Thanks for the initial feedback, guys. In case it wasn't clear in my previous post, when I talk about less flavor with the LR atty I mean less flavor in the LR vs a standard Janty atty FOR THE SAME LIQUID. When I used the standard Janty atty with a PTB cart I got good vapor, heavy flavor, but not much TH. When I switched the same exact cart over to the LR
atty vapor is good but the flavor content is noticeably less
and the TH was too strong.
Now, in terms of PG vs VG is there a consensus at all in terms of which type is better suited for the LR? Not necessarily in terms of flavor but in terms of a milder TH?? And, thanks for mentioning the shorter hits, Stu. I tried that before and it makes a lot of sense in theory but I was still getting a pretty strong burn - at least, I was on the first go around.
After the initial trial last week, I actually left the LR atty's alone for a few days but after my post earlier today I popped on the ol' LR this afternoon and for some gol-dang reason the experience was much more positive - more taste and less burning. So, who knows? Maybe I'm just insane at this point
TD
Did you drip or use a cart? The LRs were not intended to be used with carts.
Some useful data to explain what is going on:
- the LR 1.5 Ohms @ 3.7V = 9.1 watts;
- stock 2.25 Ohms @ 3.7V = 6 watts
- stock 2.25 Ohms @ 5V = 11 watts;
- SLBs 3.25 Ohms @ 3.7V = 4.2 watts;
- SLBs 3.25 Ohms @ 5V = 7.7 watts;
- SLBs 3.25 Ohms @ 6V = 11.1 watts;
- SLBs 3.25 Ohms @ 7V = 15.1 watts;
- HV 4.5 Ohms @ 6V = 8 watts;
- HV 4.5 Ohms @ 7V = 10.8 watts;
- HV 4.5 Ohms @ 7.4V = 12.1 watts;
- HV 4.5 Ohms @ 8.4V = 15.7 watts;
- XHV 5.2 Ohms @ 7V = 9.8 watts;
- XHV 5.2 Ohms @ 7.4V = 10.9 watts; and
- XHV 5.2 Ohms @ 8.4V = 15.7 watts
So what does all this mean you might ask? Well there is a sweet spot in vaping. The sweet spot is said to be between 7 and 12 watts of power. There seems to be a move back down towards 3.7V single cell use. My personal sweet spot si around 7 watts, which I can achieve fairly easily with various atty/voltage combinations.
My biggest device is a regulated 5V box mod, which produces 4.7 volts under load. I use that device for my SLBs and 801s. The 801s on that device outshine the LR hands down for flavour, vapour and TH.
The LR atty runs cooler on the eGo battery at 3.1V that is what all 3.7V JoyE devices/batts produce. The LR on my 3.7V box mod runs way hotter supplied from a 14500 batt. I don't like using my eGo batts $30 a pop, compared to a fraction of the cost for the 14500.
As mods were created, so were people creative. Attys were used at various voltages and found to provide extra vapour and TH. There was a cost asso iated with that. Premature atty failure.
It was also said that VG produces more vapour, so folks started to mess with that as well up to 20/80 PG/VG mix. The cost of more vapour, flavour.
Folks state their carts don't flow well ect... then came those mods. te culprit VG once again.
How do we cure proper flow, good vapour an decent TH. A mix that is poperly balanced let's say at, 80/20 PG/VG with as little 1% distilled water, not only flows well produces more vapour, without masking the flavour.
Want more TH, use a higher mg liquid or add a little PGA to your liquid less that 1% provides more than adequate results, without changing the flavour.
Are you smoking or chewing bubble gum. I have heard of flavours as high as 25-30%. They are usually associated with mixes with excessive amounts of VG. I vape flavoured tobacco at a rate of 12-18% mostly 15%. But mind you this is all subjective as well. Heavily flavoured juices also reduce vapour, especially certain flavours. They clogg attys, coat coils etc... further reducing the vaping experience. The latter is further compounded by using "hotter" atties, or like Tim would say "more power".
Just purchased a LV atty for my eGo and also one HV, both 510s from Nhaler. There were two types of HV and to tell the truth I don't know which one I bought .. don't understand the difference. Thing is, I think I am going to need to change to VG or go back to analogs. I am beginning to think that it is the PG that is giving me MEGA DRY MOUTH .. but is your post saying that LV isn't as good with VG ??
I AM SO CONFUSED. LV, HV, VG, PG, 510, 910 ETC ETC. All I know for SURE is that I haven't smoked in a year now .. I hope I can find my "sweet spot." ONE OTHER THING .. In the beginning, first 6-8 months, I didn't have any problems with dry mouth and I was using PG .. Maybe it is the maker that is giving me problems. I hope not because theirs is the best flavor that I have found..
Diane
PS.. I see we are BOTH standing on our heads.
PG is a humectant, you need to drink lots of fluids read water. Gargle with scope prior to going to bed and that helps like you wouldn't believe, followed by a glass of water. My kidneys tell me when I don't drink enough, so does my urine.
Nhaler sells two different types of Low Resistance atomizers. One measures 1.5 ohms, the other 1.618 (I think) ohms. The difference is basically negligible. The latter is a gimmick-y thing to 'compliment' the wooden mod's physics. They are both well below the standard 510 atomizer's resistance and will give that 'high voltage' feel to 3.7 volt vaping.
as afr as I know the LRs are 1.5 Ohms, just like you will get the odd 2.5 Ohms stock atty. For higher resistance atties, use 'em in different devices as previously mentioned. I vape my menthols on a stock 510 batt with an SLB 3.7 Ohm atty. That juice and atty combo, does not work well on anything but my stock batts. I will miss that atty when it dies. No other atty gives me so much satisfaction with my menthol juice.
As far as liquids, we are at about the same place vaping-wise... a year for me in about a month. I have noticed that it is very important to switch off on flavors, and in my case PG and VG, in order to keep a pleasant vaping experience. For a long time I tried to find "my brand" of e-liquid, like I did with analogs. For me, it turns out I don't have one. It's important that I have four or five go to flavors (mainly tobacco and coffee for me) and that I switch between PG and VG, sometimes combining both. I have no idea why this is but I'm convinced that there is no single flavor that will work for me day in and day out.
Hope this helps...
I have my main vapes, but I vape about 4-5 different flavours/day, dependant on time of day and mood.
My main daily vape is 60% RY4 mixed with 40% 555 @24mg. If I have a sweet tooth that day RY4.
I also like a good shot of flue cured or DK TAB when I need that analog feeling. 1 drop of marshmallow in 10ml, takes away the dryness of tobacco flavours without masking the taste.
In the evening, seevral cigar concoctions I came up with. Or Irish cream after supper (prior to the evening).
Hope all this was helpful.
PS: If I need a fix, that is what the HV device is for. My main PVs are the SD and the eGo, with the stick for a calmer vape fitted with an 801 atty in the evenings. Once you have tuned your needs, to your liquids, to your devices, it is pure heaven. Heck it's almost orgasmic.
