would actually be accurate as to the amount of nic in that 10ml bottle if the bottle uses mg as the only designation without using mg/ml. That's why IMO the percentage route is more accurate because it tells me that the same 10ml bottle has only .8% of nic throughout the whole bottle by volume.[/COLOR]

Accordingly, if a bottle labeled as 8mg was indicating the milligrams of nicotine for the entire bottle, the mg/ml nicotine content of a 10ml bottle would be 0.8 mg/ml. 0mg, 8mg, 16mg, etc is the mg/ml (milligram per milliliter) nicotine concentration. Bottles are ALWAYS labeled with the nicotine percentage in milligrams per milliliter, [COLOR="red[FONT="Arial"]"](No, they aren't)[/FONT]
whether it is 8mg or 0.8%, which are BOTH THE SAME THING. 8mg and .8% are the same in that a 10ml bottle of each represents 80mg of nic, but they're not the same if the only designation listed is mg and not mg/ml, which most vendors DON'T USE. If mg alone is the only designation used, I think its misleading whereas using % you know (or will think) that no matter how much liquid is in this bottle (10-1000ml), there is only .8% of nic in it and if you use 8mg/ml you know or (will think) that for every ml of juice, theres 8mg of nic. .

0.8% is a 0.8% concentration of nicotine derived from pure nicotine, which is 1000mg/ml. 0.8% of 1000 is 8.

0.8% is not a "more accurate' measurement than 8mg. Both indicate the SAME concentration. Yes it is if mg/ml is not used.

Math is a wonderful thing. It never fails. Math is a wonderful thing. It never fails. Math is a wonderful thing, but it is not my friend. Neither is "someone" who tries to make themself look good by making me look bad. LOL

Steve


Hope my new postings give you the clarity and precision that you require. I can't promise that I'll be more clear next time, but at least I'll try and proofread. :)
 
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