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Brian S.

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I have been smoking a Kissbox for a couple of months but recently switched to the Puresmoker penstyle with the 4 hole atomizer. The reason for the switch was that I needed to replace three of my Kissbox batteries and an atomizer and decided to try something new.

I was very impressed with the quality of the 4 hole atomizer. The heating element had that same cat's eye look as the premium brands. The vapor produced is excellent, at least as good as my Kissbox. After two weeks I have had no atomizer issues and it still smokes as strong as when I got it.

Battery life is good. I am a heavy smoker and a battery will last most of the day. This won't last forever though as experience has taught me that they weaken over time. Charge time is 4 to 5 hours.

It took a bit of getting used to not having the Kissbox switch but I don't miss it any more. Smoking it takes a bit of getting used to as too light a draw won't produce much vapor and neither will too heavy a draw. Once I got it right I was very happy with the vapor produced.

Overall I have been very satisfied with my purchase and feel that I got a good value for the price.

Brian
 

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I've only just started e-smoking (yesterday) but have a feeling this is going to become a bit of a hobby. I'm using an NJOY pen-style right now, with Med. Vanilla, love it. Was just looking at puresmoker, all the flavors!! I foresee another penstyle in my future...

When you fill your own cartridges with juice, how many drops (I guess) do you use?
 

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I've only just started e-smoking (yesterday) but have a feeling this is going to become a bit of a hobby. I'm using an NJOY pen-style right now, with Med. Vanilla, love it. Was just looking at puresmoker, all the flavors!! I foresee another penstyle in my future...

When you fill your own cartridges with juice, how many drops (I guess) do you use?

I only direct drip my penstyle from NJOY - it works much better that way, because the carts don't "wick" the juice to the atomizer near as well as the 901 models. I drip 2 or 3 drops of juice onto the steel wool of the atomizer. This equates to about a cig's worth of vapor.

With my 901, I just top off the cart with 2 or 3 drops when the vapor drops, or it starts to taste manky...
 

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I have to agree about the Puresmoker atomizers. Very good performance and very few problems. I am rather less happy with the battery life, though. Mine dropped exponentially, and some batteries I have (none older than 8 weeks) allow me exactly 8 minutes of vaping before they die again. They all started out pretty good (except for a couple that had problems from the start and were replaced) but, inside of 2 weeks, all dropped significantly. This however, has happened to me also with the Janty Classic. I am stasarting to think that I emanate some anti-e-cig-battery waves.....
 

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Maybe...just maybe...when we get our first ecigs, the manual doesn't stress the fact that we have to do an initial charge that is for like 10 hours....Maybe the manufacturers or suppliers should put those extra sheet of instruct that addresses the first charge of the batteries...since they come charged and the charger turns green after 4 hours...that that first charge needs to be for quit a lot longer....just a thought
 

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Oh, I charged all of my batteries for 9-10 hours the first time, and ignored the green light.... I still ignore it, when after 1 hr. it informs me that my battery is charged (yeah, right), and I leave it there for at least 4 hours, sometimes overnight. I have 10 batteries between all my e-cigs, and some days I use 6 in a day.... And I am not even permanently vaping, either.... I find this battery issue very frustrating, really. I am pretty good with atomizers, though. I had one (congenitally weak) die on me with the JC juice. Other than that, my other aotmizers are still doing pretty well, some after 8 weeks.
 

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I've only just started e-smoking (yesterday) but have a feeling this is going to become a bit of a hobby. I'm using an NJOY pen-style right now, with Med. Vanilla, love it. Was just looking at puresmoker, all the flavors!! I foresee another penstyle in my future...

When you fill your own cartridges with juice, how many drops (I guess) do you use?

I had an Njoy and sent it back because the price of the carts were outragous. I found it to be a good product but Puresmoker's penstyle is just as good at half the price. I don't fill the cartridge. I add 2 drops of juice directly to the atomizer and reinsert the cart. Penstyle carts don't get the juce to the atomizer fast enough. At the first hint of a plastic taste I add a couple of more drops. The same cart can be used for several days this way because it never empties out. It tends to absorb any excess liquid and makes sure the atomizer never runs dry.

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Oh, I charged all of my batteries for 9-10 hours the first time, and ignored the green light.... I still ignore it, when after 1 hr. it informs me that my battery is charged (yeah, right), and I leave it there for at least 4 hours, sometimes overnight. I have 10 batteries between all my e-cigs, and some days I use 6 in a day.... And I am not even permanently vaping, either.... I find this battery issue very frustrating, really. I am pretty good with atomizers, though. I had one (congenitally weak) die on me with the JC juice. Other than that, my other aotmizers are still doing pretty well, some after 8 weeks.


You must be doing something differently or just be very unlucky. The only issue I have had with batteries is my Janty batteries are wore out and smoke production goes way down after a couple of hours. I was cycling through 4 batteries a day. New batteries last me all day but I know they will need replacing after a month or so. That is why I made the switch to Puresmoker. If I'm going to have to replace batteries and atomizers regularly, might as well use a brand that is less expensive.

JC juice killed several of my atomizers also. Been using e-cig.com carts and dripping with Jane's juice and have had no failures since.

Brian
 

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Has anyone found a way to "deep discharge" the batteries? Something that gets every last bit of charge out of them? That might help in battery maintenance. I was gonna try making some kind of rig to hook them up to a little motor, or some flashlight bulbs to really drop the output before recharging. I usually stick mine on before they flash to indicate low charge cuz the vapor can get really poor.

Maybe...just maybe...when we get our first ecigs, the manual doesn't stress the fact that we have to do an initial charge that is for like 10 hours....Maybe the manufacturers or suppliers should put those extra sheet of instruct that addresses the first charge of the batteries...since they come charged and the charger turns green after 4 hours...that that first charge needs to be for quit a lot longer....just a thought
 

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Somewhere in this forum I read that these batteries do not have memory, and it does not matter to fully discharge them before recharging them. I personally don't know about this, and perhaps your idea would help. So far, I do like e-smoking enough, love the various flavors, and get along reasonably well with atomizers. If I could only find a way to have my batteries survive a longer time, I'd be really happy. But, clearly, not everyone is having this problem, which means that may also get luckier in the near future....
 

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the little green light is telling the truth.. when it says charged its charged..

and if someone does find a way to deep discharge a lithium cell they will have one dead cell..running them flat destroyed them..

i would say a bit more about lithium batteries but having said it all a few dozen times before without the slightest effect there aint much point... he he

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Trog, I was being ironic when I commented "yeah, right" to my geeen light telling me that my battery was charged.... I noticed that the light turns green earlier and earlier as my battery ages (I can almost see a daily decline). I leave it there for 4 hours to go through the motions, but I am convinced that the thing does not charge.

I know you have spoken at length about batteries (maybe it was your post where I read that there was no point in fully discharging a battery). I have considered the Screwdriver, but the description seems to imply it's mainly a device for heavy nicotine users. I am trying to go down on my nic, but I may have to give in and get one (it is very cool-looking, by the way). Every one of the customers who have posted here seem delighted with it.... I am using a penstyle and -as I said- have virtually no problem with atomizers, but I do appear to kill batteries just by existing in the same room with them.... Maybe I'll wait for the dollar to go a bit higher still, and then I may take the plunge....
 

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Update -- After a week of happy vaping trouble starts. Several of my batteries won't turn on sometimes unless I puff several times first. This is likely my fault as I drip and may have dripped too much getting juice into the switch. Smoke production also declined from great to OK. No slight on Cash as I still feel it is a good value for the money.

Anyway, I am tired of fooling with batteries so I took the plunge and ordered a Kissbox Extended with the USB cable. Right now I'm puffing on my old Kissbox while I wait on my order.

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Update -- After a week of happy vaping trouble starts. Several of my batteries won't turn on sometimes unless I puff several times first. This is likely my fault as I drip and may have dripped too much getting juice into the switch. Smoke production also declined from great to OK. No slight on Cash as I still feel it is a good value for the money.

Anyway, I am tired of fooling with batteries so I took the plunge and ordered a Kissbox Extended with the USB cable. Right now I'm puffing on my old Kissbox while I wait on my order.

Brian

Update -- After letting my Puresmoker rest a couple of days it is back in action and smoking as good as new. It puts out much more smoke than my Kissbox. Guess I dripped too much after all. I remember I had juce comming out where the atomizer and battery connected. Anyway, no worries now :thumb:

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some simple facts about e cig batteries..

first they are too small for the job they have to do.. they wear out quickly.. with heavy all day and every day use very quickly...

classic or pen style e cigs have bigger batteries than the mini type does.. they will at a rough guess live at least twice as long as the mini type..

charging is fully automatic... when the green light comes on the battery is fully charged.. job done..

how they wear out.. in simple terms they lose their capacity with each recharge.. in essence they become smaller batteries with less capacity each time they are charged..

this results in three things.. less run time.. less charge time.. and a more rapid exponential (ever increasing) wear rate as the battery capacity drops off..

now ask your self why this simple but truthful information dosnt get a sticky..

trog

ps.. this applies to all e cigs.. there is no magic "better" battery.. simply bigger ones.. more expensive e cigs dont have better batteries simply more expensive batteries..

ps.. 2.. this is a problem all sellers have to deal with.. they have differnet ways of doing this...
 
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Brian S.

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some simple facts about e cig batteries..

first they are too small for the job they have to do.. they wear out quickly.. with heavy all day and every day use very quickly...

classic or pen style e cigs have bigger batteries than the mini type does.. they will at a rough guess live at least twice as long as the mini type..

charging is fully automatic... when the green light comes on the battery is fully charged.. job done..

how they wear out.. in simple terms they lose their capacity with each recharge.. in essence they become smaller batteries with less capacity each time they are charged..

this results in three things.. less run time.. less charge time.. and a more rapid exponential (ever increasing) wear rate as the battery capacity drops off..

now ask your self why this simple but truthful information dosnt get a sticky..

trog

ps.. this applies to all e cigs.. there is no magic "better" battery.. simply bigger ones.. more expensive e cigs dont have better batteries simply more expensive batteries..

ps.. 2.. this is a problem all sellers have to deal with.. they have differnet ways of doing this...

Well I solved that problem Trog with some links from Kate. Bought and estended kissbox with the USB adapter, some new batteries for the USB and a charger. Now I don't have to use the factory batteries at all.

Brian
 

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Well I solved that problem Trog with some links from Kate. Bought and estended kissbox with the USB adapter, some new batteries for the USB and a charger. Now I don't have to use the factory batteries at all.

Do you know if this thing restricts the current to 500mA? I'm curious as to whether these things could potentially kill a computer.
 

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the little green light is telling the truth.. when it says charged its charged..

charging is fully automatic... when the green light comes on the battery is fully charged.. job done..

It's amazing the faith you have in those little green lights, Trog. And amazing how you totally ignore anyone who tells you they have experienced anything else.

Just the other week I got two brand new mini-cig batteries. I decided to test your magic little light. I really should have filmed it, because it couldn't have been a better demonstration of how wrong you are about this.

I put the first one on the charger, pulled it off when the light turned green after 1 hour,and replacedit with the second. I started using the first battery. It seemed to work ok, but it only lasted one hour.

The green light had already turned green on the other one, so I swapped them. Again, it only lasted one hour, and the first one was already green again on the charger.

That's how it went all night, one hour charging, one hour use.

At the end of the night, I left the first battery on the charger overnight, giving it the reccommended 8 hours, and swapped them in the morning.

Now, the first battery was performing lots better than the day before; although I thought it was working good on the one hour charges, a fully charged battery worked much better than it had been and lasted a good 4 hours. I waited until the second had also charged for 8 hours and it also performed better and lasted about 3 hours.

Those lights are not always right, and especially on the first charge they should be ignored. Otherwise you are going to have undercharged batteries, and are setting yourself up for a dissapointing experience.

For gods sake, Trog, there's not one single part of any of this technology which always works, why can't you accept that about the charger lights?

My advice is to always give it the usual 8 hours for the first charge, and about 3-4 hours for recharging.
 
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